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Jan 13th, 2008 11:38 AM #1johnb1Guest
From Dust to Man: A Scientific Proof
They alleged that the creation of Adam is an ‘anti-scientific nonsense’, and God did not create Adam from a handful of dust, like the Bible says. To my readers, see how these blatant liars are ‘wrestling’ the words of the Bible. Their allegation and their pre-conceived idea are not written in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible can you find a verse that Adam was created by God from a handful of dust. What is written is recorded in Genesis 2:7, which says:
“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
While it is true that God created man from the dust of the ground, the phrase “handful of dust” is absent in the verse! It is conceived it the minds of these perverts. Be that as it may, the information in the Bible is scientific! Granting, without accepting, that there is such a thing as a ‘handful of dust’, whose hands will be the measuring hands for the dust that God will use in the formation of Adam? People who cremate the dead have an idea of how much dust will be left of the human body after cremation. I am sure it is not a sack of dust; but very close to a handful — depending on the hands that holds them. And why is it scientific? God made man from the dust; and when his body dies it decomposes and turns again to dust.
(Genesis 3:19) “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.”
What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.
The ignorance of these ‘imaginary people’ in what the Bible says betrays their alleged intelligence and knowledge in science. Of course, the human body is not made up only of dust, but God mixed the dust to water to produce clay.
(Job 10:9) “Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?”
(Romans 9:20-21) “Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?”
The mixture is clay, understandably contains more water than dust. Who says that the information in the Bible is scientifically nonsense? They are the one’s that are nonsensical, and not the Bible!
The exact proportion of the minerals and materials, if maintained, make up a healthy human body (http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/er...21_98Size.html). Excesses in these materials will cause disorders and diseases. Excess of aluminum, for example, and iron, will be toxic for the human body. The proportions of the abundance of the 59 elements on the earths crust, is amazingly represented in its presence in the human body. Who says that the Bible is not scientific? These ‘imaginary and anti-scientific people’!
Science and Religion Sychronized each other
Anybody There What do you got to Explain? for this Simple LOGICAL TRUTH (^^,) and state your reason
just like what I did.
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Jan 13th, 2008 4:23 PM #2
Apparently you have no idea what the words "scientific proof" mean."I had only to wish there be a large crowd of spectators the day of my execution and that they greet me with cries of hate."
Jan 13th, 2008 6:34 PM #3johnb1Guest
Oh Don't just say We have no Idea (^^,) explain! give us a General Simple LOGIC reason that everybody will understand even elementary and kids and even poor people will be not confused
I've GOT my BIBLE and other Educational Proof do you want to add more (^^,) just wait I will be granting it for you.
and I am humbly (-_-) to tell that I'm very sorry if you are offended or catch-by the subject that I POST. Correct me and I will accept a LAWFUL and Undeniable reason to make my mistake to be Clear for the sake of all classes of People (^^,)
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Jan 13th, 2008 7:05 PM #4
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Johm, here's why this is retarded. EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF MATER IN THE UNIVERSE IS MADE OUT OF THE VERY SAME 112 OR SO ELEMENTS. And almost EVERYTHING you see on this planet is made out of only a small amount of different atoms. Most things are made up of only about 6 or 7 atoms, as your diagram shows.
And as far as the chemical make up of humans and the Earth, if life CAME from the chemicals present IN THE EARTH, do you believe it is possible for life to be made up of something different?
The fact of the matter is that the people of that time noticed that human beings rot. The entire ecosystem of the planet depends on the fact that biological matter rots and is returned to the system. ALL life can be said to be "made of dust" if you take it in such a general meaning.
Therefore the Biblical story makes NOTHING of a prediciton because that sort of prediction is no different than me saying that a tiger is made out of elements.
