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krakatoa
Nov 25th, 2006, 1:37 PM
former KGB, spy turned Kremlin critic after officials determined he was poisoned, by a rare radioactive substance.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15863307/
just in case it's not working
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
What do you think???
Krakatoa.
Cornish Maid
Nov 25th, 2006, 2:51 PM
Here's a quote from Alexander Litvinenko on his deathbed.
I would like to thank many people. My doctors, nurses and hospital staff who are doing all they can for me; the British police who are pursuing my case with rigour and proffessionalism and are watching over me and my family.
I would like to thank the British government for taking me under their care. I am honoured to be a British citizen.
I would like to thank the British public for their messages of support and for the interest they have shown in my plight.
I thank my wife Marina, who has stood by me. My love for her and my son has no bounds.
But as I lie here I can distinctly hear the beating of wings of the angel of death. I may be able to give him the slip but I have to say my legs do not run as fast as I would like.
I think, therefore, that this may be the time to say one or two things to the person responsible for my present condition.
You may succeed in silencing me but that silence comes at a price. You have shown yourself to be barbaric and ruthless as your most hostile critics have claimed.
You have shown yourself to have no respect for life, liberty or any civilised value. You have shown yourself to be unworthy of your office, to be unworthy of the trust of civilised men and women.
Yiu may succeed in silencing one man but the howl of protest from around the world will reverbarate, Mr Putin, in your ears for the rest of your life.
May God forgive you for what you have done, not only to me but to beloved Russia and its people.
Alexander died from poisoning by polonium 210, a radioactive element
The Daily Mail
lycanox
Nov 25th, 2006, 3:07 PM
To quote my post.. Something smells funny around this, and it ain't the sushi.
This is why i doubt the Russian government is behind this.
The poison took place in an sushi bar, Some sushi meals are deathly if they are improper prepared. Why would someone goes through all these problems and use such an fancy poison? All they had to do to kill him was giving him some poorly prepared sushi and he would became only one of the sushi death statistics, None would suspect an murder. I believe that the KGB is smart enough to think of this.
Unless offcource the murders deliberately wanted to blame the Russian government.
Cornish Maid
Nov 25th, 2006, 6:17 PM
It is very unlikely that we will find out who performed this very professional hit. In Russia political murders are virtually never solved.
For example no one has ever found out who gunned down the fearless journalist Anna Politkovskaya
When journalist Ann Leslie met her she had already survived one poison attempt, but remained dedicated to exposing Putin's brutal conduct of the Chechen war. Litvinenko had been investigating her murder.
Another one was Galina Starovoitova. She told Ann they would kill her one day and lo and behold, she was found murdered at the bottom of a stairwell.
If Putin didn't order the assassination of Litvinenko, who did?
It could be members of the siloviki, his shadowy power network. It could be a contract killing ordered by members of the vast, ruthless Russian business mafia, which has never been adverse to a bit of murder-and perhaps the former spy had something on them.
The Daily Mail
Perfectionist
Nov 25th, 2006, 6:38 PM
Hmmmm ..... if they wanted to get rid of him ..... why didn't they just make it quick and look like a motor accident or a suicide or something ??
Why use an ultra rare poison which would kill him slowly and give him plenty of time to kick up a big fuss ??
Putin's KGB is pretty dumb !! :dork:
shawnee
Nov 25th, 2006, 10:34 PM
And we let those bastards into WTO; Bush's "best friend with a soul" has his fingerprints all over this incident. Radioactive isotope; yeah, like the KGB are gonna get their hands on that and use it without permission from higher up. What stinkin' thugs. They've already used their oil as a bully bat,done everything they could to start a war in Georgia and are now using oil as a weapon there. Europe better get their head out of their collective asses, that's all I have to say. Putin's no more than the Russian equivalent of a 'Napoleon' run amuck. Organized crime runs the nation, aids is rampant, alcololism is inbred in their culture, the ruthless KGB mentality is back; they've evolved backward with Putin's nostalgic blessing into the ol' ussr. I don't know of a more screwed up country, other than Bangladesh and Iraq.
Let them into the WTO and their bully-boy, nationalistic, paranoid tactics will follow. Oil is what gives them their balls right now. I wish we'd get our act together and make it a national priority to go solar, fusion, wind-power, hell even coal; anything to make us less reliant on ANY nation for fuel.
What an ungodly mess; it's getting so I don't even want to hear the news anymore. I haven't felt like this since the Carter years...
That ex-agent they offed had class and guts, something lacking in his assasins, that's for sure. My money is on Putin for blowing up his own people in their apartment buildings as an excuse to prolong his war. No wonder they're after him. Makes me want to get my hands on that book he wrote. I'm not one of those that thinks this gvt. was behind 9/11; but I do think 9/11 was used as an excuse to get rid of Saddam and secure a "safe and reliable" source of oil for the US. Afghanistan was justified and will, if lost, be due to our negligence and lack of attention. All for Iraq; kiss Pakistan's rear end while they hide ubl in their mountains, and send our guys and gals home w/o arms and legs or in body bags.
I just want to gag 24/7 when I think what this country has been thru...
Russian citizens and Americans citizens have one thing in common; we're both being screwed by inept, greedy leaders. And we'll pay the price before they do.
plastik
Nov 26th, 2006, 1:52 PM
It is very unlikely that we will find out who performed this very professional hit. In Russia political murders are virtually never solved.
For example no one has ever found out who gunned down the fearless journalist Anna Politkovskaya
When journalist Ann Leslie met her she had already survived one poison attempt, but remained dedicated to exposing Putin's brutal conduct of the Chechen war. Litvinenko had been investigating her murder.
Another one was Galina Starovoitova. She told Ann they would kill her one day and lo and behold, she was found murdered at the bottom of a stairwell.
If Putin didn't order the assassination of Litvinenko, who did?
It could be members of the siloviki, his shadowy power network. It could be a contract killing ordered by members of the vast, ruthless Russian business mafia, which has never been adverse to a bit of murder-and perhaps the former spy had something on them.
The Daily Mail
Hopefully this time as it took place on UK soil and has been publicised so much, more notice will be taken. I don't want the government to sit back and say "OK, so Russia used an illegal radiological weapon on our territory to assassinate someone, and we're just gonna sit back and not say anything". Russia is run by criminals, and the UN and its members are too scared to stand up and admit that fact.
Perfectionist
Nov 26th, 2006, 9:07 PM
Hopefully this time as it took place on UK soil and has been publicised so much, more notice will be taken. I don't want the government to sit back and say "OK, so Russia used an illegal radiological weapon on our territory to assassinate someone, and we're just gonna sit back and not say anything". Russia is run by criminals, and the UN and its members are too scared to stand up and admit that fact.Russia is way to powerful now for anybody to stand up to .....
krakatoa
Nov 26th, 2006, 10:16 PM
I have to say Guys, that you are very intelligent, and you take time to talk about this, i went on another forum did the same thread, it was not at all like you, they where saying things like, who cares. More than one person, they did'nt bother to discuss, it. I have to say i did'nt went back to this site, since at least this morning, i will keep you posted, on this one.
Krakatoa. see you later.
Cornish Maid
Nov 27th, 2006, 7:22 AM
Why Putin wants me dead by Alexander Litvinento
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=418652&in_page_id=1770
krakatoa
Nov 27th, 2006, 10:26 AM
I went back to the site, there was more discussion, about it than yesterday morning.
The think we also have to be concern, is that the person, or persons, that have access to this polonium, could do something more drasting about it????
And sincerely, i prefer here AO, still better exchanges. On this one, and other's to. I am talking about politics, current events, and Armageddon and disaster. Thanks for reading me.
MapMan
Nov 27th, 2006, 11:27 AM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13553933,00.html
They keep finding radioactive traces all over the place in London. I hope he didn't sit anywhere I have sat!!
krakatoa
Nov 28th, 2006, 10:09 AM
keep up posting about this if you learned more. very intriguing, a lot of concern. Krakatoa.
plastik
Nov 28th, 2006, 2:32 PM
8 people, 5 more than previously reported, are now being tested for radiation exposure symptoms, and 68 cases of concerned members of the public have been followed up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6190620.stm
MetalMilitia
Nov 29th, 2006, 12:38 AM
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loganosborne
Nov 29th, 2006, 1:47 PM
Watched on the news that they found radation on BA planes.
Radiation found on British Airway jetliners
LONDON, England (AP) -- Authorities grounded three British Airways jetliners in London and Moscow on Wednesday and drew up plans to contact thousands of airplane passengers as they broadened their investigation into the radiation poisoning death of a former Russian spy.
Two planes at London's Heathrow Airport tested positive for traces of radiation, a third plane has been taken out of service in Moscow awaiting examination.
Home Secretary John Reid disclosed the search following a meeting with COBRA, the government's emergency committee. Reid said two planes had been tested so far and that another would be tested.
Read More (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/29/uk.spy.ba.ap/index.html)
lycanox
Nov 29th, 2006, 2:27 PM
This whole Poetin did it stuff, is growing more ridiculous every day.
