Reasons for Homophobia?

[UVsaturated]

Eco, you're becoming boring with your one track mind.
We could be discussing what's for dinner, and you'd try to slip a little rape into it.

<yawn>

HA HAHAHAHAHAHHA.. That was a good one.

[Crimepunisher]

Rape is apart of Evolution and so is Homosexuality.. some animals homosexuals right? and some animals rape other animals(being of the same species ofcourse), so if we came from animals, animals that rape and are homosexuals, your obviously agreeing with rape as apart of some human survival instinct, if some people are born homosexual, then that means some people are born to rape other people... its apart of evolution.

That quote you gave is a guy saying it's a part of evolution without showing it is. That's like me saying Pacman is a part of evolution....though it is in the gaming world

accepting homosexuality would allow us to except rape,

Uhh, no

Homosexuality=Sex between two individuals of the same gender
Rape=Forced sex not restrained to one sexual preference

If we accept stupidity we accept rape, if we accept cowardice we accept rape, homosexuality has no bearing on the rape-ratio.....I'm going to use that more often.

but people are starting to wake up and finally becoming conscious of ourselves,

No

rape and homosexuality are apart of our past base desires and drives, to allow us to go back to being slaves to our past base desires and drives, would indeed be a mistake would it not?

So homosexuality is a past base desire of yours?

You remind me of that episode of South Park, Tom Cruise locks himself in a closet so R.Kelly busts in to get him out, only to lock himself in the closet...guess which you are.

see CP, we can remove the desire to rape and to be homosexuals from our genome.

I don't think there's any predisposition to rape in our genome.

Nope, I was saying that homosexuality is a small problem and should be solved before it becomes a bigger problem in the near future.

You still haven't produced enough logical evidence that paints it as a problem of any color.

I've noticed that oil wasn't a problem and i noticed that air pollution wasn't a problem awhile back, but most people think its become a problem.. that should have been prevented.. unprotected sex wasn't a big problem a couple years ago, but now it is... so instead of me thinking like an ignorant piss ant, I'm wanting these things to be prevented!

You are thinking like an ignorant pissant, don't flatter yourself

but I do want people to know how stupid they look when they say homosexuality is apart of Evolution, yet so is rape and they don't like it! LOL!

Homosexuality has been proven as part of it, rape has not! You have presented no conclusive evidence that it is except for some guy's quote. If that logic held sway I could just as easily prove guys named Fredo broke guys named Michaels' hearts.

Yes, I do.

No, you don't

I'm against people getting married and then getting divorced after like 6months-2 years of being married... I'm against people getting divorced while they have kids... and thats why some kids commit suicide... or better yet, grow up to be a distructive person, which they are more likely to become alcoholics..

But Drunk Driving is incapable of tearing families apart?

there is a reason why there are heterosexuals CP.. whats the child of 2 homosexual men going to think when he finds out his parents aren't even apart of how humans reproduce? oh it doesn't matter, maybe by then the scientist could come up with soemthing, that'll turn homosexual parents lies into camouflaged BS!

Homosexuals parent's lies? Once again: proof you are the single stupidest person on this board. Jake, laugh at him.

Its much easier to solve small problems before you solve the big problems..

No. Are you serious? Wow, guess my life has been turned around.

I guess I'll have to remember that when I think of how homosexuality still isn't a problem.

You seem to want to have the big problems solved, well thats not how it works bucko.. the big problems are now much harder to solve, than the small small problems..

Did your mom teach you that?

all they did was get 10 people in a room and did a poll to see how many people told them they were Christians.. then they decided to super size the percentage... they didn't go over to everyones house! which makes the stats and percentage! WRONG! FLAWED!

Christianity is the most popular religion in the world, proven by no fewer than five international tests. The percentage might be flawed, your logic might be flawed, but the result sure isn't.

Don't judge the whole
Christian population just because the Christians you see and know are actually hypocrites.

Until the percentage of Christians I meet that are nice outweighs the number of Christians I meet that are dicks I'm going to keep this mentality.

maybe your mom buys you those kinda things, but mine doesn't.

You must be confused, where I'm from I have actually have to work for this shit rather than pretend to be a cop and ask our mommies to buy clothes for us. Why not ask her to get you a hawthorne heights hoodie so you can cry tears of rage into at night while blasting panic at the disco.

I don't Judge them.. but God Will, and God will also Judge me, so stop trying to misinterpret my posts ok? ty.

You literally said "God will judge them, not me".

I act like I admire them to show people how stupid it is to admire rape which apart of evolution, just like homosexuality is being claimed to being apart of evolution.. people want to except homosexuality as being apart of evolution but once they hear that rape is also apart of evolution they deny it ever being apart of evolution, which is stupid, because if you can't except rape as being apart of evolution, but can except homsexuality as being apart of evolution, then that makes no sense! which makes that person look stupid!