Since ALL life is made up of this "dust," why didn't the Bible say that ALL life was made from the dust? That's right, believe it or not, we are made up of the same elements as most other life forms... who'd have thought, huh?"I was put on trial twice near Y2K for acting like Jesus and claiming to be the Messiah. Its not everyday that a man parks a Chariot of Fire in front of a tomb and stands against the US government with a bow and razor tipped arrows over his shoulder. I wore a suit of armor and was protected by an invisible bubble and my sharp tongue was more than the judicial system could handle."Jake
"The toilet is more than a throne. It is a sacred chamber."-Anton LaVey, High Priest of Satanism
Jan 13th, 2008 7:31 PM #5johnb1Guest
OK (^^,) at least Mr. Moderator give a nice quote with samples inspiratons and supported THE facts more storng (^^,) and undeniable...even though your view that the BIBLE makes nothing to you, As I always say one of the most hardest thing to a man is to believe the unseen things (^^,) until exprience Trial and error, eventualities come (^^,)
11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables
" 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'
9 He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
And This is BIBLE answer for your Qoute (^^,)
Many Thanks Mr. Moderator you give another IDEA (^^,)
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Jan 14th, 2008 4:23 PM #6
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OK, here's a link for you that might help:
What I just spewed is common knowledge. Do a google search and all your questions will be answered. Man is made of the same things the other animals are."I was put on trial twice near Y2K for acting like Jesus and claiming to be the Messiah. Its not everyday that a man parks a Chariot of Fire in front of a tomb and stands against the US government with a bow and razor tipped arrows over his shoulder. I wore a suit of armor and was protected by an invisible bubble and my sharp tongue was more than the judicial system could handle."Jake
"The toilet is more than a throne. It is a sacred chamber."-Anton LaVey, High Priest of Satanism
Jan 14th, 2008 4:58 PM #7
We are a part of every star,
and every star is a part of us...
and so on... every child already knows this until we tell them otherwise.
Adam couldn't have been formed from dust alone at any rate. You'd of had to had some water, too.
No water = no life."The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me..."
Jan 14th, 2008 8:17 PM #8johnb1Guest
plus sometimes my infraction/relevant/irrelevant and Funny reasonings in your eyes(^^,)
I am thinking Beyond and PARALLEL Right now
have any links there or quotes in your TREASURE PANDORAS BOX or SACRED BOOKS WHO HAVE THERE (^^,)
give us more....please please
Jan 14th, 2008 9:31 PM #9Originally Posted by John
Speaking of life as we know it- and according to you, life on earth is the most advanced so therefore we need only consider this planet- all life as we know it on earth was dependent on water to form and is dependent on water to live.
I do not have the technical lingo at hand to explain it, but basically it is because the properties of water cause it to form bonds with hydrogen, which gives it a cohesiveness. It is related to the molecules. It creates links; this linkage allows for a sort of "communication" and blending of various properties that might otherwise never of been able to combine.
Also, compared to other substances occurring naturally, water takes a lot of energy to heat. The temperature along the coasts are always more stable than those inland because there is more moisture in the air. Tiny and developing organisms do not generally thrive well when there are large fluctuations of temperature.
This is one reason why when looking for planets that may be supporting life, scientists generally begin by looking for water.
Some do suggest that life could develop on distant planets without water, and that our understanding of how life develops is limited to our unlearned perspective. But as mentioned, that wouldn't matter if you do not believe there could possibly be other forms of life than what God has created here on earth.
So that is why God could not have possibly created Adam from dust alone.
Last edited by Nu Kua; Jan 14th, 2008 at 9:44 PM."The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me..."
Jan 14th, 2008 9:37 PM #10
Jesus Christ you are dense.
Tell me exactly what is the process and basis YOU have. You proved absolutely nothing by even the most loose definition of the word "proof". You cited Genesis and showed two graphs of the compositions of the Earth's crust and the human body. Too bad you are too much of an ignoramus to realize your own graphs are working against you. If humans were made directly from the earth's crust then we would have the same composition proportions. Your own graphs show that that is not the case. So clearly there is much more going on than just simply animating a bunch of clay.