Like the KGB is stupid enough to leave such traces.
kathaksung
Nov 29th, 2006, 3:00 PM
451. The death of former Russian spy (11/25/06)
Ex-KGB spy Litvinenko died in London on 11/23. He said Kremlin poisoned him. Litvinenko is a traitor of Russia. Russia has motive to kill him. That's the foundation Litvinenko's accusation based on. But I think in different way. The reason:
1. Government rarely do such high profile murder case. Politically it hurts more than being benefited. An unilateral murder like this one would cause serious diplomatic problem between two countries.
2. Such murder used to be done in cross secret deal between the secret police of the two countries.
3. Litvinenko defected in 1990's. There is little intelligence value left for him for the Western. He is a sacrifice in secret deal. Litvinenko and another defector - Lt. Benlenko had a common lot. There is a strong similarity in their poison case. Re: "The thing impressed me most was the pilot was poisoned when he was hidden in witness shelter. Belenko was still young but he was bald. The medical examination concluded that it was caused by slow poison of a kind of rare metal. ....Most likely he became a Quinea pig for intelligence in test of slow poison. When he was of no use but a burden for them. See "186. Slow poison (12/6/03)"" Litvinenko was poisoned by rare metal. He is hairless too.
5. I think he is part of a secret deal. The deal is to justify a dirty bomb, (or even a nuclear bomb). There was such a deal in October. (N. Korea nuclear test and later China arrested two N. Koreans for selling small amount of Uranium.) The deal failed after my revelation. Russia now replaces the role of N.Korea. Russia will play the role of the source of the radioactive material (or even a nuclear bomb).
6. The payment to Russia is WTO and the life of one defector.
Re: "US deal lets Russia join WTO
By Andrew E. Kramer and Edmund L. Andrews
New York Times November 11, 2006
Moscow - Officials in Washington and Moscow reached an agreement in principle for Russia to join the WTO. "
7. The purpose of the deal is to justify a radioactive bombing on Western so Bush can start another Mid-east war - bombing Iran's nuclear site.
8. Litvinenko's case is used to cover up the planned "nuclear terror bombing ". It told public in advance: see, we have a conflict. The bombing plot was not a collaborate work planned by us.
9. If Litvinenko was poisoned on 11/1 as he alleged , then after weeks of medical treatment, he should have got better. Poison used to excreted after several days. What Litvinenko encountered with seems to be a continuing poisoning. His situation suddenly worsened and died on 11/23.
10. Why choosing 11/23? Because it will bring the cover up function into play to its best. I think Feds planned the "nuclear terror attack" day on 11/24. It is the "Black Friday" when the Christmas shopping season starts. An attack on shopping mall will cause large casualty which will give the full justification for Bush to bomb Iran.
The Inside Group had tasted the sweet by attacking people in 911. With which they started war in Afghan and Iraq.
They want to use same tactic to start war in Iran. "October surprise" aimed at the audience of seven NFL football stadiums. "November surprise" (I call it December surprise in #450) aimed at the Christmas shopping customers on Black Friday.
The principle originates from a government plan done 40 years ago:"Casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation." (Quote from Northwoods Operation)
plastik
Nov 29th, 2006, 4:44 PM
There was no 'October surprise', and now this supposed November surprise date has also passed without event, yet you still chose to post it today regardless.
krakatoa
Nov 29th, 2006, 5:34 PM
Anyway the fact that there is trace of it, on planes, and other place he when, is pretty serious. For me it is Terrorism, from who, dont know. But these guys as the possibility to have access to this polonium, and this is my concern about it, i know i already wrote the last sentence. But like the Anthrax after 9/11, now this, nothing happened since in USA about Anthrax, i hope it will be the same outcome in London, and planes. Krakatoa.
loganosborne
Nov 30th, 2006, 1:11 AM
Anyway the fact that there is trace of it, on planes, and other place he when, is pretty serious. For me it is Terrorism, from who, dont know.
I agree this is terrorism and it is quite a worrying situation.
shawnee
Nov 30th, 2006, 6:58 AM
Looks to me like the trail leads straight to the heart of Russia. Just you wait; WTO admission will be a romp for their mafia. Can you imagine the companies coerced by their mafia AND blackmailing over oil distributions?
Boggles the mind; makes you wish for the "good old days" of Brezhnev and party. These guys are a breed of vipers now unleashed on the world and its assets.
Bully boys running rampant; move over Wolfowitz, Cheney and Rumsfeld; you've got competition and they've got "protection" and oil!!!
Cornish Maid
Nov 30th, 2006, 9:59 AM
Well said Shawnee, and the "good old days" weren't any picnic.
lycanox
Nov 30th, 2006, 12:27 PM
What do we know of him anyway?
That he died in such sad way and blamed the Russian government, doesn't mean he is telling the truth.
For all we know he was smuggling that stuff for an dirty bomb from Moscow to London, but get infected himself. Being forced to be taken to an hospital could have forced him to think of an excuse for being poisoned. explaining the story we hear today.
plastik
Dec 1st, 2006, 10:02 AM
Second man tests positive for radiation poisoing
Italian Mario Scaramella, a contact of dead ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko, has tested positive for polonium-210.
Mr Scaramella is not thought to be suffering physical symptoms but the amount found is "likely to be of concern for [his] immediate health".
He met Mr Litvinenko at sushi restaurant Itsu in central London on the day he fell ill.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6199464.stm
krakatoa
Dec 1st, 2006, 11:14 AM
Thanks for that, Plastik, for this link, for now i take it the way it goes, but if they, the news say something like, a person of, the general public, is contaminated, i will start to be Worry. Krakatoa
dutchie
Dec 2nd, 2006, 4:58 AM
And we let those bastards into WTO; Bush's "best friend with a soul" has his fingerprints all over this incident. Radioactive isotope; yeah, like the KGB are gonna get their hands on that and use it without permission from higher up. What stinkin' thugs. They've already used their oil as a bully bat,done everything they could to start a war in Georgia and are now using oil as a weapon there. Europe better get their head out of their collective asses, that's all I have to say. Putin's no more than the Russian equivalent of a 'Napoleon' run amuck. Organized crime runs the nation, aids is rampant, alcololism is inbred in their culture, the ruthless KGB mentality is back; they've evolved backward with Putin's nostalgic blessing into the ol' ussr. I don't know of a more screwed up country, other than Bangladesh and Iraq.
Let them into the WTO and their bully-boy, nationalistic, paranoid tactics will follow. Oil is what gives them their balls right now. I wish we'd get our act together and make it a national priority to go solar, fusion, wind-power, hell even coal; anything to make us less reliant on ANY nation for fuel.
What an ungodly mess; it's getting so I don't even want to hear the news anymore. I haven't felt like this since the Carter years...
That ex-agent they offed had class and guts, something lacking in his assasins, that's for sure. My money is on Putin for blowing up his own people in their apartment buildings as an excuse to prolong his war. No wonder they're after him. Makes me want to get my hands on that book he wrote. I'm not one of those that thinks this gvt. was behind 9/11; but I do think 9/11 was used as an excuse to get rid of Saddam and secure a "safe and reliable" source of oil for the US. Afghanistan was justified and will, if lost, be due to our negligence and lack of attention. All for Iraq; kiss Pakistan's rear end while they hide ubl in their mountains, and send our guys and gals home w/o arms and legs or in body bags.
I just want to gag 24/7 when I think what this country has been thru...
Russian citizens and Americans citizens have one thing in common; we're both being screwed by inept, greedy leaders. And we'll pay the price before they do.
Did you enjoy that little rant?
BTW:
The FSB (ФСБ) is a state security organization in Russia, and is the domestic successor organization to the KGB. Its name is an acronym from the Russian Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (Федера́льная слу́жба безопа́сности Росси́йской Федера́ции) (Federal'naya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti Rossiyskoi Federatsii). It is usually simply called the FSB in English-language sources. Its headquarters are located in Moscow.
There is no KGB in Russia. Secondly: it's not OIL that Russia is trading the most, at the moment it's natural gas. As for the leaders: Bush was democratically elected. If youl feel you have been screwed over by an inept, greedy leader - you guys did it to yourselves... :Blbl:
shawnee
Dec 2nd, 2006, 11:45 PM
FSB, KGB; you can screw with all the letters in the alphabet and you have the same damn goons. I voted the first time for a president (as did many Americans) who promised a gentler and LESS ARROGANT approach to foreign policy. Nobody could foresee this mess - and those of us with sincere misgivings about Bush's Iraq policy DID speak up.
And by the way that "rant" did me a world of good....
plastik
Dec 7th, 2006, 10:59 AM
It was only a matter of time until the public was affected...
7 hotel workers test positive for polonium-210 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6218492.stm)
Workers at a hotel where murdered ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko held a meeting have tested positive for low levels of radioactive polonium-210.
The Health Protection Agency said seven workers in the Pine Bar of the Millennium Hotel in London's Grosvenor Square appeared to have been exposed.
