Who is God?

[MagnetMan]

Now consider this: If there were nothing but silence it wouldn’t exist for you; wouldn’t know what it is. Only when sound appears does silence come into being. Similarly if there were only space without any objects in space, it wouldn’t exist for you. Imagine yourself as a point of consciousness floating in the vastness of space --- no stars, no galaxies, just emptiness. Suddenly space wouldn’t be vast anymore; it would not be there at all. There would be no speed, no movement from here to there. At least to reference points are needed for distance and space to come into being. Space comes into being the moment the One becomes two, and as the two becomes “the ten thousand” things as Lao Tse calls the manifested world, space becomes more and more vest. So world and space arise simultaneously.

Nothing could be without space, yet space is nothing. Before the “big bang” if you like, there wasn’t a vast empty space waiting to be filled. There was no space, as there was no thing. There was only the Unmanifested --- the One. When the One become “the ten thousand things” suddenly space seemed to be there and enabled the many to be. Where did it come from? Was it created by God to accommodate the universe? Of course not. Space is no-thing, so it was never created.

Go out on a clear night and look up at the sky. The thousands of stars you can see with your naked eye are no more than an infinitesimal fraction of what is there. Over a 100 billion galaxies can already be detected with the most powerful telescopes, each galaxy an “island universe” with billions of stars. Yet what is even more awe-inspiring is the infinity of space itself, the depth and stillness that allows all of the magnificence to be. Nothing could be more awe-inspiring then the inconceivable vastness and stillness of space, and yet what is it? Emptiness, vast emptiness.

What appears to us as space in our universe perceived through the mind and the senses is the Unmanifested itself, externalized. It is the “body” of God. And the greatest miracle is this: That stillness and vastness that enables the universe to be is not just out there in space --- it is also within you. When you are utterly and totally present, you encounter it as the still inner space of no-mind. Within you it is vast in depth, not in extension. Spatial extension is ultimately a misperception of infinite depth --- an attribute of the one transcendental reality.

According to Einstein, space and time are not separate. I don’t really understand it, but I think he is saying that time is the fourth dimension of space. He calls it the “space-time continuum.”

Yes, what you perceive externally as space and time are ultimately illusory, but they contain a core of truth. They are the two essential attributes of God, infinity and eternity, perceived as if they had an external existence outside of you. Within you, both space and time have an inner equivalent that reveals their true nature, as well as your own. Whereas space is the still, infinitely deep realm of no-mind, the inner equivalent of time is presence, awareness of the eternal Now…(141 Power of Now-Eckhart Tolle)

[Traveler]

This is a subject that I have also thought a great deal about and it has gotten me into trouble on a few occasions.

God is spirit, Holy spirit, As the wind blows. In him all things that are exist. So that brings up the question of God the Father. My take is that God the Father is the personification of the Holy Spirit. A point of reference that enables the creation to have something tangible to direct their attention to.

But as we have a spiritual realm and a natural realm I am given to the idea of separate dimensions as well. The terms used to describe things in the scriptures may not always convey the exact meaning because humans tend to smother things in religiosity.

[MagnetMan]

This is a subject that I have also thought a great deal about and it has gotten me into trouble on a few occasions.

Forgive them for they know not what they do.

So that brings up the question of God the Father. My take is that God the Father is the personification of the Holy Spirit. A point of reference that enables the creation to have something tangible to direct their attention to.

Precisely. An impersonal God that is not directly connected to our lives and our thoughts and who is not a constant witness to every breath we breath, is therefore an alien and of no relevance to us. Such a god may as well not exist.

But as we have a spiritual realm and a natural realm I am given to the idea of separate dimensions as well.

The concept of separation is an illusion. God is omniscient. He is us and we are Him. Creation is his amusement. The Hindu's see creation as the Dance of Siva. I find thast beautiful.

The terms used to describe things in the scriptures may not always convey the exact meaning because humans tend to smother things in religiosity.

Both Testaments of the Bible are coded. On the surface they provided a literal explanation for ancient parents to answer the queries of their childtren regarding the mysteries of existence - before science evolved to give modern parents more precise answers.
I believe that the Torah, the five books of Moses were coded by Masters of the Kalballah. The allegorical import of those stories makes the Holy Scriptures timeless adult classics; as does like the codes hidden inside children's fairy tales Cracking the esoteric codes embedded in the stories of Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses can have a profoundly enlightening effect on the adult psyche. For instance: Every 40 year-old, lost in some meaningless desert and seeking more to life, should read Exodus more carefully.

The story of Noah and the Flood reveals mystical insights into the Cosmic Cycle. Endless codes are embedded in the story of a young carpenter from Nazareth who was cruelly crucified for daring to reveal hidden Truths.

[medicvet]

I would give anything just to be able to feel the presence of God..the loving presence of God.

[MagnetMan]

I would give anything just to be able to feel the presence of God..the loving presence of God.