Because rape hasn't been proven as being embedded in our genetic code.

Because he can

I love these little Christian responses

medical science has also verified rape being apart of some human behavioral instincts, which some are born with, the thing is.. some people really don't want to believe it, especially you Nu Kua.

No, it hasn't. I've never met a baby or a kid who has wanted to rape me or anyone else.

They've also verified that some animals have rape like behavior as of instincts.

Can you back this up, I've been asking for verification for like, two posts at least.

In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, not Eve and Eve, but just Adam and Eve!

And look how they fucked up.

I heard homosexual women are wanting to kids, so they go to the sperm bank to get some sperm to get planted in their eggs... and a lot of the guys in the community i live in.. are going to the sperm banks and getting their sperm destroyed! 1 of my freinds heard about this and he said: "those F***ing F*****s aren't getting my sperm!".

Umm, the sperm isn't getting destroyed, not sure if you know this. I'll walk you through.

One day, Dick (You an call him "Richard" if you're too repressed, Eco) goes to a sperm bank. He wants to assist in the birthing of children for barren couples and/or same sec couples incapable of doing it themselves. To do this, Dick partakes in an act known as "Masturbation" which eventually results in his sperm being deposited into a container, where it is stored at a temperature suitable to keep the sperm potent. After this, Dick is paid and leaves the office, where Mr. Sperm can reliably be used to help impregnate some couple.

See, I left out the registration part because I know how much your mom does that for you.

If homosexuality is natural.. why do they need a sperm bank? why do 2 men have to adopt a child? if its natural then they should be able to reproduce, omg! wait! wait a minute! they can't! LOL!

Not sure if you knew but there are heterosexual couples who can't reproduce either, if you're basing the righteousness of sexual orientation on the ability to reproduce both sides have a pretty hit miss record.

stereotyping homosexuals... I know someone who is homosexual.. and I showed him what you posted and he called you a stereotypical bitch... wow.... LOL!!!!!

So....you hate homosexuals (Sorry, the sin of homosexuality).....yet you're friends with them...hypocrite much?

And it's called a joke, you idiot. Get a fucking life. I'd say "Get a girlfriend" but we know damn well the only chicks who'd consider uploading your floppy to her hard drive are probably either gutter skanks or retards.

Eco, you're becoming boring with your one track mind.
We could be discussing what's for dinner, and you'd try to slip a little rape into it.

<yawn>

Hahaha! Quote of the fucking day

[ecosikz]

Evolution formed every biological process in the world, so?

so rapes just as normal as homosexuality.

Animals don't like rape. But they don't have a problem with homosexuality.
So there your ideas fail.

you don't do much research on somethings, do you? it hasn't failed until you can prove my theory wrong... links please?

You cant prevent homosexuality. You cant force people to think different.

I can see why alot of people hate the fact that there are somethings out of their control just like war,drugs,crime,diseases,viruses,death, and etc.. the funny thing is, people can't prevent everything... and yes people can force other people to think different... its called brainwashing..

No we cant. We have no ideas which genes cause homosexuality. And rape isn't even caused by genetic information.

do you have some proof against my theory or are you a closed minded prick?

Homosexuality isn't a problem.

Prove one bad thing that homosexuality causes.

well there sure is going to be alot more homosexual serial killers in the near future... its going to be like Jeffrey Dahmer all over again... this is 1 of the reasons I'm moving to Antarctica in 2 years... or less..

Evolution is blind. It doesn't see whether something is morally bad or good.
As long it causes people to have sex and spread their genes. It stays.
So you cant morally say whether or not something is good or bad by saying that something has evolved.

well crime has evolved.. so thats a normal thing...

Then don't marry.

some couples have unexpected pregnancies, even though they were using protection.. the females still got pregnant.. but thats why some people have an abortion, because some safe sex pos product doesn't prevent these unexpected pregnancies, so they have the clinics clean up the mess..
and btw I'm doing just fine being single, its just the people who think everything can be solved by filing a lawsuit or filing for divorce is much better, those are the people who need a wake up call.
1) some couples would rather file for divorce than try and work things out, because no marriage is exactly perfect, because there has always been problems in marriages and the couples need to learn how to solve those problems together..

You have absolutely no right to decide how other people should live.

I can decide how other people should live and I will, why? because I have the right to do it... if I don't have the right to do it.. why am I still doing it? because I can.. I have the right to do it..

And there is absolutely no prove that children are off worse in a 2 male family than in a traditional family.

whenever you say im wrong, im going to ask you to give me some proof against my theory... so please give me some proof...give me links.. not 1 link but more than 3 links and maybe some books?

Again, there is absolutely no prove of that.

if you can prove my theory wrong.. do it..