It has asked anyone who was in the Pine Bar between 31 October and 1 November to contact NHS Direct.
It stressed the risk to the general public was likely to be "very low".
From Sky News: However, it (the HPA) warned that they (the workers) have a slightly increased risk of developing cancer.
EDIT: More news; a Russian businessman who met Litvinenko the day he fell ill is in a coma (Edit 2: This has now been denied by a Russian lawyer), and another man who was at the meeting is also in hospital
Litvinenko contact 'is in coma' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6219124.stm)
A Russian businessman who met the former KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko on the day he fell ill is now in a coma, Russia's Interfax agency reports.
Dmitry Kovtun, a security expert, met Mr Litvinenko at a bar in London's Millennium Hotel on 1 November.
Mr Litvinenko was admitted to hospital on the same day and died from radiation poisoning three weeks later.
Another Russian who was at the same meeting, ex-spy Andrei Lugovoy, is also in hospital.
EDIT 2: A Russian lawyer has denied claims that he is in a coma
krakatoa
Dec 7th, 2006, 9:21 PM
Ya i saw that story today another one, in coma, that can die, i cannot believe that story, shame on the one who did this, and if they wanted to, they could do one of the most horrible terrorists attack in the futur, lets hope it will not happened. Krakatoa.
loganosborne
Dec 8th, 2006, 6:37 AM
they could do one of the most horrible terrorists attack in the futur, lets hope it will not happened. Krakatoa.
Thats the worrying thing in my opnion. Who ever did it must be very clever and must have planned this for years. Who knows what they got planned next.
kathaksung
Dec 9th, 2006, 1:27 PM
452. The source of radioactive material (11/30/06)
My warning of dirty bomb attack done by the rogue part of our government is very correct. I could feel it from the heavy internet harassment after I posted the messages. In many sites, they changed the page format, thus my old thread disappeared. (see #499)
I was even blocked to post in my own home page for 5 days. I am also blocked to post in some big forum sites such like NewYork Times' forum, and google's. The page said,
"Action canceled
Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable."
The "temporarily unavailable" lasts 5 days until now. I don't think for a big company like google could allow it happens in this way. I think it only applies on me as one site had said, "the server has been instructed not to let you have it."
Anyway the problem also delivered a message that my revelation was so true that they don't want others to know it.
Re: "Radiation Traces Found on British Airways Jets
Investigators Widen Search for Clues in Ex-Spy's Death
LONDON (Nov. 29)
Authorities grounded three British Airways jetliners in London and Moscow on Wednesday and drew up plans to contact thousands of passengers.
High doses of polonium-210 - a rare radioactive element usually manufactured in specialized nuclear facilities - were found in Litvinenko's body, and traces of radiation have been found at sites in London connected with the investigation of his death.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/radiation-traces-found-on-british/20061129140409990006
The story of contaminated British Airways plane (11/29) proves my analysis on 11/25 is very correct. "Russia now replaces the role of N.Korea. Russia will play the role of the source of the radioactive material (or even a nuclear bomb)."
Once a dirty bomb attack occurs, how easy it is to solve the source of radioactive material. The Feds try to make it a perfect "terror attack" from enemy not from government insiders.
Here I'd also like to give an analysis why the Feds are so eager to arrange the source of the tools in "terror attack". Do you still remember the "anthrax attack:" happened five years ago? The anthrax was identified as military weapon grade from defense bio-lab. FBI can not or dare not to resolve the case because it was done by government insiders. For that, FBI has to take the blame of incompetence. (Recently, we saw FBI tried to finish the case by claiming that "military grade" anthrax could be prepared by "clever high school student". see "443. October surprise (2) (10/20/06)")
That's why Feds made secret deals with China, N.Korea, Russia to settle the source problem in advance. They don't want to be tangled in that embarrassment again as they are in anthrax case.
krakatoa
Dec 9th, 2006, 1:30 PM
Earlier on Msnbc. I saw, a report, on this, they said, that there was probably, some radiation in the water in London, at the same time telling the peoples not to worry, the journalist, that stay there said that this was rediculous, to say that water could be contaminated and at the same time, dont worry there is no danger!!! Krakatoa.
loganosborne
Dec 10th, 2006, 11:02 AM
Well just reading this article where it says that theyhave found traces of radation in German homes. These properties did belong to contacts of the Russian spy. Heres the article.
Radiation 'trace' at German homes
Police in Germany say they have found indications of radiation in two properties apparently used by a contact of murdered spy Alexander Litvinenko.
Dmitry Kovtun, who met the former KGB agent on the day he fell ill, is being treated in hospital in Russia.
Police said traces of radiation were found at the Hamburg flat of his ex-wife and at her mother's home outside the city.
Officials in Moscow said Russian police may travel to Britain.
Read More (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6163667.stm)
kathaksung
Dec 19th, 2006, 9:21 PM
453. November Surprise (12/5/06)
About two years ago, my daughter had bought a pocket size digital camcorder for 99 dollars. It was a rare bargain then. I thought it was a special deal Feds gave to its support group members. I had no chance to buy one like that at same price.
About one year ago, I learned my daughter preferred a new style digital camera to that video recorder. I offered to buy that old one. She hesitated. One day later, she agreed. It once puzzled me for a while. I think my daughter was manipulated by Feds. How could they agree to let me have a tool which would be used to record their action?
The puzzle didn't last long. The camcorder played well when I tested it. Then when I replaced the battery, I found the new battery wore out within minutes. I thought someone shorted the circuit. It made the camcorder virtually not workable.
Last month before Thanksgiving day, I saw the pocket size digital camcorder in advertisement again. The price is around 99 dollars, still the same as it was two years ago. I also saw it was on the advertisement of Albertsons. Albertsons is a food chain store. Electronics device is not its merchandise. The paper said, "Three days only". That is Nov. 24 to 26. I thought it was also the action date of Rove's "November surprise".
Since I found the shopping center at the cross of N.Capital Ave and Hostetter Rd. might become the bombing target of Feds, (see "448. Highway 680 pass-over bridge was a bomb target (11/15/06)") the other shopping center I could go was the one located at the cross of Landess Ave. and Morrill Ave. The food store there was Albertsons. I think one of the targets of the November dirty bomb attack was that shopping center. Feds knew I was alert on the other store so they tried to lure me to the Albertsons by something I was eager for.
The date of former Russian spy's sudden death (11/23) proved my opinion. It was planned to be followed by dirty bomb attack the next day. (11/24 the Black Friday) It would increase public's panic against the radioactive material. It would justify the source of radioactive material used in dirty bomb.
The poison is Polonium-210 which is a material strictly controlled. There are many other isotopes. e.g. Cesium-137 is more popularly used in scientific research and easier to get. Why Po-210 was chosen? Because Polonium-210 and Uranium-235 are the only elements to be used in nuclear bomb. It will be convenient for Bush group to link it to Iran which is now accused of developing nuclear weapon.
Karl Rove had twice predicted a "surprise". One was "October surprise" which went soured after my warning. Then he made another one of "November surprise". Re:
"TERRORIST ATTACK IN NOVEMBER" ACCORDING TO KARL ROVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8wsRK9G5IQ
I believe I am a target in their plan. I believe my revelation postponed many plots planned by Feds. But new plot comes out after the failed one. I think if a terror attack happens, one target area will be in the area of north San Jose.
454. All fool's event (12/10/06)
There is an All Fool's Day. This poison case becomes an all fool's event. The news reported the dead former Russian spy alleged Putin was behind the poison case. It is a very high level case. One thing for sure is this is a murder case. Another thing is the poison was Po-210.
If someone plans to murder, the priority is to make it a covert one. Al least the murderer would try to leave no clue to draw a detection. For intelligence, they have many high tech killing methods, make a death look like a natural death. If they chose to poison, there are still many choices. The poison they use will be hard to identify.
See what poison they used in Litvinenko's case. A rare metal, a radioactive isotope - Polonium-210. Since Po-210 is a high-restricted material, the way to access this material is very limited. Generally, a murderer will avoid to use such kind of material as poison because it's easy to be tracked from its origin.
Po-210 is a hard to handle material. It is radioactive. It needs special treatment in transfer. Otherwise not only the carrier will be hurt, the environment also will be polluted. Why chose a hard to control poison? The murderer has to worry about his own safety while he carry such kind of material.
Po-210 is a radioactive material and is easy to be detected. Murderer should chose more covert poison than an isotope. Isotope is itself used as tracer in scientific research. With instrument, even a tiny amount of isotope could be traced. Why chose an easy to be detected poison?
The poison case is a big joke from the beginning. Litvinenko was said poisoned on 11/1. He died on 11/23. It was 23 days when he was sick. Hospital didn't know what caused his death.
The news of 11/24 reported it as: "strange, rapid decline", "mystery remains". As an outsider, when I saw the picture of a hairless Litvinenko, I knew it's a symptom of heavy metal poison. (Polonium is a heavy metal, but it's rare. In medical, most referred is lead poison. ) That should be common sense of the doctor. How could they fail to find it? Radiation also causes hairless. Doctor should know it.
