iron hammer(140 million years old)? [Archive]

uki

Jan 29th, 2007, 7:55 PM

DontBeAfraid

Jan 29th, 2007, 8:11 PM

ah yes.... ONE anamoly refutes everything, thats how common sense works.....

and hasnt this hammer already been proven to be a fake anyways? Like 3 years ago when it was first "uncovered"

Cartesiantheater

Jan 29th, 2007, 9:13 PM

Crock. (http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm)

Again uki, you've fallen for psuedo science... or you simply haven't researched the OPPOSITION to a link you find... This is expected from someone who rejects science... because scientists RESEARCH THE OPPOSITION because they are held to HIGH standards in regards to their hypotheses... There isn't any real evidence at all that this hammer is ancient.

However, the lack of sharp marks on the nodule seems to confirm the reports that it was found loose and not chiseled from a larger rock.

Not chiseled? How the hell can that be? unless... wait! It wasn't actually embeded! It was just covered in lose rock to make it LOOK like it was embeded!

In view of these considerations, It seems highly unlikely that the hammer was ever a natural part of the nearby Cretaceous beds, and more likely that it was dropped or discarded by a local miner or craftsman within the last few hundred years. It's also possible that the nodule was brought or washed into the area from some distance away, or from a higher stratum.

uki

Jan 29th, 2007, 9:23 PM

hey didn't find the damn thing nor did i write the article. but it's a treat, eh?

Cartesiantheater

Jan 29th, 2007, 9:25 PM

hey didn't find the damn thing nor did i write the article. but it's a treat, eh?

Yeah... it's STILL an interesting thing uki... apologies... I was being defensive due to our debate in the "back to school" thread...

Xreal

Jan 30th, 2007, 2:37 AM

I dont think these where people, history repeat itself. We human beings have been here for 30.000 years, soon there might be an armageddon or nuclear war.

its very possible man only exists for 30.000 years. that hamer could have belonged to anything else.

Xreal

Jan 30th, 2007, 3:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMLMEttgyEk&NR

Jan 30th, 2007, 9:53 AM

HHHHHaa I would guess that rust would have become serious a problem after the first 1000 years......hell I'm lucky to make my car last 10.

B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

Jan 30th, 2007, 10:59 AM

this kinda rearranges the history books... http://pandorasfiles.com/article100.htm imagine that, man co-existing with dinosaurs... but wait, that's impossible!! science has established that man was not around with the dinosaurs?!?!?!?! which is the truth? who is lying? hahahahahaha!!! it's getting better everyday. It DOES rearrange the history books! It PROVES that the Analnaki DID have "advanced" technology such as IRON HAMMERS! Some dots are easier to connect than others! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! It's getting better every day!

Crock. Again uki, you've fallen for psuedo science... or you simply haven't researched the OPPOSITION to a link you find... This is expected from someone who rejects science... because scientists RESEARCH THE OPPOSITION because they are held to HIGH standards in regards to their hypotheses... There isn't any real evidence at all that this hammer is ancient.
Well done, CT. See how easy it is to refute ANYthing that weasel says?

uki

Jan 30th, 2007, 11:08 AM

Well done, CT. See how easy it is to refute ANYthing that weasel says? all the logic and scientific reasoning, proof, evidence and what not discover the same truth on can do so by the exact opposite approach. truth is the inflection point of reason. the closer we get to that point(the truth), the more we realize that opposites compliment each other. opposites attract. you're approach represents one end of the stick, my approach, the other.

Jan 30th, 2007, 11:31 AM

Jesus Uki! read back to yourself what you just posted....

lazserus

Jan 30th, 2007, 12:00 PM

all the logic and scientific reasoning, proof, evidence and what not discover the same truth on can do so by the exact opposite approach. truth is the inflection point of reason. the closer we get to that point(the truth), the more we realize that opposites compliment each other. opposites attract. you're approach represents one end of the stick, my approach, the other.

Jesus Uki! read back to yourself what you just posted....
I think I lost some braincells trying to figure that first part out. Who wants to watch Land Before Time?

Jan 30th, 2007, 12:10 PM

Twilight zone.....with a bad script.

jeffweeder

Jan 31st, 2007, 4:23 AM

Is it true that dinos have been found, where this hammer has been found?.

Its possible for things to be fossilised like this hammer has, in a very quick period of time,
Ive seen teddy bears fossiled as though they look very old like a drip by drip staligmite.-tite.

Man had all the intelligence he needed, when he first became aware...

How old are teddy bears?

I can find those pics?

Skynet12

Jan 31st, 2007, 5:13 AM

god created dinos, then man. not to coexist. face it, guys!:alcoholic

B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

Jan 31st, 2007, 9:59 AM

all the logic and scientific reasoning, proof, evidence and what not discover the same truth on can do so by the exact opposite approach. truth is the inflection point of reason. the closer we get to that point(the truth), the more we realize that opposites compliment each other. opposites attract. you're approach represents one end of the stick, my approach, the other.

Blaaaah blah blaaaah... blah blahblahblaha...
Iron hammers with wooden handles!
So much for your ADVANCED civilization of the Analnaki...
BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
All too easy...

you're approach represents one end of the stick, my approach, the other.
And YOUR end of the stick is what we refer to as the "SHORT END"...