Rama Krishna chanted the name of God continuously for ten years. He went through agonies of dispair before he and was finally granted that grace. Rest assured, we will all be graced in due time, saint and sinner alike.

Consider the following:

God is not an isolated individual.
He is an invisible composite of the entire atomic universe.
Every atom is imbued with and radiates His consciousness.
I call Him HE
for we know who SHE is
SHE is our universal mother
Matter embodied
pregnant with life

The invisible Presence of God
is essential to our social cohesion
HE represents an absolute standard
of uncorruptible goodness
Every child requires such a standard
as a monitor of growth

Since HE radiates His goodness within all of us
HE cannot be dismissed from our consciousness
His subtle presence is felt
with every uneasy trespass

To those who acknowledge Him
He brings the comfort of witness
to every breath we take
so we are never alone

Any society that dismissed Him
is by definition
left without a standard of goodness
and is doomed to inevitable corruption
_________________

[Sweetwilliam]

Since the prophets and apostles warned us that a great deception was coming and that is was alive and well in their times why not believe them?

SweetWilliam

[Smoke]

research the summerians, and their planets, IT will describe him

[Ningishiddza]

I would give anything just to be able to feel the presence of God..the loving presence of God.

Then you can start by seeing god. Look in the mirror.

[MagnetMan]

Then you can start by seeing god. Look in the mirror.

Well said, Nin.

Heisenberg has proved that the observer has an effect on the observed.
The metaphysician's position is that they are one and the same.

We are indeed Narcissis, staring at the mirror of our own reflection

[DontBeAfraid]

Heisenberg has proved that the observer has an effect on the observed.

Can I assume you know more than ust the name of the uncertainty principle?

[MagnetMan]

Can I assume you know more than ust the name of the uncertainty principle?

I can't be certain of course, but would say I have a high degree of probability.

[johnb1]

GOD? there are many gods but the one I know who create all good things is GOD THE FATHER
ALMIGHTY,GOD THE SON,GOD THE SPIRIT, I think that's all and I'm prohibited now to quote on the BIBLE to make this topic continue by not trolling again...

[DontBeAfraid]

John read the thread before you post in it! If you dont, then you are trolling.

[johnb1]

I have just read it and you were reading all our post to see some retard expression and explanations of it so that's why you get your post on the top score but in the other way you are just perfect as a balancing factor to all of us and a great stepping stone. <--DENY this?

Sometimes i get the point of your reasoning but most of them are more lame than my post so once again I am very sorry..THE TOPIC is WHO IS GOD...GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED ALL GOOD NATURAL THINGS that we attained and used in our life


*intheyearofkingtut's

[Nu Kua]

We are all life an expression of the creative force.
God can be felt in nature, the less untainted by human development, the better.
Which physicist is it who said god is to us like water to a fish?
Surrounds and permeates and is life-bearing.

[DontBeAfraid]

<--DENY this?

Write it in english And Ill know what Im denying...

THE TOPIC is WHO IS GOD...GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED ALL GOOD NATURAL THINGS that we attained and used in our life

The title is Who is god. Read the thread. And your god also created satan.

[johnb1]

Write it in english And Ill know what Im denying... The title is Who is god. Read the thread. And your god also created satan.

Write it in english <--- Why do you reply on my quote?

And Ill know what Im denying... <----Yes' you sure very know because you know yourself because it's you all I can see your sparking lame words that cannot help everybody in times of calamity and danger you selfish righteous guy..

I'm Sorry again I'm a human that will defend in A TRUE not BLIND Judicial LAW
that cannot be paid by money and incentive.....

Read the thread. <---That is why I answer in General Answer Mr. Right GUY

And your god also created satan.[/QUOTE]


Your wrong GO BACK TO YOUR BOOK master and let's read it together

HIS NAME IS LUCIFER and HE IS GOOD
SATAN THE NAME OF THE FALLEN ANGEL HE IS EVIL

Genesis 1:25

25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. <-- find the logic and sensible understanding in this passage..

THIS IS A NICE QUOTING ABOUT TRUE GOOD MEANING of STROLLING FOR BOTH OF US DON'T QUIT' I WILL TELL YOU A SECRET...and give me your best quote on your BOOK

[DontBeAfraid]

So god didnt create the angel lucifer?

[johnb1]

So god didnt create the angel lucifer?

Why Do you Ask me I thought you know the answer for the benefits in all of us. because you say I'm IDIOT<--Deny THIS?

I know the answer but I won't give it to you easily DIG the HISTORY just like US GENIUS of HARD WORK let others bring there opinions about this topic and let's have a good way of reasoning to all enlighten our hearts not mind only..I want to see an intelligent and wise answer to all of you that does not lead us to WAR but to unity and let's meet the halfway.

[DontBeAfraid]

Why Do you Ask me I thought you know the answer for the benefits in all of us.

I do know the "answer". Supposing that the bible is correct then your god created everything with the foreknowledge of every moment of its existence and your god did so with absolute intent. So your god created all the evil in existance.... along with everything else.