The media keeps reporting the poisoned case and almost have new discovery everyday. They found it on the airplanes flying between Moscow and London; in the shushi bar, in U.K.'s embassy in Moscow, now even in German. If the route develops to Teheran, Iran, I will not be surprised. Because that is the target this event created for.
But will a perpetrator, try to carry out a murder case with a hard to get material, hard to handle isotope, easy to be tracked poison in his case? Is he an idiot, or a fool?
No, he is not. It's a rogue group which framed a poisoned case to justify a dirty bomb attack, aimed to have another war in Iran. It treats the public all like fools.
Remember this: In Rove's October surprise, N. Korea had a nuclear test. China arrested several N.Koreas for selling Uranium. All to justify the source of dirty bomb attack. I think it went soured after my revelation.
Then in November surprise, Litvinenko died on Polonium from Russia.
Uranium and Polonium are radioactive material. They were used in these cases to justify the source of dirty bomb attack. When it was revealed too, which will be the next? Maybe US itself? One thing is certain, the Inside group won't stop here.
New war is ahead.
kathaksung
Dec 29th, 2006, 3:47 PM
455. "New wars ahead" (12/15/06)
I strongly recommend people to read the article "new wars ahead" written by Jeff Steinberg. It proves my allegation of dirty bomb attack planned by Bush administration is correct.
Quote, "new wars ahead
Jeff Steinberg
Executive Intelligence Review. Nov. 17, 2006
Whichever party lands in the White House come January 2009, the neo-cons hope to be there to share in the spoils. Either way, they are busily organizing a ``Get Iran'' war alliance with frightened Sunni regimes in the Persian Gulf and Arab world and Israel--to make sure that the Bush-Cheney regime commits one more fatal atrocity--a military strike on Iran's purported secret nuclear weapons sites--before leaving office (see preceding article). ...........
Several senior Washington intelligence veterans, and one regional vice president of a major U.S. defense firm, say that their greatest fear-- between now and the New Year when the Democrats take the keys to Capitol Hill back--is a ``Gulf of Tonkin'' incident, a provocation covertly arranged originating from Washington, that would provide the pretext for war. The most likely target of such a scheme: Iran. The most likely architect of such an operation: Dick Cheney and his remaining coterie of neo-con troublemakers and whatever assets they have recruited from within the Special Forces community and the ``black operations'' side of the intelligence community. One burning question is whether President Bush has already signed a Presidential Intelligence Finding, authorizing these covert tricks. "
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=63301
Steinberg's article published on 11/17. He said that Cheney's office now becomes the Neo-con central and that they are organizing a Sunni alliance (include Syria, Jordan, Saudi, Egypt) in Mid-east to fight against Shiite (Iran, Hasbolla). His point of view was proved very correct. One week later, on 11/25, Cheney made a sudden visit to Saudi. Obviously to talk about that alliance.
Steinberg's fear about a "Gulf of Tonkin" incident, was well described by my continuous postings about October Surprise and November Surprise. The framed case is a dirty bomb attack. To justify the source of radioactive material, they made secret deals with China, N. Korea and then Russia. These plots went soured after my revelation. What's next? The possibility is to frame a domestic case. Here is a news reported 5 days ago. I think it was released on purpose.
Re: "Nuclear fuels leaving Bay Area
By Ian Hoffman Media News
The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory recently began shedding its supply of plutonium and enriched uranium - capable of producing dozens of nuclear bombs - with a secret shipment to the Los Alamos National Laboratory.
Details of the first and future shipments, including their timing as well as the mass and form of the material remained classified, according to federal officials."
(Mercury News Dec. 10, 2006)
We don't know what motivated the recent shipment of nuclear material. It will certainly create a chance of "missing" shipment in transfer. I don't think it's a coincidence they release the news at this time, when Rove's October and November Surprise failed to be carried out.
shawnee
Dec 29th, 2006, 9:28 PM
You'd think with Rumsfeld gone they'd have the brains to put Cheney on a leash.
kathaksung
Jan 9th, 2007, 4:04 PM
458. The execution of Saddam (12/30/06)
Saddam was executed yesterday. It was arranged by Neocon. It is a strategy step of their Mid-east war plan.
The Iraq government is a puppet of the US. The execution of Saddam must be approved by its master(or ordered by) - Bush administration. Why do they perform such an execution in current situation?
The Neocon's plan in Mid-east is bigger than the Iraq war. After Iraq, the next target is Iran and Syria. To prepare for the Iran and Syria war, US troops must stay in Iraq. That's why we saw there was a continued riot in Iraq. America people are tired of this unjust war. It's them who paid money and lives for it. What's the tactic Bush uses to deal with them? He said if US withdraw from Iraq, then terrorists win and US loses. No people want to admit they support terrorist, no people want to be cowards. Bush uses patriotism to halt anti-war movement.
What excuse the Neocon use to have US troops staying in Iraq? Insurgence and riot. Although some people said Iraq war is like Vietnam war, it is not. There were two big countries: Soviet Union and China behind the Vietnam. It was their support of weapons and economic aids which helped North Vietnam to win the war. There was none such support for Iraq. Iran and Syria, are much weaker and smaller than Soviet Union and China then. They themselves know they are the next target of the Neocon. They dare not to offend US by supporting the Iraq insurgence. To stay in Iraq, Neocon try to make a mess in Iraq - they need a civil war of Iraq.
Al Qaida is a tool of US intelligence. The 911 attack was carried out in the name of Al Qaida. The purpose was to justify the Mid-east war. It succeeded. To provoke a civil war in Iraq, Al Qaida was once again involved.
The conflict between Sunni and Shiiti in Iraq was provoked by the bombing of a Shiiti Muslim Shirine by Al Qaida.
Al Qaida then helped Sunni Muslim in a series of conflict with Shiiti. The purpose is to push for a civil war.
You can view Saddam as a shrine of Sunni Muslim. Kill Saddam is to pour oil on a fire. It will flame a civil war.
America people voted Democratic Party to the House on the hope that the Congress can help US army withdraw from Iraq. Now with this strategy step, Bush will say, the situation is worsen. On contrary, we need more troops there instead of withdraw. A draft may be revived.
The next target in Neocon's map is Iran and Syria. For the coming war, US army has to stay in Iraq. To justify the staying, Neocon needs a riot in Iraq. Saddam's death is one step to reach this goal. Any politicians with brain know the execution at this time will stir the storm not calm it.
(Though Syria and Saudi may be treated as allies in Neocon's plan to deal with Iran, it is only temporary. Remember Saddam also once was an ally of US when he was used to fight against Iran. )
Re:
Quote, "Behind the Cheney Trip to Riyadh
(Reprinted with permission of Executive Intelligence Review)
by Jeffrey Steinberg
Nov. 27, 2006 (EIRNS)-A well-placed and highly reliable source has provided the following account of Vice President Dick Cheney's Nov. 25, 2006 visit to Saudi Arabia.
The essential message delivered to Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah by Vice President Cheney was that there is no basis for dialogue with Iran. The U.S. position in the region has been weakened, and therefore a new security architecture must be established, particularly in the Persian Gulf, to contain and counter Iran's growing influence. Already, NATO has been in dialogue with Qatar and Kuwait, in pursuit of closer, upgraded cooperation. Cheney proposed to establish a new regional balance of power, through a Sunni Arab alliance with Israel, to confront the Iranian threat. Cheney argued that to negotiate with Iran at this time would be tantamount to surrender. A new military organization will be built, involving the Gulf Cooperation Council states, Egypt, and Jordan. NATO and the United States will be closely involved, and Israel will be a de facto participant. These moves led by Cheney obviously aim to pre-empt adoption by the Bush Administration of any recommendations from the Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group, to initiate diplomatic talks with Iran.
Cheney took the lead in proposing this new security architecture. There is, at this point, a consensus inside the Bush Administration to pursue this policy. When President Bush arrives later this week in Amman, Jordan, to meet with Iraq's Prime Minister Maliki, he may also hold secret talks with several senior Syrian officials. In that meeting, President Bush will bluntly offer Syria the opportunity to break its ties to Iran and join in the emerging Sunni Arab bloc.
The approach to Syria coincides with a major effort, within Lebanon, to force Michel Aoun to break his alliance with Hezbollah, in the wake of the assassination of Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel. Over the weekend, there was a meeting of leading Maronites, sponsored by Patriarch Sfeir, aimed at tightening the pressure on Aoun to break with Hezbollah, and join a Sunni Arab, Christian, Druze coalition to counter Hezbollah's power. Were the Syrians to accept the Bush offer (highly unlikely), they would be expected to pressure Hezbollah to disarm, as a condition for negotiations to get the Golan Heights back from Israel.
