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Sep 4th, 2007 6:29 PM #1Beyond Extinct
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The Origins Of Human Warfare
“And Cain rose up against Abel his brother and slew him”
Petty clan vendettas escalated into:
National wars
World wars
Mass genocide
and Weapons of Mass Destruction
We have discussed in the thread on the Warrior Gene, how the lion challenge made us form guilds of lion fighters, which in turn became warrior regiments who engaged in clan vendettas. Now let us discuss how petty clan warfare escalated into outright war and how that initiated a New Iron Age of national industry and scriptural orthodoxy.
After the lions were conquered, domesticated herds grew in numbers and strayed across clan borders. Territorial disputes between brother clans escalated into militant confrontations.
This meant that former lion fighting guilds had to reform and devise new protective tactics. The broad-bladed lion-fighting spear was transformed into a slim javelin meant for throwing. The future community commitments of pubertal initiates were re-focused and re-assigned into communal service as border policemen. As populations expanded and border clashes increased in intensity, clans invaded each other’s territory and fought for hegemony. In succeeding generations cattle raiding and hostages held for ransom became part of the Bronze Age economic equation. With the fortunes of one group or the other waxing and waning, clan vendettas became as much an entrenched way of life as lion fighting had been, earlier in the Age.
Smaller clans survived through marriage alliances with larger clans; fealty payments of cattle and concubines served to hold together shifty relationships for a generation or two. But the more crowded the land became, so too did the conflicts intensify. Totemic superiority became more entrenched.
For the first time in creation, intra-species aggression of an escalating nature entered the cosmic equation. Nature’s ancient code of honor was broken. Billions of years of natural evolution, governed and protected by the universal ethic of territorial integrity that barred each species from warring on itself, had come to an end.
Wealth and power among the larger clans gave rise to a sense of totemic pride and social prestige. Clans interpreted their success as the “special favors” secured of gods by their ancestral spirits, symbolized and enthroned at the top of the clan totem pole - just as religious symbols were in later times. The innate guilt of trespass was buried in the consciousness and artificially assuaged via totemic assertion. If the neighbors were weaker, it was obvious that the gods were not with them. In this primitive mind-set, mankind gradually lost his love for neighbor and Cain excused himself from the sin of murdering his brother.
Clan vendettas never evolved in regional isolation. Every Bronze Age society across the planet ended up feuding, head-hunting, concubine abduction, rape, ransom, cattle-raiding, totemic supremacy … it was pandemic. And the situation got more chaotic as the Age came to a conclusion.
I will pause here and open the subject up for comments and discussion before continuing with the escalation of war. Since war is on the front page at the moment and this thread is leading towards how we got so embroiled in it, I am hopeful of hearing some personal observations from you.
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Sep 6th, 2007 12:17 PM #2Beyond Extinct
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In a Bronze Age matrix of fixed custom and oral-based indoctrination, mass change could not be initiated through any existing form of social negotiation. Though loose federations were formed between one or more clans, the force that held them together was never strong enough to break
down an entrenched clan-centered mindset and to coalesce into a national consensus of thought and direction. Each clan had an ancestral lineage; its own clan totem and its own oral tradition. Each claimed an exclusive right to divine origin. That imprinted belief in its own exceptional destiny formed the foundation of each clan’s collective identity; any further evolution of social consciousness was faced with an impregnable psychological barrier that, unlike any physical boundary, could not be invaded and held to ransom.
Men refuse change on principle, no matter how chaotic conditions are.
Before a New Age consciousness could come into being some form of supernatural intervention had to manifest itself in order to break the mold: the birth of an entirely new vision, a new age of thought, a new form of social government, a new method of economic distribution; a more embracing spiritual focus had to be initiated among an entire population and put into single-minded action.
This time, making the social transition from clannish farmer to national industrialist would be far more abrupt and infinitely more traumatic than the change from hunter to farmer. In order to effect an accompanying spiritual change, a pantheon of pagan gods, and an oral-based mind-set
of totemic superstitions and shaman mediumship had to be replaced by the rigid dogma of script-based indoctrination. The collective psyche had to be extended beyond communication with dead ancestors. It had to be re-focused and forced to bow to the supreme power of a single jealous wrathful Godhead, and a new spiritual contract between birth and death had to be drafted and administered by ordained scribes. But before the new scripture could be initiated, a more immediate force than the written word needed to be born: a Messiah, to smash down the clan totems and announce the new creed.
Contrary to conventional belief, a savior doesn’t come to glorify himself as God and have us grovel at his feet with threats of eternal damnation if we don’t recognize his divinity. Mass change comes when the consciousness of one of us is evoked and inspired with a vision of future possibilities. If the timing and circumstances are precisely right, this person becomes a supernatural agent in the employ of evolutionary forces, and initiates an Age change at a critical moment of mass stress, and thereby helps to elevate MAN’s consciousness to a new height of being.