Becks

Feb 18th, 2007, 1:59 AM

I think I lost some braincells trying to figure that first part out. Who wants to watch Land Before Time?

Yep, yep, yep!

BTW, I want my hammer back! - signed, The 140 Million Year Old Virgin

Cartesiantheater

Feb 18th, 2007, 6:04 PM

Yep, yep, yep!

BTW, I want my hammer back! - signed, The 140 Million Year Old Virgin

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice.....

Brad Smith

Apr 24th, 2007, 3:10 PM

We know that T. Rex lived millions of years ago--and there are only two dozen or so fossilized skeletons in the world today. Maybe more. While I have my doubts about this hammer . . . I do believe that the human species is far older than what modern science says.

I believe that humans have been on this world for millions of years. I believe that human civilization has risen and fallen several times over. I think that's why we have stories about Atlantis and other lost civilizations.

But that's just my umvelt.

Traveler

May 1st, 2007, 4:13 AM

Just a thought

You have all heard of the story of Noah's flood.

To build an ark like that requires a certain amount of infrastructure and tools capable of machining wood with straight lines so as to make a proper fit.

Lashing some poles together with rope just won't make the grade.

You need the industry to make the tools in the first place.

DontBeAfraid

May 1st, 2007, 12:35 PM

Traveler

May 1st, 2007, 7:32 PM

No I'm on topic.

That hammer was found where it was found. It is artificially manufactured. There had to be some form of industry to do it.

I have given one explanation.

Another explanation is that it was left behind by a geological survey team from an alien civilization that happened to be visiting earth in the dim and distant past.

Now are you going to come up with an idea of how it got there or are you going to follow normal procedure and deny that it actually got deposited in the strata so long ago because it doesn't fit the expected theory's.

DontBeAfraid

May 1st, 2007, 7:41 PM

So the story of noahs ark is about a flood that happened 140 million years ago? Come on flake.

Story of the hammer:

Dirty christian fraud.

OR

Retarded christian interpretation.

look it up, the situtaion was proven to be fabricated.

Traveler

May 3rd, 2007, 2:15 AM

So you going to follow normal procedure and deny that it actually got deposited in the strata so long ago because it doesn't fit the expected theory's.

jeffweeder

May 3rd, 2007, 2:59 AM

Theory is the correct word.
The poor bars are wrong thats all.

Fresh dino meat wont be good enough either.

The history of a people that recorded embarrasing things about themselves , only because they believed God told them to write it ,seems to go in one ear and out the other also.

Yet the script of the book with its people and that land seems to go from strength to strength.

The burned out mountain in the middle of Arabia, with the split rock, and evidence of water gushing forth seems not worth considering.....yet no logical explanation can be given for it.

Something is happening here and you dont know (well you do now) what it is do you Mr Jones.

DontBeAfraid

May 3rd, 2007, 5:38 AM

So you going to follow normal procedure and deny that it actually got deposited in the strata so long ago because it doesn't fit the expected theory's.
OY!

Theory is the correct word.The theory of time? The theory of half lifes? Which theory?

B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

May 4th, 2007, 3:01 PM

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm

Cartesiantheater

May 4th, 2007, 3:06 PM

So you going to follow normal procedure and deny that it actually got deposited in the strata so long ago because it doesn't fit the expected theory's.

Did you even bother to read the posts before yours? Or the link labled "Crock?" (btw, this link is reposted later in the thread)

The hammer is a FAKE. There is NO evidence that it is genuine, and plenty that it ISN'T.

The normal procedure is to examine the evidence and then determine the legitimacy of given hypotheses. The evidence has been examined, and sorry to say it turns out that the hammer is much more likely a FAKE than genuine.

B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

May 4th, 2007, 3:46 PM

August_Sonereal

Jun 11th, 2007, 7:46 PM

ah yes.... ONE anamoly refutes everything, thats how common sense works.....

and hasnt this hammer already been proven to be a fake anyways? Like 3 years ago when it was first "uncovered"

It was uncovered by using the same hammer to get itself out of the ground (think about that for a minute, my cousin did)

DontBeAfraid

Jun 11th, 2007, 11:22 PM

lol.... and now I wish I hadnt giveen yo unegative feedback, so I could give some positive.

Traveler

Jul 4th, 2007, 12:55 AM

It's pure hypocrisy how Traveler talks about and criticizes things not "fitting" the expected theories while simultaneously and naively believing in this hammer simply because it "fits" the creation model. Also funny how the geologic column is totally bogus unless it can be used to "prove" shit like this hammer. IDIOT...

No this statement of yours is the one that is unwarranted.

This is far from the only artifact that has been found that is out of place.

On the one hand you have the person who found it telling us where and how he found it. But then you get all the experts that were not there diplomatically calling him a lire. The attitude is that it can't be correct so there must be another explanation for it, so here it is and you will all dutifully accept it and ridicule anyone who says otherwise.

Its like calling a UFO swamp gas. The fact that it was traveling against the wind at high speed just gets left out. It's swamp gas and everyone must repeat that or the credibility card gets drawn.

What a load of crock!

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