Condi Rice's planned meeting with Mahmoud Abbas and Ehud Olmert is aimed at kick-starting the Israeli-Palestinian talks. But the key to the Israeli policy will be to complete the construction of the wall, and to build similar walls of separation along the border with Lebanon. The argument is that both Hamas and Hezbollah represent extensions of Iran's influence into the areas bordering on Israel, and they must be contained. The "peace" offer being put on the table will center on these walls of separation.
Iran is already aware of these Cheney-led initiatives. While Arab governments will assume that Iran will react and respond to the attempt to create this Sunni Arab-U.S.-Israel security architecture to confront Iran by playing for sectarian conflict in Iraq, Lebanon and elsewhere, sources caution that Iran is taking a more sophisticated view. Recurring statements by President Ahmadinejad are calculated to instigate an Israeli attack on Iran's purported nuclear weapons sites. Iran anticipates some kind of attack on these sites-either by the United States or Israel. Iran would prefer an Israeli attack for several reasons. First, the United States has far more significant military capabilities to strike Iran than Israel does.
Second, any Israeli attack on a Muslim country would trigger a revolt on the Arab streets. Iran carefully studied the response of the population throughout the Persian Gulf and Arab world to the Israeli attacks on Lebanon this summer. They anticipate massive Arab support, across the sectarian Shi'ite-Sunni divide, for Iran, in the event of an Israeli strike.
http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/press_releases
kathaksung
Jan 19th, 2007, 3:30 PM
460. Review three plots in last three months (1/10/07)
1. October surprise:
10/9/06, N. Korea had a nuclear test.
10/26, Chinese TV news reported that in Peking, police arrested N. Koreans who tried to sell **gram of Uranium.
In October, three of US Navy strike force grouped on the sea opposite Iran in the Persian Gulf.
Started from later September, there was an attempt to lure me to the shopping center where there is a fly-over bridge of Highway 680. The Highway fly-over could be the justification that it was Al Qaida's target.
2. November surprise:
11/21, an anti-Syrian politician - Industry Minister of Lebanon, Pierre Gemayel - was assassinated. His death caused a big protest of pro-government Lebanese and a big rally of pro-Hezbollah Lebanese as well.
11/23, Litvinenko - a Russian defector, died after strange, rapid declines. The news later reported he died of Polonium poison - a radioactive material.
11/24, Black Friday. There was attempt to lure me to another shopping center with the bait of a pocket video camera which I was eager for. I think this was the action day in Feds' plan. The justification was that the Christamas shopping spree was the target of Al Qaida.
3. December bombing:
11/17, In Executive Intelligence Review there was an article "Cheney and Neo-Cons Plotting More Wars". It talked about Neo-Cons planned to push for a civil war in Iraq. Let Saudi, Jordan and Egypt help Sunni Muslim in Iraq to fight against Shiiti of Iraq and Iran. (see New Wars ahead in #455)
11/25, Cheney flied to Riyadh. On 11/29 and 30, Bush went to Jordan to meet Iraqi P.M. there. They probably decided to kill Saddam at that time. This, proved the extraordinary accuracy of the article "Cheney and Neo-Cons Plotting More Wars". It also surprised me by their eagerness for the war. When the 11/24 Black Friday plot failed, next day Cheney started their new December plot.
12/23, U.N. approved sanction on Iran.
12/25, news reported US held four Iranians in Iraq aimed at people suspected of conducting attacks on Iraqi security forces. There were Iran diplomats among the detainees.
In mid December, a free movie ticket was offered. The theater was in Great Mall where once I often went to.
12/26 night and 12/27 morning, a hurricane like wind raided Bay area. I thought the weak fence was the target. Because if I need material to repair the damaged fence, I had to go to the Home Depot which was in Great Mall.
12/28, the kitchen sink disposer damaged. I believe the target of the Feds this time was the Great Mall.
12/29, (Iraqi time 12/30) Saddam was hanged. A provocation of civil war.
Conclusion
1. To start a war on Iran, US Inside Group prepared a 911 style terror attack - a dirty bomb attack.
2. I was the main target of the bombing attack. Because my revelation is very correct. (Though there will be many other bombings at same time, possibly in Britain and elsewhere US)
Here is proof for that bombing: Fear a "Gulf of Tonkin" incident in article "Cheney and Neo-Cons plotting more wars". (see #455)
And the "mass killing" predict of Pat Robertson. In my point of view, P. Robertson is a speaker of the intelligence. What he said was not a prophecy but the plan of the Inside Group.
Re: Quote, "Pat Robertson: God told me of 'mass killing' in 2007
POSTED: 7:26 p.m. EST, January 3, 2007
VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia (AP) -- Evangelical broadcaster Pat Robertson said Tuesday that God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would cause a "mass killing" late in 2007.
"I'm not necessarily saying it's going to be nuclear," he said during his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/02/robertson.predictions.ap/index.html
3. There will be civil war in Lebanon and Iraq if the bombing plot succeeds.
4. The main target is war on Iran. All works are for this goal. Three big plots in three months. Very intensify work. Why they are so eager at Iran?
kathaksung
Jan 29th, 2007, 3:21 PM
This is an article I wrote three years ago. Compare Litvinenko with Belunko. Both are Russian defectors who lost intelligence value after years of defection. Both were poisoned by heavy metal. Both are hairless.
186. Slow poison (12/6/03) (continue to message 181 and 182)
When I thought over what happened to the sandwich and beef soup. I recalled an article in Readers' digest. It was a story about a defect Russian pilot.
Lt. Viktor Belenko drove a Mig-25 to Nakodate, Japan on 9/6/1976. The Mig-25 was the most advanced fighter in Russia at that time. US experts flied to Japan, dismantled the plane and had a thorough examination. They returned the dismantled Mig fighter to Soviet Union about ten days later. The defect pilot, was under "witness protection" and lived in somewhere US.
I noticed the article talked about that once authority had suspected this was a fake defection because the expert found some most important part of technique were missing in the plane. The article also talked about that Belenko refused a huge rewards. (millions of dollars) He said he wanted to make a living by his own hands. That his defection was not for money but for opinion. It's real incredible for money oriented intelligence, I think.
The thing impressed me most was the pilot was poisoned when he was hidden in witness shelter. Belenko was still young but he was bald. The medical examination concluded that it was caused by slow poison of a kind of rare metal. (I forgot the name of that metal) The article, of course, alleged it to the work of KGB. I don't believe it. Few people would know where the pilot was if he was under "witness protection". And it was easy to identify the person who had access to pilot's food. (Slow poison took a long time work.) Most likely he became a Quinea pig for intelligence in test of slow poison. When he was of no use but a burden for them.
There are many such examples. The most known one were former Phillipine President Marcos, and former Iranian Tsar Barlivie. When they were rulers they were loyal ally of US. Once they lost power and had to drift abroad they became a political burden of US. Because they were ousted by their own people. Barlivie even couldn't find a shelter in US.. They both died in a short time. ( in about three years or less?) Marcos died of kidney failure and Barlivie died of cancer(?)
There are many advantages of slow poison murder. 1. Work covertly. All death are like a natural one. (like diabetes, kidney failure, cancer...) 2. Control the death on will. They can make target getting sick by slow poison, once the death is neccesary for Feds, what they have to do is just increase the dose, the target died to intelligence' demand without causing a suspicion. 3. Deniable. If the lethal dose is 100 gram, they can dilute the actual poison dose at 1 gram each. So it's safe for them even if they were caught. Because it' s not lethal. 4. It's hard to track because the dose each time used is a tiny one.
This explains what happened in sandwich and beef soup story. The people involved behaved strangely. They thought there was something in food. Nobody knew it was a slow poison, and anybody could eat it and nothing would have happened unless they were fed for a long time. Later, I still noticed they slowly poisoned me. I omit the story here because there is more urge information to tell. I'll post them if there is chance.
Though I couldn't feel the poison before. The situation changed this year. Since this July, they aggressively intensified the persecution. Include poison which I think led to the cancer outbroke of my father in law. I can feel uncomfort after eating poisoned food. This is one reason I said they are going crazy. Feds increased poison dose. They are in a hurry
lady-t
Jan 29th, 2007, 8:44 PM
whew!!!!!! what a large amount to wrap around all at once. would like to hear more. only in smaller more easy to decipher amounts.
kathaksung
Feb 9th, 2007, 1:45 PM
465. The dirty bomb plot goes on (2/5/07)
Four months ago, in October 2006, I wrote:
Re: "445. Dirty bomb attack (10/30/06)
On 10/26, the KTSF Chinese TV reported such a news that China arrested two North Koreans whom tried to sell ** gram of Uranium. (The news was not seen in other media, though) It will justify the source of dirty bomb if the attack happens. "
Three months ago, in November 2006, I alleged the death of the defector Litvinenko plays the same role:
Re: "451. The death of former Russian spy (11/25/06)
5. I think he is part of a secret deal. The deal is to justify a dirty bomb, (or even a nuclear bomb). There was such a deal in October. (N. Korea nuclear test and later China arrested two N. Koreans for selling small amount of Uranium.)"