Besides, did you know that the biblical traditional family actually goes against human nature. Our natural way of raising kids is to dump them with a packmember and let him/her do ther parenting while the parents are out to gather food.

did you know that some packs have atleast 1 problem with 1 of the members in their pack.. and they forsaken them... or sometimes.. kill them.. yes if religion wasn't around we'd have a much higher crime rate today...

This caretaker could be a female, or an old man depending on the pack.
But these roles only rarely changed. So its perfectly normal that a child got raised by only one male or one female for most of the time.

rarely change? is it rarely changing now or is this change going to happen more often?

The only people that see a problem in homosexuality are racist religious bigots.
The easiest way to solve that is simply to get rid of racist religious bigots.

The kkk thought the easiest way to get rid of AA's was to hang and kill them..
but it looks like that didn't solve anything.. it just made it worse..

Perhaps those are the ones that grew up and started thinking instead of following teachings that have been outdated for centuries.

I don't care about what god said. He doesn't exist.

Scientist can't prove God exists and they can't prove God doesn't exist, so obviously.. you can't prove that God doesn't exist...

Evolution doesn't teach morals.

LOL

You cant decide on other peoples lives just because you believe in fairy tales.

I can if I want to and the funny part is.. you cant do a damn thing to stop me..

So.. We are discussing homosexuality. Wish is completely different from rape.

rape is also a part of Evolution and it has alot in common with homosexuality

So, some animals also eat their mate while having sex. Saving the important organs for last to give him more time to fertilize eggs.
Evolution is morally blind. It doesn't care about whether or not something is right or not.

when people decide homosexuality is good, then that means rape is good.. and yes.. it will happen alot more...

So. Perhaps god actually wanted to make eve and eve. But he couldn't because he wanted humanity to go beyond the first generation.

so homosexual animals are able to reproduce, but... homosexual humans can't.... which means the homosexual animal was meant to reproduce, but... homosexual humans aren't meant to reproduce.. so if its not suppose to be.. then.. people aren't suppose to be homosexuals... why?
because homosexual humans can't reproduce!

Then why do deceases exist that render the animal infertile.
And why do off all animals, only a small amount survive to mate.

because their animals.. not humans..

If you know someone that is homosexual, he either is being beaten into submission with the bible, or to afraid to speak his mind.

he's not afraid to speak his mind and he considers his homosexuality to be a birth defect.... he strongly believes it is..

[ecosikz]

Eco, you're becoming boring with your one track mind.
We could be discussing what's for dinner, and you'd try to slip a little rape into it.

<yawn>

Rape has somethings in common with Homosexuality, their both apart of Evolution.. so I have every right to bring it into this thread.

HA HAHAHAHAHAHHA.. That was a good one.

and you couldn't pm her with this compliment why?...

That quote you gave is a guy saying it's a part of evolution without showing it is. That's like me saying Pacman is a part of evolution....though it is in the gaming world

That person has done more research on comparing rape to evolution, ntm finding out that it has alot more in common with Homosexuality than some people might think...

Uhh, no

Uhh, yes.

Homosexuality=Sex between two individuals of the same gender
Rape=Forced sex not restrained to one sexual preference

They are both apart of evolution, thus there is no reason why we should allow 1 and not the other..

If we accept stupidity we accept rape, if we accept cowardice we accept rape, homosexuality has no bearing on the rape-ratio.....I'm going to use that more often.

Homosexual humans can't reproduce the same way the Homosexual animals can... thus.. evolution is about reproduction and survival and evolving.. so lycanox just helped me with this question: "If Evolution is about Reproduction,survival, and evolving, then how come Homosexual humans can't reproduce?". If Homosexual Humans can't reproduce, their species can't survive without offspring and if they can't have offspring.. they can't evolve and populate.. that means they will become extincted, yet the Homosexual animals.. are able to reproduce,populate,and maybe even evolve.. why aren't they extincted? hmm, maybe its because... Their NOT HUMANS! Their NOT OUR ANCESTORS! WE DIDN'T EVOLVE FROM THEM!

No

so we're still blind and unconscious.. riiiight...

So homosexuality is a past base desire of yours?

When somebody claims that Homosexuality is apart of evolution... and humans have evolved from animals.. animals.. that were in the past.. with these particular desires.. then you are claiming that these past desires of our anchestors .. are humanities past desires.

I don't think there's any predisposition to rape in our genome.

thats 1 of your problems CP.. You don't think.

You still haven't produced enough logical evidence that paints it as a problem of any color.

maybe your blind to the point that you can't see it? maybe..
instead of posting a lame excuse, just go do some research...

You are thinking like an ignorant pissant, don't flatter yourself

this is coming from someone who says...
"I don't think there's any predisposition to rape in our genome."
LOL!

