MaximumPain
Nov 14th, 2006, 8:14 PM
I was wondering about the science of second hand smoke? What is the real research about the effect on nonsmokers?
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Apollo
Dec 16th, 2006, 11:43 AM
From the American Lung Association:
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422
Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.
Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen)
Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke. Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide.
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700-69,600 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.
A study found that nonsmokers exposed to environmental smoke were 25 percent more likely to have coronary heart diseases compared to nonsmokers not exposed to smoke.
Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of ETS in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.
Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada. Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.
Currently, 14 states including California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, have already passed strong smoke-free air laws.
As of 2005, nine smoke-free states prohibit smoking in almost all workplaces, including restaurants and bars (CA, CT, DE, ME, MA, NY, RI, VT and WA)
Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.
Secondhand smoke exposure may cause buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits per year. Secondhand smoke can also aggravate symptoms in 400,000 to 1,000,000 children with asthma.
In the United States, 21 million, or 35 percent of, children live in homes where residents or visitors smoke in the home on a regular basis.14 Approximately 50-75 percent of children in the United States have detectable levels of cotinine, the breakdown product of nicotine in the blood.
New research indicates that private research conducted by cigarette company Philip Morris in the 1980s showed that secondhand smoke was highly toxic, yet the company suppressed the finding during the next two decades.
The current Surgeon General's Report concluded that scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to second hand smoke. Short exposures to second hand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability, potentially increasing the risk of heart attack.
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422
Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.
Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen)
Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke. Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide.
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700-69,600 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.
A study found that nonsmokers exposed to environmental smoke were 25 percent more likely to have coronary heart diseases compared to nonsmokers not exposed to smoke.
Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of ETS in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.
Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada. Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.
Currently, 14 states including California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, have already passed strong smoke-free air laws.
As of 2005, nine smoke-free states prohibit smoking in almost all workplaces, including restaurants and bars (CA, CT, DE, ME, MA, NY, RI, VT and WA)
Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.
Secondhand smoke exposure may cause buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits per year. Secondhand smoke can also aggravate symptoms in 400,000 to 1,000,000 children with asthma.
In the United States, 21 million, or 35 percent of, children live in homes where residents or visitors smoke in the home on a regular basis.14 Approximately 50-75 percent of children in the United States have detectable levels of cotinine, the breakdown product of nicotine in the blood.
New research indicates that private research conducted by cigarette company Philip Morris in the 1980s showed that secondhand smoke was highly toxic, yet the company suppressed the finding during the next two decades.
The current Surgeon General's Report concluded that scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to second hand smoke. Short exposures to second hand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability, potentially increasing the risk of heart attack.
MaximumPain
Dec 26th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Thanks for the reply Apollo I had almost forgot about this post.
Based on that information smoking has a huge cost on our society even for the non-smokers.
Based on that information smoking has a huge cost on our society even for the non-smokers.
TC
Dec 27th, 2006, 5:19 AM
*cough..but this cigar..*cough...tastes sooooo good with a little cognac..
Demonskates
Dec 27th, 2006, 4:23 PM
Non-smokers would bitch alot less if it were second hand pot smoke I bet. :headbang:
donniedarko
Dec 29th, 2006, 1:13 AM
Nope, I bitch just the same. Why not use this?
http://www.marijuanavaporizer.com/
No tar, just the good stuff you want. Funny that.
http://www.marijuanavaporizer.com/
No tar, just the good stuff you want. Funny that.
Demonskates
Dec 29th, 2006, 10:35 AM
yeah,vaporizors are cool.Just expensive genereally.and alot of them you need a place to plug them in.the portable pocket models are pricey.If erb wasnt so expensive,id just cook with it.its much better that way,and no smoking is involved.
A friend of mine has one,and ill tell you,a bag lasts twice as long when u use a vaporizor.
A friend of mine has one,and ill tell you,a bag lasts twice as long when u use a vaporizor.
Demonskates
Dec 29th, 2006, 6:39 PM
which brings up another point now that i think of it,How do non smokers consider themselvs non smokers,when every non smoker i know smokes pot?Im sure not all non smokers do,but all of the ones i know do.no grits,but they sure dont pass up a bong.wierd.
Traveler
Dec 31st, 2006, 10:26 PM
Ordinary wood smoke is even worse because it contains the resins in the wood while tobacco is just a leaf.
The anti smoking lobby is being pushed because there is so much extra government revenue to be made out of it.
But don’t worry, Once this source of revenue dries up fire wood will be classified as a prohibitive substance and controlled with a tax added just in time for winter.
The anti smoking lobby is being pushed because there is so much extra government revenue to be made out of it.
But don’t worry, Once this source of revenue dries up fire wood will be classified as a prohibitive substance and controlled with a tax added just in time for winter.
DontBeAfraid
Dec 31st, 2006, 10:58 PM
Most people dont make a habit of inhaling wood smoke traveler. It can also be said that wood smoke is not addictive.
Traveler
Jan 1st, 2007, 12:46 AM
No, it may not be addictive, but for many it is an essential item for winter and as such is a guaranteed revenue earner.
That is what the introduction of carbon tax is all about. You didn’t think that it was just for industry did you?
That is what the introduction of carbon tax is all about. You didn’t think that it was just for industry did you?
DontBeAfraid
Jan 1st, 2007, 1:02 AM
I dont care about it. It IS in fact bad for the environment, however its tax is not entirely relatable to a smoking tax which is why I posted.