Last month, I wrote "459. December bombing plot in Great Mall (1/5/07)". Of course, if the plot was carried out, it would have been a dirty bomb attack.
Ten days ago, a news proved my allegation were true.
Quote, "Sting thwarts sale of Uranium
Russian had nuclear-grade bomb material
By Desmond Butler (AP)
Washington - Republic of Georgia authorities, aided by the CIA , set up a sting operation last summer that led to the arrest of a Russian man who tried to sell a small amount of nuclear-bomb grade uranium."
(Mercury News 1/25/2007)
People may say this was a case of "last summer" which doesn't relate to the current plot. The point is why the media did not report that news last summer but report it now when it becomes not "news" but "olds"? When intelligence releases such kind of "olds", they always have a purpose. This is to justify the source of a dirty bomb material.
In recent plots in latest four months, we can see the similarity:
1. Russia and China were chosen to be collaborators. Because they have been the rivals of the US, their story will be more believable.
2. Their satellite country, Georgia; N. Korea; Belarus (in event to cut oil to Europe) joined the plot.
3. The direct purpose is to justify the source of dirty bomb material. (N. Korean selling Uranium, Russian selling Uranium.)
4. The hidden purpose is to spread nuclear panic. (The nuclear test in N. Korea and Litvinenko died of radioactive poison.) So when dirty bomb attacks happen in US and Europe, Bush will have full justification to bomb the nuclear site in Iran.
I think the dirty bomb plot is going on even though the three plots in October, November and December went soured. There was another one in the end of January. The news of the sting operation in Georgia was part of it. The possible targets not only in North San Jose, but also in other big cities, include Boston. In the end of January, there was an Ad scare there. Cartoon signs were thought to be bombs. I think if the main target has been successfully bombed, (that is N. San Jose, or Milpitas), Boston would have been attacked. too. The devices for bomb were there already: the battery and the wire. What the rogue team had to do is to send some innocent workers installing the bomb later when the action time was due. The worker thought they were adding more advertising device in the ad box, not aware it was a bomb. They eventually became "suicide bombers".
I allege so because the strange treatment on this event. I read many story like this. People arrested when they made a joke of "hijack" on the plane. Luggage was intercepted for examination when it looked suspicious. Media always are serious reporting such kind of news . No one think it's a joke. But what I read in Mercury News is this:
Topic, "Ad scare suspects smiling in court
Pair make jokes after posting their bail"
"They appeared amused in court as a prosecutor alleged that one of the devices looked like it had C-4 explosive. "
"The devices also appeared in nine other big US cities in recent weeks but didn't raise an eyebrow in any of them.
Jo Baltz, a bookkeeper for World Cup Coffee and Tea in Portland, had one sitting on a filing cabinet Thursday and called "him" cute.
"the devices were "so obviously not suspicious," Sgt. John Urquhart said. "
(San Jose Mercury News 2/2/2007)
It gave people an impression that it was over reacted. That was conflict to the consistent seriousness when media talked about "security". So I view it as a real bombing plan of the Feds. When it was broken by alerted Boston people, the Feds play it down by the media they controlled.
Remember, in January 2005, there was a Boston dirty bomb case. (see #284) Boston already has been a target in Fed's plan.
kathaksung
Feb 21st, 2007, 5:01 PM
466. More evidence of January plot (2/10/07)
In #465, I alleged that the news release of a Russian selling Uranium and the case of the Boston Ad scare was a symptom that the Feds prepared another dirty bomb attack in later January. Other events proved there was a January plot.
In previous messages, I said that in these plots, after the dirty bomb attack in US, Bush would start war on Iran. It also would come with the civil war in Lebanon and Iraq. In November Surprise, three days before the Black Friday (I think 11/24 was the bombing action day) they assassinated the Industrial Minister of Lebanon - a pro-western politician, to justify a Lebanon civil war. In December plot, they executed Saddam Hussain to justify an Iraq civil war.
What did they do for the January plot? Read the following news:
Quote, "Hezbollah-backed strike shuts down Beirut
By Megan K.Stack (Los Angeles Times)
Beirut, Lebanon - Hezbollah and its allies paralyzed Lebanon on Tuesday, sending thousands of demonstrators to seize control of major roads, brawl with government supporters and choke the seaside capital in the acrid smoke of burning tires.
The swift seizure of the country's roads took many here by surprise and marked a major escalation in Hezbollah's campaign to overthrow Lebanon's US-backed government. At least three people died and more than 100 were wounded as clashes flared around the country."
(Mercury News, 1/24/07)
One day later:
"Strike by Hezbollah disappears, sudden calm returns to Beirut
By Megan K.Stack (Los Angeles Times)
Beirut, Lebanon - By the time morning commuters headed to work Wednesday, the fires had been snuffed out. The roadblocks had melted away. The Rampaging youth who were burning cars and choking off the nation's roads seemed to have evaporated. ......
The sudden peace Wednesday was nearly as disconcerting as the explosion of violence the day before. "
(Mercury News, 1/25/07*)
Then I saw a news:
Quote, "U.S. can't prove Iran link to Iraq strife
By Maura Reynolds, Times Staff Writer
February 3, 2007
WASHINGTON — Administration officials have long complained that Iran was supplying Shiite Muslim militants with lethal explosives and other materiel used to kill U.S. military personnel. But despite several pledges to make the evidence public, the administration has twice postponed the release — most recently, a briefing by military officials scheduled for last Tuesday in Baghdad. "
"The truth is, quite frankly, we thought the briefing overstated, and we sent it back to get it narrowed and focused on the facts," national security advisor Stephen J. Hadley said Friday. "
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran3feb03,0,2695314.story?track=tottext
I checked the calendar, Last Tuesday to Feb. 3 was 1/23. We saw in three days from 1/23 to 1/25, Bush administration officials had prepared a news briefing to release the evidence that Iran supplied lethal arms to kill US military; Hezbollah made a sudden strike in Lebanon (without any reason); and a news release that a Russian arrested for selling Uranium. About same time electronic ad devices installed in sensitive areas in ten big cities in US.
If a dirty bomb attack(s) succeeded in US in later January, the condition for a war with Iran and civil war in Lebanon were ready. For some unknown reason, that plot went soured again. Then we saw the Bush administration postponed the briefing once again; and Hezbollah cancelled the strike as sudden as they starting it.
kathaksung
Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:18 PM
469. Extortion on administration and CIA (2/25/2007)
So far, we saw from October 2006 to January 2007, there was a plot aimed to start Iran war in each month. When the old one went soured, there immediately came a new one.
To spread panic of nuclear terror, (because Iran is developing its nuclear project) there was N.Korea nuclear test, the murder of former Russian agent Litvinenko (died of Radioactive poison), China arresting N.Koreans for selling Uranium, Republic of Georgia arresting Russian for selling Uranium. To connect Iran to the civil war in Lebanon and Iraq, (Iran support Hazbollah and Iraqi Shiite) there was the assassination of the Lebanese Industry Minister, the execution of Saddam Hussain, the sudden seize of Beirut by Hezbollah. To hit Iran's economy, US banned the finance transaction between US banks and Iran's. Planned Paulson's arrest and the collapse of WANTA fund, the cutting oil supply to Europe, the bombing in Bangkok and the manipulation of stock market in Thailand and Hongkong.
The direct excuse to war on Iran is a dirty bomb attack in US. In Pat Robertson's words, it would be "a mass killing". The Feds planned "seven NFL football stadiums" bombing. Black Friday bombing, (after Thanks Giving day), ten big cities bombing, (Boston ad scary), of course, each time, they planned one for me.
It costs them a lot of resources. Will they stop and rest for a while? It seems their master won't allow them to take a break. The intimidation, or whipping, comes right away.
Re: "Mr. Cheney, please give us that 'stiff dose of truth'
Nicholas D. Kristof (NewYork Times columnist)
Because I.Lewis Libby is renowned for his caution, Mr. Vice President, it seems highly unlikely that he would have leaked classified information twice to reporters right after talking to you, unless you had sanctioned the leak. "
(2/8/2007 San Jose Mercury News)
"Closing arguments Tuesday in trial of former Cheney aide
By Michael J. Sniffen AP
The defense put in a hand-written note in which Cheney told the White House secretary to exonerate Libby in the leak and not sacrifice him to protect Bush's top political adviser - Karl Rove. "
(2/15/2007 San Jose Mercury News)
This is whipping on Bush administration. "If you don't act, the fire will extend to Cheney."
And more on CIA.
Re: "13 CIA operatives charged
By Craig Whitlock Washington Post
Berlin - German prosecutors issued arrest warrants for 13 agency operatives in the kidnapping of a German citizen in the Balkans in December 2003."
(2/1/2007 S.J. Mercury News)
"Ex- CIA official pleads not guilty
By Allison Hoffman A.P.
San Diego - Foggo, (ex CIA's executive director) now retired, pleaded not guilty to federal charges that he used that information to direct classified supply deals to his best friend, San Diego defense contractor Brent Wilkes."
