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equalizer
Sep 20th, 2006, 1:46 PM
I have a question for the computer geeks. Recently someone stole Smokes password. Propbably a lucky guess because he said he made it to easy. My question is is there a program or something that can guess or decipher peoples passwords within a reasonable time frame. Is it even possible with all the combinations possible for creating passwords.

lycanox
Sep 20th, 2006, 2:11 PM
There are called key-loggers.

They log every hit on the keyboard of your computer and sends them to an address somewhere else.
They are mostly located on public computers like in Internet cafes or schools.
But they can also be spread like an virus or spy ware.

I ain't a geek, but it cant be empathized enough to check for those programs regularly, especially on public computers.

Offcource like viruses, they aren't download able in a way in witch you can use them against others, If you want one, you have to program it yourself.

DaSoviet
Sep 21st, 2006, 5:32 AM
Key loggers a possibility as Lycanox said. Ask smoke if he downloaded anything recently and when he tried to run it, it didn't work. The only other thing I can think of is SQL.

Skynet12
Sep 21st, 2006, 7:19 AM
Last time i use a dirty password! :eek:

Smoke
Sep 21st, 2006, 8:55 AM
nah my pc would detect a logger.. i used to mess around with them o id know too, i think it was a lucky guess. but uh yeah you can easily get passwords for ne thing.

Skynet12
Sep 22nd, 2006, 7:40 AM
Well something did it...has your password been used without your concent often?

Einstein700
Sep 22nd, 2006, 9:41 AM
not just key loggers but if its a v. simple password it may of been brute forced by a program that guesses obvious passwords and dictonary words. I have a server that when i enter a new password will be rejected if it fails a dictonary attack and will rate the strength of the password. Check out 'brutus'

http://www.hoobie.net/brutus/

have fun!

Smoke
Sep 22nd, 2006, 9:45 AM
yeah those things are strong used em for allot of stuff. Cain and able is good too.

laz said he would get the password back, but i have a feeling i know who might have changed it ... lol

Skynet12
Sep 22nd, 2006, 12:50 PM
My passwords not worked several times- it was 72, then 48, then assymetric-but it just kept dying. (remember skynet13?) In the end, me and laz managed to gove me one which stayed to this day! Dont worry, smoke- im sure hell think of something!

Justice
Sep 26th, 2006, 4:37 AM
Could be the CIA hacked smokes account as a warning to him.

GCHQ :gtfo:

Skynet12
Sep 26th, 2006, 7:28 AM
Why would they do that? Smoke- wat u been doin, mate?

lazserus
Sep 26th, 2006, 12:20 PM
yeah those things are strong used em for allot of stuff. Cain and able is good too.

laz said he would get the password back, but i have a feeling i know who might have changed it ... lol
I can't retrieve your password because it is encrypted in the SQL database. I can change the password for you and then you login and change it manually to something more secure.

stewey
Sep 26th, 2006, 1:51 PM
Best password is alphanumeric. For example, "s98a7w6ert6"

The number of guesses required to break a password of n digits with a possibility of x different digits (i.e. a-z, 0-9) is more than x^n (it is x^n if they only try passwords of length n, but if they do all up to that it is approximlately (x^2n)/2 ).

In a non-case sensitive password system, with valid characters being a-z and 0-9, if you were to have a 10 digit password, it would take 36^10 tries, or 3656158440062976 tries. If it was case sensitive, it'd be 62^10, which is an even bigger number. In other words, it probably won't get cracked.

Hell, even 6 digits alphanumeric would be over 2 billion possibilities.

lycanox
Sep 26th, 2006, 2:49 PM
The problem with alphanumeric passwords is that they are very hard to remember.

Most people would be forced to write them down or use other codes like phone numbers or bank number, Which would be an security breach.

Skynet12
Sep 27th, 2006, 4:36 AM
Yes-i once had assymetric, that was like shitting gold typing that in!

Smoke
Sep 27th, 2006, 12:13 PM
I can't retrieve your password because it is encrypted in the SQL database. I can change the password for you and then you login and change it manually to something more secure.
ok that would work for me...............