Traveler
Jan 1st, 2007, 4:17 AM
The health industry does not care if you get sick from tobacco use. The sicker you are the more money they can make out of you. The last thing that they want is a super healthy population.
The whole subject is nothing more than an opportunity for a cash grab.
I mean come on, What is the point of telling all the old folks in the old age home that they can’t smoke anymore. Is there going to be any shortage of other old folks wanting to take their place when they have gone.
IF the tobacco hadn’t killed them by then, then what is the point in making their lives miserable and taking away one of the only vices they had left to them. Ones that they had partaken of all their lives.
The whole subject is nothing more than an opportunity for a cash grab.
I mean come on, What is the point of telling all the old folks in the old age home that they can’t smoke anymore. Is there going to be any shortage of other old folks wanting to take their place when they have gone.
IF the tobacco hadn’t killed them by then, then what is the point in making their lives miserable and taking away one of the only vices they had left to them. Ones that they had partaken of all their lives.
MaximumPain
Jan 1st, 2007, 6:13 AM
The health industry does not care if you get sick from tobacco use. The sicker you are the more money they can make out of you. The last thing that they want is a super healthy population.
The whole subject is nothing more than an opportunity for a cash grab.
I mean come on, What is the point of telling all the old folks in the old age home that they can’t smoke anymore. Is there going to be any shortage of other old folks wanting to take their place when they have gone.
IF the tobacco hadn’t killed them by then, then what is the point in making their lives miserable and taking away one of the only vices they had left to them. Ones that they had partaken of all their lives.
No the point is that me and my children dont need to breath in unnessary poisons when those who chose to inhale them can do so elseware.
As for the health care industry they will never have a shortage of customers.
I do agree however that if one wants to smoke than by all means smoke just dont harm anyone else.
The whole subject is nothing more than an opportunity for a cash grab.
I mean come on, What is the point of telling all the old folks in the old age home that they can’t smoke anymore. Is there going to be any shortage of other old folks wanting to take their place when they have gone.
IF the tobacco hadn’t killed them by then, then what is the point in making their lives miserable and taking away one of the only vices they had left to them. Ones that they had partaken of all their lives.
No the point is that me and my children dont need to breath in unnessary poisons when those who chose to inhale them can do so elseware.
As for the health care industry they will never have a shortage of customers.
I do agree however that if one wants to smoke than by all means smoke just dont harm anyone else.
TC
Jan 1st, 2007, 6:16 AM
Well I smoke, but I do it outside, I also live in a country where its illegal to smoke anywhere inside a public building or work place, I even make a point of not being near others when I do smoke. Its a vice like anything else, pot, booze, pills,computers....for me its all the same.... and as long as I don't infringe on other peoples space.... its nice to come home from work, prop my feet up on the front porch, and watch the sun go down with a nice cigar. (and a little cognac of course)
Protostar
Jan 1st, 2007, 8:41 AM
As far as I know 2nd had smoke does not show up in your blood stream or urine
<specific gravity> ya spin the urine and the weight of the tar and nicotine and other toxins in youyr system is your specific gravity. Anyhoo, it is breathed into your lungs after the tar and nicotine went into someone elses lungs. You get whats left and your lungs takes the hit, not your blood stream.
pass the cognac....Short
pass the bong D... hehehe
<specific gravity> ya spin the urine and the weight of the tar and nicotine and other toxins in youyr system is your specific gravity. Anyhoo, it is breathed into your lungs after the tar and nicotine went into someone elses lungs. You get whats left and your lungs takes the hit, not your blood stream.
pass the cognac....Short
pass the bong D... hehehe
Sammy56
Jan 1st, 2007, 3:21 PM
ya spin the urine and the weight of the tar and nicotine and other toxins in your system is your specific gravity. Protostar, what you are saying isn't making much sense here. Specific gravity is the density of a substance divided by the density of water. What does that have to do with second hand smoke showing up in places other than your lungs?
Protostar
Jan 1st, 2007, 6:07 PM
Spec Gravity of your urine has a weight if there is tar and nicotine in it.
If there is no tar and nicotine in it, then it wouldn't weigh as much. <particle weight> second hand smoke does not show up in your urine/blood.
That makes perfect sense to me since it's my job.
If there is no tar and nicotine in it, then it wouldn't weigh as much. <particle weight> second hand smoke does not show up in your urine/blood.
That makes perfect sense to me since it's my job.
Cartesiantheater
Jan 1st, 2007, 6:10 PM
Spec Gravity of your urine has a weight if there is tar and nicotine in it.
If there is no tar and nicotine in it, then it wouldn't weigh as much. <particle weight> second hand smoke does not show up in your urine/blood.
That makes perfect sense to me since it's my job.
ahhh... I was a little lost there too... :yikes:
If there is no tar and nicotine in it, then it wouldn't weigh as much. <particle weight> second hand smoke does not show up in your urine/blood.
That makes perfect sense to me since it's my job.
ahhh... I was a little lost there too... :yikes:
jeffweeder
Jan 2nd, 2007, 2:35 AM
Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.
So would car exaust be a much worse thing.....in the same way?
So would car exaust be a much worse thing.....in the same way?
MaximumPain
Jan 2nd, 2007, 4:26 AM
Car exhaust is a poison as well it contains carbon monoxide as well as some other chemicals. Unfortunately our infrastructure is set up so that most of us need one to even survive if we want to keep our job go to the grocery store ect. Perhaps our descendants will be more enlightened and chose to have transportation that is not so polluting.
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