The particular social circumstance of the birth of a messianic message takes place in relation to the depth of perception of the collective consciousness; this determines the manner in which the bearer must accomplish his mission – as a lover of peace and reason - or as a wrathful monster of war and terror.
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Jan 6th, 2009 6:19 AM #3
You left out ET intervention, over the last 100-150 years the advancement in technology would be in direct proportion with the needs of the thrown down ET’s to control humanity and Earth. That control makes us human’s cannon fodder, not the instigators of wars but just another tool for the warmongering fallen angel/ET’s here on prison planet Earth.
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Jan 6th, 2009 10:40 AM #4Beyond Extinct
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All atoms in the Universe are comprized of the same elementary particles. In other words there is no such thuing as an "alien" intelligence that is not also bound to the same laws that govern universal consciousness.
Any atomic association that has evolved an organic consciousness on any other planet - able to crash the natural survival barrier and develope super-natural technologies advanced enough to construct inter-stellar space craft, will have long ago graduated beyond primitive aggressive urges. In short they would be compassionately Cosmic Conscious and their only desire would be to ensure peaceful galactic co-existence.
The only aggressive ETs we have on this planet are home-grown spaced-out immature hooligans who slave for the industrial/military establishment and still think that war is the solution to planet management.
If there indeed ET's among us they would know not to interfere with the infinite complexities of an on-going evolutionary planetry process and that it is best to let the Earth children grow up naturally.
I would suggest you put down the Buck Rogers comics and grow up naturally..
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Jan 7th, 2009 7:35 AM #5
The timeline of clans, farmers, and Iron Age does not explain how more technological civilizations pop up almost over night with their leader god/goddess.
Your speculations are missing an entire section of the probability of aggressive aliens that would rather exterminate humanity instead of leaving humanity alone to grow up and mature. What makes you think those aliens would know enough to leave us alone? That would mean your warm and fuzzy theories are just speculations.@};-TicToc
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Jan 7th, 2009 9:57 AM #6
Fieryice, I would suggest that you read, Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond.
It gives a very logical and reasonable explanation for how Human Societies advanced without the help of aliens.
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Jan 7th, 2009 11:56 AM #7Cart-mod 2.0 Global Moderator
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Maybe this will give insight, lol:
+ YouTube Video "I was put on trial twice near Y2K for acting like Jesus and claiming to be the Messiah. Its not everyday that a man parks a Chariot of Fire in front of a tomb and stands against the US government with a bow and razor tipped arrows over his shoulder. I wore a suit of armor and was protected by an invisible bubble and my sharp tongue was more than the judicial system could handle."Jake
"The toilet is more than a throne. It is a sacred chamber."-Anton LaVey, High Priest of Satanism
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Jan 7th, 2009 12:20 PM #8Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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Warfare is not uncommon in the animal world.
Most likely these small disputes over hunting and forage grounds evolved with us in the wars we see today.
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Jan 7th, 2009 1:35 PM #9
I'm all for discussing ET intervention in some of humanities affairs, particularly as it might apply to the evolution of humans and that "jump" in development thing, but I do not think that ET's are the reason we've advanced as we have, in the way that we have, nor have I ever found one shred of evidence suggesting that a group of evil ET's are going balls out to try to destroy humanity. We are doing a fine enough job of that on our own, are we not? And if it were the case that aliens with evil designs have set their sites on destroying us, why be covert about it? Would not the evil ET's have advanced weaponry?
That being said,
Agreed, our self destruction comes from within... we're kind of imploding upon ourselves...
Originally Posted by MagnetMan
A wisdom born of painful experiences, much like we'll have to go through in order to really understand, not just intellectually but with everything we've got, a true in depth knowing, as opposed to mere book smarts.If there indeed ET's among us they would know not to interfere with the infinite complexities of an on-going evolutionary planetry process and that it is best to let the Earth children grow up naturally."The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me..."
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Jan 8th, 2009 3:32 AM #10
Cro-Magnon VS Neanderthal?
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Jan 8th, 2009 11:36 AM #11Beyond Extinct
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Jan 10th, 2009 11:25 PM #13Survivalist!
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Whereas Planet Managers are the ET's who originally set up the Mickey Mouse system in the first place.Magnet Man: Planet Managers Vs Mickey Mouse Corporate CEO's
They always knew the day would come when their charade would be exposed and they have planned for this.
The mickey mouse system is religion and government. They are our controllers. They are about to be overturned. But the one doing the overturning is the Illuminati Brotherhood of the Dragon who are under the direction of the ETs.
It's all contrived and the game is called problem-reaction-solution.
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Jan 12th, 2009 6:54 PM #14Beyond Extinct
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Which is in turn controlled by Big Bucks who are in turn controlled by delusions of grandeur. The phantom Ego is always in the shadows. We made Him. He is Mr Hyde.
Our wars originated in lion fights. Facing lions with spears gave us courage. Courage brought on war. War allowed us to love. Love gave Divine vision. Vision gave intellect. Now we have a tiger on the loose. We have to wage war on ourselves and tame the tiger within.
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