Homosexuality has been proven as part of it, rape has not! You have presented no conclusive evidence that it is except for some guy's quote. If that logic held sway I could just as easily prove guys named Fredo broke guys named Michaels' hearts.

it's by someone whose done more research and has alot more knowledge about it than you do... thus, you haven't even presented conclusive evidence that says it isn't.. you seem like the type who waits for someone else like lycanox to present evidence because your just too lazy to do some simple research..

No, you don't

Yes, I do.

But Drunk Driving is incapable of tearing families apart?

there are alot more things that are capable of tearing weak families apart...

Homosexuals parent's lies?

Everybody lies, why are you surprised?

I guess I'll have to remember that when I think of how homosexuality still isn't a problem.

people disagree on alot of things... you just disagree that its not a problem, which doesn't mean it isn't a problem to other people..

Did your mom teach you that?

Its commonsense.

Christianity is the most popular religion in the world, proven by no fewer than five international tests. The percentage might be flawed, your logic might be flawed, but the result sure isn't.

because those people said the results aren't flawed... or do you have proof?

Until the percentage of Christians I meet that are nice outweighs the number of Christians I meet that are dicks I'm going to keep this mentality.

then you must really like hypocrites.

You must be confused, where I'm from I have actually have to work for this shit rather than pretend to be a cop and ask our mommies to buy clothes for us.

the only reason you think I'm not a cop is because.. other people on here say im not a cop.. they don't know me, they only judge me on what I say in my posts.. or maybe its the fact that you think you know something, but you actually don't know shit..

Why not ask her to get you a hawthorne heights hoodie so you can cry tears of rage into at night while blasting panic at the disco.

thats a really lame assumption.

You literally said "God will judge them, not me".

They'll be Judged for the sin their committing. I won't be judged for that sin, because I'm not a Homosexual.

Because rape hasn't been proven as being embedded in our genetic code.

I'm still looking for you to prove me wrong.. but somehow, I feel like you can't..

I love these little Christian responses

I love how Evolutionists say: "everything is random".

No, it hasn't. I've never met a baby or a kid who has wanted to rape me or anyone else.

I got a news article that proves you wrong...

Can you back this up, I've been asking for verification for like, two posts at least.

I've been asking for you to prove my theory wrong and so far all you keep saying is I'm wrong and shit, but I'm still waiting for you to post something that will actually prove me wrong.

And look how they fucked up.

Eve and Eve can't reproduce so we'd be extincted.. Adam and steve can't reproduce(since the only thing that comes out of a mans ass is poop and thats all) so they would also become extincted.. Can you honestly prove to me that Homosexual humans can reproduce? No you can't.. can you? no..

Umm, the sperm isn't getting destroyed, not sure if you know this.

you can ask for it back...

Not sure if you knew but there are heterosexual couples who can't reproduce either, if you're basing the righteousness of sexual orientation on the ability to reproduce both sides have a pretty hit miss record.

yes, but you haven't proved how 2 homosexuals are able to reproduce...

So....you hate homosexuals (Sorry, the sin of homosexuality).....yet you're friends with them...hypocrite much?

He's not really my friend he's just somebody I know.

And it's called a joke, you idiot. Get a fucking life. I'd say "Get a girlfriend" but we know damn well the only chicks who'd consider uploading your floppy to her hard drive are probably either gutter skanks or retards.

ever heard of a cyber crime? ya, people nowadays are going to jail for it.

Hahaha! Quote of the fucking day

You don't get out much do you? I thought so.

[Crimepunisher]

so rapes just as normal as homosexuality.

Rape isn't a biological process and to date you have still not produced us with any evidence it is outside of quotes. Despite several requests.

you don't do much research on somethings, do you? it hasn't failed until you can prove my theory wrong... links please?

OK, show us proof they do rape then, so far every time we say "No, they don't" you counter with "Yes, they do", which is a pretty repetitive argument but one you seem delighted to continue.

do you have some proof against my theory or are you a closed minded prick?

HAHAHA, that is the most hypocritical yet awesomely hilarious quote of the day.

well there sure is going to be alot more homosexual serial killers in the near future... its going to be like Jeffrey Dahmer all over again... this is 1 of the reasons I'm moving to Antarctica in 2 years... or less..

...and you deduced this how?

1) some couples would rather file for divorce than try and work things out, because no marriage is exactly perfect, because there has always been problems in marriages and the couples need to learn how to solve those problems together..

Sometimes things are beyond working out.

I can decide how other people should live and I will, why? because I have the right to do it... if I don't have the right to do it.. why am I still doing it? because I can.. I have the right to do it..

Uh, no you don't have the right. Which is frankly 15&#37; of the reason (outside of the retarded circular logic and homophobia) no one here is going to respect a thing you say.

whenever you say im wrong, im going to ask you to give me some proof against my theory... so please give me some proof...give me links.. not 1 link but more than 3 links and maybe some books?