(2/15/2007 San Jose Mercury News)
"Italy indicts CIA agents
26 Americans accused of kidnapping Egyptian cleric
By Colleen Barry A.P. "
(2/17/2007 San Jose Mercury News)
These are all old cases happened 20 months ago or in 2003. Suddenly they emerged in this month, along with Libby's case. I interpret this as an extortion on CIA. "Go find excuse for Iran war, or create some events for it. Otherwise some of you will be in jail by us law enforcers."
Cheney left US for Japan and Australia on 2/19. Since then Libby's case and CIA case are silent in media. I think a new plot is created. Cheney goes to Asia seeking support for Iran war from Japan and Australia. As for CIA, there will be big events in Mid-east, or Europe, or both to justify an attack on Iran. We knew Madrid bombing, London bombing already.
I am afraid that Prince Harry will be a sacrifice in this plot. The news of his military presence in Iraq is unusually propagated. His death could have been an important justification for Iran war.
kathaksung
Mar 12th, 2007, 5:10 PM
470. Strong EM wave radiation and February plot (3/3/07)
In last post, I said the Feds didn't take a break and is going on with new plot. I was right. There was another plot planned to take place in February 27.
In last post, I worried about they would sacrifice Prince Harry to justify a new war. I was right. They planned war by sacrifice of celebrities' lives.
Re: "Cheney Targeted in Afghan Blast
Associated Press | February 27, 2007
BAGRAM, Afghanistan - A suicide bomber killed and wounded some two dozen people outside the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan on Tuesday during a visit by Vice President Dick Cheney. The Taliban claimed responsibility and said Cheney was the target. "
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,126678,00.html
In previous messages, I alleged there would be international financial crisis came with the terror attack. I was right. This time the Inside Group prepared a big fall on global stock market. On February 27, the China's stock market dropped 8,8%. Japan and US stock market lost more than 3% that day. So were Hongkong and other countries.(U.K., India, Australia.....) They all had a significant loss in stock index.
Cheney's trip to Afghanistan was unnecessary and unplanned.
Re: "US says Cheney wasn't target of Afghan attack.
By Griff Witte Washington Post
WASHINGTON - A purported Taliban spokesman asserted responsibility for a suicide bomb attack Tuesday at the main US air base in Afghanistan and said it was an attempt to assassinate Vice President Dick Cheney. But US officials disputed the claim, stating that Cheney's overnight stay at the sprawling Bagram Air Base had been unplanned and that he was well away from the blast."
(San Jose Mercury News 2/28/07)
Was Cheney well away from the blast?
He himself said "I heard a loud boom" than was moved promptly to a bomb shelter.
Is it true that Cheney wasn't target of Afghan attack?
How could the Taliban spokesman claim they targeted at Cheney? The claim came with the news of bombing. (see the above news right on the day of Feb. 27.) Obviously it was pre-prepared. Do you think the bombing happened at Bagram Air Base was a coincidence that Cheney happened to take an unplanned visit there?
Why US deny Cheney was not targeted one day later?
On Feb 27 the authority said the bombing proved Taliban infiltrated the intelligence. Do you believe Taliban has so remarkable ability? It only proves Al Qaida, as I always said, is a tool manipulated by US intelligence. They do whatever the intelligence want them to do. Cheney's unplanned visit may not be aware by high ranking US officials, how could Taliban knew it and prepared a bombing attack in a very short time? US denied that Cheney was not the target one day later because there were many flaws in this soured plot. A real investigation would have found the root of a plot of false flag attack. So they cover it up as a random attack coincide with Cheney's visit. Otherwise there will be an investigation on their own: the Secret Service, CIA, Pentagon. They will use the "Al Qaida infiltrate the intelligence" as a justification for the next assassination. There is still Prince Harry there.
I have personal experience that each time they planing a plot, the Feds always planned framed case or elimination on me. There is no exception in this February plot.
Feb.17 is Chinese New Year eve. My family member had a re-union dinner in San Francisco. I didn't go.
Then on Feb. 24, my parents and other family members and relatives came to my home, invited me for a dinner to a restaurant. I refused too. I know Feds used to frame an arrest in such occasion.
That night and the next night (Feb 25), there was a strong EM wave radiation shooting on me. I slept behind metal plate, the radiation was so strong that it penetrate the thin metal plates. I could feel uncomfortable, unusual feeling at my face when the radiation was applied on me. I was afraid I might be fatally hurt by this strong radiation that on Feb 26, I moved to sitting room and slept there. My bedroom shares the wall with neiborhood and I allege the strong radiation were from there. The sitting room is seperated from it with laundry room and heating furnace.
It was better after I moved the sleeping place. (though they still shoot the EM wave) Next day (Feb 27), I heard the Cheney case and stock market case. Normally, innocent people may have died after being shoot by this EM wave radiation the whole night. How could they know they must protect themselves by metal shield? I survived with my knowledge and experience. Feds must have killed many people with such a weapon. I am so grief and indignation with the people who were murdered by this fascist "law enforcement agency".
kathaksung
Mar 22nd, 2007, 3:26 PM
471. The death related to EM wave radiation (3/8/07)
I started to recognize it probably was the house that caused the Feds' persecution on me when someone suggested to exchange his house with mine in early 90s. (see #278 - #282)
Then in March, 2000, after I complained to US embassy in Thailand alleged that FBI manipulated bank practice of remittance, I found there was an attempt to frame me in drug case.(see: #37, 49, 50, 51)
I was in panic and had to seek political asylum from Thailand Foreign Ministry. It only intensified the persecution. So I left Thailand for Laos. Re: "About in early April, 2000, when I was still in panic mood of Thailand event, I read a news from a Chinese newspaper that FBI director Freeh would resign from his post, because FBI abused their power to a man whom bought a house which FBI wanted. It was a strange news. I had a strong feeling the article was for me (actually Freeh stayed in the post until one year later he resigned again when FBI signed a secret deal with China to frame a big drug case. see #61 - 64) It proved my early suspicion that the persecution was due to the house.
In July 2000, when I got back to my home in US, I checked the document in house deal. In it there is a death certificate of the former landlord. ( I took over the mortgage loan from the seller - a widow, but one of the joint borrower had died so they had to prove it with document) He works for US Navy when he was alive. He was in his 30s when He died.
The death was caused by:
immediate cause (A) Probable pulmonary embolus.
Due to. or as a consequence of (B) Thrombophlebitis of leg
I checked the dictionary and learned that former landlord died of clot formed in leg which then blocked the blood to lung. It proves my allegation that former landlord died of a covert murder - microwave killing. Though I don't know what was the motive to murder him, it's unusual he died so young. (in his 30s) The tactic of murder was a skill I am familiar to - microwave killing. (see #5. Microwave killing)
After hours of low dose of microwave radiation, the blood cell gradually died and formed clots. When the clots moved to lung and blocked the artery, the lung collapsed. When it moves to heart, a heart attack happens. When it moves to brain, then it's a stroke.
Why the clot originates from leg? I think the Feds used to install the killing device in engine room. It's easy to be installed there and hard to be discovered. (used to be guised as parts?) Foot to control the pedal is the nearest to the microwave source. Or they deliberately to shoot on people's leg because the foot is less sensitive than the head and hands. Victim is hard to feel it when the microwave is applied on the leg.
Quote, "Cheney treated for blood clot in his leg
POSTED: 5:37 p.m. EST, March 5, 2007
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Doctors found a blood clot in Vice President Dick Cheney's left leg Monday, Cheney's office said.
Doctors performed an ultrasound and found a deep venous thrombosis, or DVT.
Complications from DVT kill up to 200,000 people in the United States each year, but the clots can be easily treated through medication.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/05/cheney.health/index.html
On March 5, when the TV news reported Cheney's blood clot story, (local Chinese TV), I was surprised at the striking resemblance of the broadcaster's description about the blood clot with mine. She said the blood clot formed in leg. "When the clots moved to lung and blocked the artery, the lung collapsed. When it moves to heart, a heart attack happens. When it moves to brain, then it's a stroke." The only difference was she said doctors thought it was probably caused by lacking of movement after long air travel.
Was this the only long air travel Cheney took?
No, I think recently he at least took one to Riyad.to arrange an Iraqi civil war. There seemed no problem of blood clot then.
Was Air force No. 2 a small plane?
No, I think it was not as narrow as the normal economic seat commercial air line used to offer. I am sure it's much, much spacious then any first class cabinet.
Was time sensitive in this case.
Yes, Vice President Cheney was arranged an unplanned visit to Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan where he encountered a bombing. Will he suspect on that? What will intelligence do after their plot went soured?
Also it was at the ending of Libby's CIA leaking case. Libby said he was the sacrifice. Would it be better to have such an ending similar to Kenneth Lay's death in Enron case? The Libby verdict came one day after Cheney's clot story.
Ningishiddza
Mar 24th, 2007, 9:27 AM
LONDON (Nov. 29)
Authorities grounded three British Airways jetliners in London and Moscow on Wednesday and drew up plans to contact thousands of passengers.