[johnb1]

I do know the "answer". Supposing that the bible is correct then your god created everything with the foreknowledge of every moment of its existence and your god did so with absolute intent. So your god created all the evil in existance.... along with everything else.

So your god created all the evil in existance.... along with everything else.


READ AGAIN AND THINK MORE AND DEEPLY LIKE A MAZE PUZZLE

Genesis 1:25

25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. <-- find the logic and sensible understanding in this passage..


Did GOD Created LUCIFER? YES and it's GOOD

but<----IN LOGICAL SENSE

LUCIFER ENVY and BECAME SATAN and became a FALLEN ANGEL...

So your god created all the evil in existence.... along with everything else. IT IS SATAN MADE IT NOT LUCIFER

Reconstruct and Rephrase your words and it will be answer by your own WORDS



god created everything with the foreknowledge of every moment of its existence and your god did so with absolute intent

1 Peter 1:2

2who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

Acts 2:23

23This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[a] put him to death by nailing him to the cross.


did so with absolute intent <---ASK THE BIBLE and GOD and I will read ONLY

I Hope I want to add more verses but the other's will accused me again BIBLE SPAMMER

[DontBeAfraid]

And God saw that it was good.

So your god thinks evil is good.

There is no foreknowledge written in the BIBLE

So your god is not omniscient? For this conversation to proceed you must tell me your definition of god. Is it all powerful? Does it know everything?

[johnb1]

So your god thinks evil is good.

So your god is not omniscient? For this conversation to proceed you must tell me your definition of god. Is it all powerful? Does it know everything?

1st

So god didnt create the angel lucifer?

We are not over yet with this <----- but remember the topic is WHO IS GOD

So your god thinks evil is good.<---Where can you read that on your BOOK or in THE BIBLE? Proved to US....

So your god is not omniscient? Don't MAKE ANOTHER QUESTION we are not CLEAR YET Don't escape the first Question we are not TRU yet because it is very long way to PROVED it and I know you know it too?

Does it know everything? <---- Don't be rattle and nervous' relax it's just a question to clarify the TOPIC but let's make and give way to other's because we are now Strolling the thread' they will get annoy in me again' I say Good explanations and you say BAD commentary to all of US when we quote something..

Don't try to fool the audience they are smart too to read and analyze especially to all the fair MODERATORS and ADMIN HERE and I have just proved that yesterday that They are the FINEST ADMINS and MODERATORS in this FORUM..

1. GATHERING
2. ANALYZING
3. CODING
4. DEBUGGING
5. DUMPING
6. REJECTING
7. Back to 1

So your god is not omniscient? <--- A BIBLE DEFINITIONS and A DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS

Back to the TOPIC: GOD IS LOVE AND HARMONY and PEACE

[DontBeAfraid]

Where can you read that on your BOOK or in THE BIBLE?

I have no book, Im agnostic.

Don't MAKE ANOTHER QUESTION we are not CLEAR YET Don't escape the first Question

The answer to this question is very important in answering the first question. If you believe your god is omniscient and omnipotent then you cannot claim that it did not create evil.

Don't be rattle and nervous' relax it's just a question to clarify the TOPIC but let's a give way to other's because we are now Strolling thread' they will get annoy in me again'

Actually this is the first time you havemanaged to make posts even slightly related to the threads topic.

I say Good explanations and you say BAD commentary to all of US when we quote something..

Who is "all of us"?

Don't try to fool the audience they are smart too to read and analyze especially to all the fair MODERATORS and ADMIN HERE and have just proved that yesterday that They are the FINEST ADMIN and MODERATORS in this FORUM..

They are also smart enough to know when an idiot is kissing ass. Try t ostay on topic here.

Back to the TOPIC: GOD IS LOVE AND HARMONY and PEACE

And hate and Chaos and war.

If your god is omnipotent and omniscient then it created the pleasure AND the pain. If it didnt create the pain and cant alleviate the pain then it is no omnipotent.

[johnb1]

Why do you have no BOOK you say Do you DENY your GROUP ORG. that you believe in?
Don't try to escape the other QUESTION it is not clarify yet your 1st Question will be answer more your jumping again and losing your cool bro' relax have nice herbal tea to sooth your feelings..your words are not helping the TOPIC to CLARIFY...your words is more lame than mine
I'm Sorry.

I think for my self after reading and seeing nature the best question for that is:

WHO is ME?
WHO really is myself?
WHY I am HERE?
WHY I'm ME?

Back to the Topic : GOD is on the Signature of my POST

You are Stroll Boy spammer and I too you have been overwhelmed to much by yourself and rep.
Do Not underestimate the poor and sick retard Idiot boy undeniable words will overflow just let the other
make their opinions...

Good vs Bad = Balancing factor = To Reach in HEAVEN of GOD ALMIGHTY
GOD VS SATAN = ARMAGEDDON
SHINING BRIGHT LIGHT VS FALSE NOT BRIGHT LIGHT