I don't have them on me but if we produce links you'd better produce links from trustworthy scientific sources that suggest children growing up in a 2 father home are worse off.

did you know that some packs have atleast 1 problem with 1 of the members in their pack.. and they forsaken them... or sometimes.. kill them.. yes if religion wasn't around we'd have a much higher crime rate today...

Oh, right, because the hundreds and thousands of people of other religions who were killed and still are being killed from a thousand years ago to now never were in the name of religion. Crack a history book, get reading.

I can if I want to and the funny part is..

You remind me of this kid from first grade. He was a prick, bigger than the other kids and picked on the slightest insecurities. He tried to tell everyone how to act including the teacher and thought he could because he was the only "Far minded Christian there".

That was until I knocked his lights out.

After that he mostly stayed quiet.

rape is also a part of Evolution and it has alot in common with homosexuality

That is the single stupidest thing I've heard today. For starters, you have yet to prove rape is a part of evolution, so until you do it's not a part of evolution.

Secondly, Rape: Forced sex. Homosexuality: Sex with person of the same gender. There can be homosexual rapists and there can be heterosexual rapists, but rape isn't a sexual preference. You can't be a rapistsexual rapist.

when people decide homosexuality is good, then that means rape is good

No.

I support the rights of Homosexuals to marry, I'm not condoning Rape. Until you can see the difference between these two I suggest you don't post and think long and hard about what you're saying.

so homosexual animals are able to reproduce, but... homosexual humans can't.... which means the homosexual animal was meant to reproduce, but... homosexual humans aren't meant to reproduce.. so if its not suppose to be.. then.. people aren't suppose to be homosexuals... why?
because homosexual humans can't reproduce!

Once again some Heterosexual couples can't produce either, and at a certain moment in a woman and sometimes man's life they won't be able to produce.

That person has done more research on comparing rape to evolution, ntm finding out that it has alot more in common with Homosexuality than some people might think...

Has he produced the evidence though? And how can you compare rape to evolution?

No, I still don't see it.

Until then I'm going to play the same way:

I researched World War II a lot, and Hitler was definitely a robot built by martians to take over the world, and the allies were like the Rebels in Star Wars.

Uhh, yes.

Umm, no

They are both apart of evolution, thus there is no reason why we should allow 1 and not the other..

Until you show evidence Rape is we're going to call you wrong, so get cracking.

"If Evolution is about Reproduction,survival, and evolving, then how come Homosexual humans can't reproduce?"

I'm going to quote something you just said.

They are both apart of evolution

We've proven homosexuality and you're contradicting yourself.

When somebody claims that Homosexuality is apart of evolution... and humans have evolved from animals.. animals.. that were in the past.. with these particular desires.. then you are claiming that these past desires of our anchestors .. are humanities past desires.

Hey, even you have admitted it's an evolutionary trait.

thats 1 of your problems CP.. You don't think.

Well you haven't proven me wrong yet so, apparently I do.

maybe your blind to the point that you can't see it? maybe..
instead of posting a lame excuse, just go do some research...

I did some and didn't find any. So please enlighten us.

this is coming from someone who says...
"I don't think there's any predisposition to rape in our genome."
LOL!

Nice comeback there.

Yes, I do.

No, you don't.

there are alot more things that are capable of tearing weak families apart...

Weak families? Right.

Everybody lies, why are you surprised?

I'm not saying they don't lie but you made it seem for all the world like all homosexual parents lied about everything.

people disagree on alot of things... you just disagree that its not a problem, which doesn't mean it isn't a problem to other people..

You know I think I asked for a big proof post from you telling why it is exactly. Fairly sure you said you'd have it here in a few days and I'm still not seeing it.

because those people said the results aren't flawed... or do you have proof?

Because there have been dozens of tests worldwide that yield the same result. This one you can search. I'll turn up a few answers now:

From Wiki:

With an estimated number of adherents that ranges between 1.5 billion[163] and 2.1 billion,[163] split into around 34,000 separate denominations, Christianity is the world's largest religion.[164]

Random site I found:

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

then you must really like hypocrites.

No, I hate you.

They'll be Judged for the sin their committing. I won't be judged for that sin, because I'm not a Homosexual.

But then you're a heterosexual?

Guess you'll be judged for that.

I'm still looking for you to prove me wrong.. but somehow, I feel like you can't..

I can't prove something wrong if it isn't proven right. So far you haven't proved me wrong so until you do we're at a stalemate.

I got a news article that proves you wrong...

There's a baby that wants to rape me?

I've been asking for you to prove my theory wrong and so far all you keep saying is I'm wrong and shit, but I'm still waiting for you to post something that will actually prove me wrong.