High doses of polonium-210 - a rare radioactive element usually manufactured in specialized nuclear facilities - were found in Litvinenko's body, and traces of radiation have been found at sites in London connected with the investigation of his death.
Suckers.
Polonium-210 is commercially available. You can buy it on the internet, and no, it isn't always "manufactured in specialized nuclear facilities."
If any of you had bothered to read the reports from the senate hearings on the collapse of the USSR, you'd know the CIA got it right, even though they didn't predict the exact minute and second the USSR would collapse.
You'd also know that the CIA has predicted that Russia will break up further into 8-10 states. Unless, that is, the Russian leaders take actions to prevent that. The funny thing is that whenever Putin does exactly what he needs to do to prevent the collapse of Russia, he gets slammed by the Bush-Cheney-Blair Chain.
Certainly you all know that the CIA is funding the Chechnyan rebels through Pakistan. I guess everyone missed the fact that even though Chechnyan rebels are all over Afghanistan, not one of them has ever been a detainee at Guantanamo.
It was Chechnyan rebels who were with bin Laden and al-Qaida at Tora Bora when he escaped (via helicopters flying non-stop evac operations from Pakistan).
And now we learn that Litvinenko was a con-artist and blackmailer. He probably had something on Boris the Jew Berezovsky and/or the Jew Nevzlin who fled to Israel to avoid prosecution for murdering a mayor.
Jews, international bankers, oil & natural gas, well, none of that has anything to do with Putin.
kathaksung
Mar 31st, 2007, 6:58 PM
472. Radio frequency weapon that causes vomit (3/13/07)
Statement by
Lieutenant General Robert L. Schweitzer
U.S. Army (Retired)
before the
Joint Economic Committee
United States Congress
June 17, 1997
Radio Frequency Weapons and the Infrastructure
Low cost per engagement
All weather
Instantaneous engagement times
Simplified pointing and tracking
Possible to engage multiple targets
Deep magazines-simplified logistics (can "fire" or pulse as long as there is power in the generator)
Non-lethal to humans when properly adjusted
Well suited to covert operations because of lack of signature; deniability
Not able to detect attacks; silent when used without explosive devices
http://www.house.gov/jec/hearings/espionag/schweitz.htm
The radio Frequency weapons here are the one I referred as EM wave weapon. (Electro-magnetic wave).
Watch the last three advantages of that weapon General Schweitzer said. In fact, it becomes a lethal weapon the Feds frequently used to murder American people. Because it lacks of signature; being deniability; not able to detect attacks. I must add one more point, it is a preferable murder weapon because the death resembles to natural disease.
In normal life, many device works on EM-wave: radio broadcast; TV; microwave oven, mobile phone; radar..... There are different usage for different frequency EM wave. So was it when it used as a weapon.
To my experience, one imitates sleeping wave which can force people going to sleep. The other one is microwave killing device which create blood clot to develop the death like heart attack, stroke or lung collapse. Microwave radiation also cause Leukemia.
Here is another one used as a punishment. It caused the dizzy, nausea and vomit.
In later 1980s or early 1990s, (I don't remember the exact time), I had been sick several times. The uncomfortable feeling was so bad, but lasts very short time. It always ended with vomit. I didn't suspect anything else then.
It was until mid 1990s, when Reno (the Attorney General of Clinton era) had a dispute with FBI director Louis Freeh. (Reno denied a propose from Freeh to have an investigation on something (about Clinton?)) I realized there was such a weapon. At that time, I got more familiar about the Feds. I knew there was EM wave weapon. I alleged former FBI director Sessions who refused to give up his seat to Louis Freeh was punished by the EM wave weapon. He fell and broke his elbow the day before he was fired. So I speculated, would Reno be punished too? I was right. Soon there came the news that Reno collapsed in an open meeting when she made a speech in the stage. (I remember it was in Mexico?) She said she was dizzy and sick.
I suddenly remembered the unusual vomit I had years ago. That was the only vomits happened in decades. It came sudden and left sudden. It happened without any reasonable cause. I also recalled that years ago, the former President Bush Sr. (George W. Bush's father) had once collapsed in a banquet. (in Japan?) He collapsed on a neighbor guest and vomited. I realized there was an EM wave weapon that causes sick and vomit.
In April, 1999, I was in Hongkong to start my South-east Asia drift. Same thing happened to Mrs. Chen Fang An Shen - a top government official in Hongkong. She collapsed on her neighbor official in a meeting. The doctor said later that it was caused by the maladjustment of her balancing liquid in the ear.
In these three cases, all the victims were high ranking government officials. They were punished because they did something disfavored by the Feds. I noticed there was a similarity in these cases. They all took place in open places. In a meeting or a state banquet. In such occurrence, there were a lot of media people. It's easy to install a EM wave device in a camera. When the camera man focus on the face of the target, the EM wave ray also shoot at his head. The particular frequency set to disturb the balance liquid in the ear of the target. The result was the sick and vomit of the victim.
My conclusion soon was proved by another event. I even saw the camera and its handler with my own eyes.
kathaksung
Apr 11th, 2007, 6:37 PM
473. EM wave torture (3/18/07)
On 1/24/2000, I arrived at Seal Ream, a town famous with its history site - Ankor wah. A young man picked me up at the bus station and sent me to a Guest House by the motorcycle. It was a common way for transportation in Cambodia.
On 1/25, I came across with him at the reception hall. He offered me a "One day tour" for next day. The bargain included an extra tour. He would ride me to visit Ankor Wah later that day (1/25), because after four o'clock, according to him, the authority wouldn't check the ticket. So I only need to buy one day's permission on 1/26. And I could spent the whole day on other interesting temples. There were about a dozen of them. He showed me the tourist map.
I accepted the deal. About four o'clock, he rid me to the Ankor Wah. He dropped me at the entrance, said I could find him at a tea house nearby. So I went into the temple alone. It was late afternoon, tourists were leaving. I am the only one going the opposite way. I visited the temple with a tourist book. At last I got to the top of Ankor Wah.
It was dusk. I sat on a stone, watching the beautiful sunset, I felt homesick. It was ten months since I drifted in South-east Asia. Though Ankoh Wah was a famous history site, I came here not as a tourist but a refugee to escape the persecution from the Feds. How absurd, a so said democratic country was a so dark country.
Just then I felt a noise, like something moving inside my ear. I felt a little dizzy and sick. I turned around, saw two western men about ten feet away behind me. One held a film camera which was pretty a big one, the other one carried a wooden box which I thought was for battery. The camera seemed aiming at sunset but I knew it was at me. We were on same direction and I was in the middle. I immediately left the Ankoh Wah, left the beautiful sight view which I enjoyed so much.
Next morning I visited other temples until to the Ta Prohm. It was as interesting as Ankor Wah. The temple was kept in its original condition when it was discovered. The giant trees grew up on the temple ruins. Its root stretched in the gap of the big stones. The mood was so ancient and mysterious that some film took it as background. Then I saw that two camera men again. I had to left Ta Prohm earlier to avoid an EM wave torture.
It was before noon. The young man suddenly said the tour was finished. Most temples he introduced the day before hadn't been visited yet. He denied he had made a promise. I couldn't force him to continue. Then why did he gave me two rides that could be done in one day? The road to Ankor Wah was on the same journey to other temples. It was overlapped.
I then knew he must be from secret police of Cambodian. Ankor Wah is a hot travel spot. There used to be a lot of tourists there. To avoid other tourist disturbing the EM wave shooting, the secret police planned a bargain deal at dusk. They almost succeeded if I was not aware of their secret weapon. They did succeed in one thing. That evening on top of Ankor Wah, there were only three people: Me, a potential victim and two men of Feds - special handler of EM wave ray.
On 1/28, I was in Phnom Penh. I joined a local tour. I visited killing field, then to a concentration camp -Tuol Sleng - where Comah Raug (Spelling? Cambodia communist Party) killed several thousand prisoners there. I watched the jail cell, victims' pictures and then, to a room where torture tool displayed. I met with the two camera men for the third time. They already have set up their camera there, aimed at the display torture tool. If the target stood down to watch, a button would be pushed and a real torture would happen. I passed the exhibition without any delay.
It's a sarcasm that the Feds planned a torture at a site where they accuse others committing the torture crime. When this government claim Saddam torture people, kill civilians, I never took it seriously. Because it did same thing.
A totalitarian country does the torture and kill because the system allows them do it openly. So we know it.
A "democratic" country such like US does same thing but rare people knows because they developed a system to do it covertly. Although there is a constitution to restrain it namely, step by step, the Feds are not satisfy with "do it covertly". They try to make it legally by Patriot Act and "War on terror", by Guantanamo and "enemy combatant".
When CIA and Pentagon make "waterboarding" a legal interrogation technic, I can't help to think of the torture room in Tuol Sleng. Though I didn't stop to watch the torture tool display, I knew one tool is a big water box used to choke victim's breathe. (From the picture illustration before the display room) What's the difference between Comah Roug (spelling?) and the Feds?
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