The bible is not a science book and should not be treated as such. In order for it to be considered a scientific resource on the origin of life it would have to talk, in detail, about formation of amino acids, creation of proteins, RNA....etc. It does exactly none of those things. So stop using it as a fucking science book.
And for the last fucking time, stop using so many capitalized words.
(^^,) <---- And what the fuck is this shit supposed to mean exactly?"I had only to wish there be a large crowd of spectators the day of my execution and that they greet me with cries of hate."
Jan 14th, 2008 9:58 PM #11johnb1Guest
OH MY! are you ANGRY INDEED I AM VERY SORRY (-_-) My deepest Apologies this is RELIGION Section RIGHT?
"CALLING GOOD SIR MR. MODERATOR" DO I am not allowed to POST this subject Matter for MR. Flyn is ANGRY now.
I am not Afraid even if your ANGRY at ME (^^,) or CURSE me I will DEFEND and SAY THE TRUTH JUST LIKE WHAT ALL THE NATIONAL HEROES DID. AND JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF
THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR (^^,)
Why Do I stopped Capitalized My Words Are Hurt what the BIBLE SAYS" or it is just I don't know the correct grammar and TECHNICAL wittings that teaches in schools.
51"Have you understood all these things?" Jesus asked.
"Yes," they replied.
52He said to them, "Therefore every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old."
53When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?" they asked. 55"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?" 57And they took offense at him.
But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."
58And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.
I am very sorry Deeply Sorry, I think if I and You where on a one on one and face to face discussion you will walk-out or punch me with anger for me to realized what you want to insist in me (^^,) and I assure you I will not Fight back you will be happy for beating up.
Or we could be Partner and Support each other opinions (^^,)
PEACE BRO! TEMPER TEMPER, PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE (^^,) I am not claiming that I am PERFECT and can explain all things clearly to all of you but GOD HAS MESSAGE through the BIBLE TO ALL OF US (-_-) JUST LIKE MOVIES HAS A MESSAGE IF YOU ASKED PRODUCERS AND DIRECTORS
MAYBE THE BIBLE BLOODLINE DECODERS AND TRANSLATORS WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING (^^,) LIFE IS SO SHORT TO UNDERSTAND ALL THINGS but GOD Give us A HINT. JEREMIAH 6:16
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Jan 14th, 2008 10:08 PM #12"The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me..."
Jan 14th, 2008 10:35 PM #13
And what the fuck is so hard to understand about turning off your god damn caps lock? It looks ugly, it's hard to read, and it makes people's eyes hurt after they look at it for too long. After I finish reading one of your posts my eyes feel like they are about to bleed."I had only to wish there be a large crowd of spectators the day of my execution and that they greet me with cries of hate."
Jan 14th, 2008 11:00 PM #14johnb1Guest
MR. GOOD RESPECTED ADMINISTRATOR (^^,) YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DELETE ALL WHAT I HAVE POSTED for the sake of the many that My THREAD is not RELIABLE and ALL LIES..
I have no regrets or ashamed off, for I follow the RULES here in AO after being seen some infractions that makes me admit my mistakes and what GOD want me TO DO...(^^,) MANY THANKS to all of you here GUYS.
GOD BLESS AND TAKE CARE ALWAYS.
I will wait for the Administrator decided and the Moderators to Condemn me not to continue this no more for this MIND BOGGLING ALERTING or IRRELEVANT or FUNNY what ever they say TOPIC.
4 "Surely you know how it has been from of old,
ever since man [a] was placed on the earth,
5 that the mirth of the wicked is brief,
the joy of the godless lasts but a moment.
This topic is inevitable and cannot be deny your reason is to arrange this accordingly it the Science SECTION (^^,)
GOD AND BIBLE ALWAYS SAYS IN EVERYTHING THAT ARE RELATED TO ALL OF US GOT THAT (^^,)
WHAT IS THE REAL MEANING OF LAW OF RELATIVITY...Off-course the DICTIONARY and TELL ABOUT THAT and SCIENCE (^^,)
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