You're asking me to disprove something you haven't proved yourself.

yes, but you haven't proved how 2 homosexuals are able to reproduce...

I'm not going to, that's the point of the post you quoted: they can't but that isn't a reason to condemn it.

He's not really my friend he's just somebody I know.

Is he your backdoor man?

ever heard of a cyber crime? ya, people nowadays are going to jail for it.

So are you going to forcibly upload files to her CPU? That's rape.

You don't get out much do you? I thought so.

You don't think much do you? I thought so.

[lycanox]

so rapes just as normal as homosexuality.

Yes. However nature is blind to ethics. Rape is a bad thing. homosexuality isnt.

you don't do much research on somethings, do you? it hasn't failed until you can prove my theory wrong... links please?

Name one animal that likes to be raped, and one that hates homosexuality?

I can see why alot of people hate the fact that there are somethings out of their control just like war,drugs,crime,diseases,viruses,death, and etc.. the funny thing is, people can't prevent everything... and yes people can force other people to think different... its called brainwashing..

Brainwashing is not a good thing. And even that doesnt prevent homosexuality.

do you have some proof against my theory or are you a closed minded prick?

Do you have any prove, or are you the close minded prick.

well there sure is going to be alot more homosexual serial killers in the near future... its going to be like Jeffrey Dahmer all over again... this is 1 of the reasons I'm moving to Antarctica in 2 years... or less..

But at the moment the mayority of serial killers is hetrosexual. Should we try to remove them?

And i dont see any link between someones preferences and violence.
Unless the homosexual finaly snaps becouse he is around too much people with your kind of ideas.

well crime has evolved.. so thats a normal thing...

Evolution is neutral. It doesnt ask the species its going to change wheter or not it likes having the new gimmic.

some couples have unexpected pregnancies, even though they were using protection.. the females still got pregnant.. but thats why some people have an abortion, because some safe sex pos product doesn't prevent these unexpected pregnancies, so they have the clinics clean up the mess..
and btw I'm doing just fine being single, its just the people who think everything can be solved by filing a lawsuit or filing for divorce is much better, those are the people who need a wake up call.
1) some couples would rather file for divorce than try and work things out, because no marriage is exactly perfect, because there has always been problems in marriages and the couples need to learn how to solve those problems together..

And that would be their live thus their choice.

I can decide how other people should live and I will, why? because I have the right to do it... if I don't have the right to do it.. why am I still doing it? because I can.. I have the right to do it..

And why do you have the right?

whenever you say im wrong, im going to ask you to give me some proof against my theory... so please give me some proof...give me links.. not 1 link but more than 3 links and maybe some books?

And where is your prove that they are better of in a orphan house than in a male only family? Children comming from ophanages are usually also very messed off.

if you can prove my theory wrong.. do it..

Your the one here making theories, so your the one that has to show prove.

did you know that some packs have atleast 1 problem with 1 of the members in their pack.. and they forsaken them... or sometimes.. kill them.. yes if religion wasn't around we'd have a much higher crime rate today...

Animals dont have a religion and they have no problem living in large packs.
The only ones that usually evicted are the ones the endanger that community of animals.

Besides, if religion wasnt around, the world would be spared from religious terrorism, witch trails, ceremonial human sacrifices, child mutulation, crusades, anti scientific ideas and religous brainwashing.

I rather take my risk with the higher crime levels.

rarely change? is it rarely changing now or is this change going to happen more often?

Depends on the family. Some children have a few, some a lot.

The kkk thought the easiest way to get rid of AA's was to hang and kill them..
but it looks like that didn't solve anything.. it just made it worse..

Perhaps those are the ones that grew up and started thinking instead of following teachings that have been outdated for centuries.

Than why are they claiming to do what god wants them to do.
Murder the children of cain.

Scientist can't prove God exists and they can't prove God doesn't exist, so obviously.. you can't prove that God doesn't exist...

The absence of prove for a ridiculous idea is enough for me.
If they were from another planet, perhaps. But not some floating man in the sky.

LOL

Seriously it is. Simulary gravity doesnt teach morals. Or the law of conservation of energie.

I can if I want to and the funny part is.. you cant do a damn thing to stop me..

And what army do you have to stop homosexuality. Or are you going to stop them all by yourselves.

rape is also a part of Evolution and it has alot in common with homosexuality

Tails have evolved aswel, just like hair, bacteria and grass.
The only thing that they have in common is that they are evolved.

The only thing that homosexuality has in common is that they are the product of evolution.

when people decide homosexuality is good, then that means rape is good.. and yes.. it will happen alot more...

That is definitly the case.

Besides, if this is still playing on the both are evolved card.
Forgiving eachother, loving eachoter and helping eachother are things that also evolved.

So following your logic. If you concider homosexuality bad, those things are bad aswell.

so homosexual animals are able to reproduce, but... homosexual humans can't.... which means the homosexual animal was meant to reproduce, but... homosexual humans aren't meant to reproduce.. so if its not suppose to be.. then.. people aren't suppose to be homosexuals... why?
because homosexual humans can't reproduce!

We also arent supposed to ruin the enviroment or help people with bad genes.
Yet it happens.

because their animals.. not humans..

Humans are animals.

he's not afraid to speak his mind and he considers his homosexuality to be a birth defect.... he strongly believes it is..

But that he sees it as some kind of birth defect doesn't mean that it is a bad thing that he needs to repress.

[ecosikz]

Rape isn't a biological process and to date you have still not produced us with any evidence it is outside of quotes. Despite several requests.

you really can't seem to prove anything in a 1 on 1 debate with me. here's my evidence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobi...eories_of_rape

HAHAHA, that is the most hypocritical yet awesomely hilarious quote of the day.

HAHAHA, your 1 center-minded attention freak..

...and you deduced this how?

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet4.htML

Sometimes things are beyond working out.

a mother encourages her daughter to get an abortion instead of giving her baby up for adoption... the fetus didn't ask to be in her.. the fetus didn't ask to be aborted..

I believe somethings like this:
http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?d...cumentID=32353
are beyond working out.

Uh, no you don't have the right. Which is frankly 15% of the reason (outside of the retarded circular logic and homophobia) no one here is going to respect a thing you say.

actually I do have the right, people have the right to do unnatural things, so therefor what is deemed unnatural is right and what is natural is wrong.

I don't have them on me but if we produce links you'd better produce links from trustworthy scientific sources that suggest children growing up in a 2 father home are worse off.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
if you need any more evidence just ask.

Oh, right, because the hundreds and thousands of people of other religions who were killed and still are being killed from a thousand years ago to now never were in the name of religion. Crack a history book, get reading.

I didn't know Religion had spread a deadly STD that would kill hundreds and hundreds of people, ntm deception of every kind in what seemed to be a natural continuing relationship with a belief in a greater power.

That is the single stupidest thing I've heard today. For starters, you have yet to prove rape is a part of evolution, so until you do it's not a part of evolution.

Secondly, Rape: Forced sex. Homosexuality: Sex with person of the same gender. There can be homosexual rapists and there can be heterosexual rapists, but rape isn't a sexual preference. You can't be a rapistsexual rapist.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...1338806C128409
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobi...eories_of_rape
need anymore proof just ask.

No.

I support the rights of Homosexuals to marry, I'm not condoning Rape. Until you can see the difference between these two I suggest you don't post and think long and hard about what you're saying.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
You condoning Domestic Violence..

Once again some Heterosexual couples can't produce either, and at a certain moment in a woman and sometimes man's life they won't be able to produce.

ya only some heterosexual couples can't reproduce, but I'm asking you: "where is your proof that a homosexual human can reproduce?". you don't have any evidence do you?

Has he produced the evidence though? And how can you compare rape to evolution?

yes, and to answer your 2nd question, I already told you how

No, I still don't see it.

people will see what they want to see and you will believe what you want to believe, if you can't see it, that isn't my problem, its yours.

Until you show evidence Rape is we're going to call you wrong, so get cracking.

I've already showed you the evidence, give me your evidence now.

We've proven homosexuality and you're contradicting yourself.

We've? please tell your pals on here to step forward, because I'm really getting tired of this "us and we" bs, why? because the only person I seem to be debating with is you and lycanox.

Hey, even you have admitted it's an evolutionary trait.

but did I really admit it? nah.

Well you haven't proven me wrong yet so, apparently I do.

you haven't proven my theory wrong.

I did some and didn't find any. So please enlighten us.

maybe your too lazy?

No, you don't.

Yes, I do.

Weak families? Right.

ya, weak families, just like weak couples and what people seem to have called a serious relationship..

I'm not saying they don't lie but you made it seem for all the world like all homosexual parents lied about everything.

I made it seem like it? LOL!

You know I think I asked for a big proof post from you telling why it is exactly. Fairly sure you said you'd have it here in a few days and I'm still not seeing it.

Where?

I can't prove something wrong if it isn't proven right. So far you haven't proved me wrong so until you do we're at a stalemate.

lycanox helped me prove it.

There's a baby that wants to rape me?

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?s...1338806C128409

You're asking me to disprove something you haven't proved yourself.

I'm asking you to disprove a theory I have presented to you, its better then a thought or an idea, its a belief and you haven't disproved it.

You don't think much do you? I thought so.

You don't do much do you? I thought so.

links:
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?s...1338806C128409
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobi...eories_of_rape
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet4.htML
http://abortionviolence.com/0.HTM
http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence

[Stabby Joe]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
if you need any more evidence just ask.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
You condoning Domestic Violence.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence

Interesting... do you have any evidence that doesn't come from an entirely right wing (possible Christian right) editting version of wiki?

[Crimepunisher]

you really can't seem to prove anything in a 1 on 1 debate with me. here's my evidence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobi...eories_of_rape

I've already proven you're an idiot, and finally after how many weeks of asking you come up with a link showing it in animals, nice work.

HAHAHA, your 1 center-minded attention freak..

Haha, you're a closet case.

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet4.htML

Nice job finding a clearly biased source of information. Maybe I should start watching Pat Robertson for information on the history of earth-based religions.

a mother encourages her daughter to get an abortion instead of giving her baby up for adoption... the fetus didn't ask to be in her.. the fetus didn't ask to be aborted..

You were talking about marriages in the selection I quoted, not abortions, nice attempt to divert focus though

actually I do have the right, people have the right to do unnatural things, so therefor what is deemed unnatural is right and what is natural is wrong.

Ok, tell me what to do

Oh, that's right, if you do I can just ignore it.

n|m

"where is your proof that a homosexual human can reproduce?". you don't have any evidence do you?

I've already said twice they can't, but once again that doesn't give reason to discriminate against homosexuality.

yes, and to answer your 2nd question, I already told you how

Show me the evidence

people will see what they want to see and you will believe what you want to believe, if you can't see it, that isn't my problem, its yours.

It's your problem if you're still only backing up a quarter of the shit you're saying.

I've already showed you the evidence, give me your evidence now.

You haven't shown any damn evidence, you've shown articles backing up one of your supported theories, yet you completely ignore the other.

We've? please tell your pals on here to step forward, because I'm really getting tired of this "us and we" bs, why? because the only person I seem to be debating with is you and lycanox.

Thus making it a point to use "we" as showing there are more than one of us.

but did I really admit it? nah.

You've addressed it as being a part of evolution several times, so unless you're even more of a hypocrite than you were a few days ago...

you haven't proven my theory wrong.

You also haven't proven yours right.

maybe your too lazy?

Did a good hard three hours of looking, even called a doctor friend of mine who couldn't supply me with any related materials so.

Yes, I do.

No, you don't

Where?

I'll dig through and find it right after this post

lycanox helped me prove it.

Even Lycanox didn't prove it, although he supports the theory which is fine by me seeing as how he's actually able to differentiate between Rape and Homosexuality.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?s...1338806C128409

Children, not babies, the toddler case is a particularly extreme case.

I'm asking you to disprove a theory I have presented to you, its better then a thought or an idea, its a belief and you haven't disproved it.

Once again I'm not going to waste time disproving something you're still struggling to back up. And how am I to disprove a belief? I believe you're an idiot. Can you prove me wrong?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
if you need any more evidence just ask.

You've gotta be fucking joking, you went to Conservapedia.com to get information. I said "Unbiased sources"

I didn't know Religion had spread a deadly STD that would kill hundreds and hundreds of people, ntm deception of every kind in what seemed to be a natural continuing relationship with a belief in a greater power.

Actually religion has killed millions and millions (That's right, millions) without disease, plague, or even really having to lift a finger. all they had to do was say another religion was wrong and some of those religions are now almost completely gone thanks to a nice little insututuion I like to call Christianity.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
You condoning Domestic Violence..

If you're truly getting info and facts from Conservapedia you're condoning rampant stupidity. I'm not backing domestic abuse.

You don't do much do you? I thought so.

Ecosikz, just a question but, do you hate homosexuality because of something that happened in your past. Do you have a superhero-like back story that involves you overcoming some trial (coughpriestrape) and becoming some hero so far in the closet the only enemies you fight are dust bunnies?

It's time to grow up and stop living off the teet. Stop going to conservapedia because frankly you're just going to make me laugh at you
even more.

And as for that thing you were writing:

Prove it without use of your Bible

I will but im really busy for 3 days but ill make 5-10 paragraphs of why its wrong, so be ready to read it

Anyways, you've still only backed one of your claims, waiting on the others, so until you get some proof or post that 5-10 paragraph long son of a bitch I'm just going to steer clear of this thread. Feel free to PM me if you post something useful.

[ecosikz]

Interesting... do you have any evidence that doesn't come from an entirely right wing (possible Christian right) editting version of wiki?

yes I do, because I knew you and CP hate Christians and think they are mindless idiots.

I've already proven you're an idiot, and finally after how many weeks of asking you come up with a link showing it in animals, nice work.

thats the only thing lycanox and you have done, comparing animal homosexuality evolving into human sexuality.

Nice job finding a clearly biased source of information. Maybe I should start watching Pat Robertson for information on the history of earth-based religions.

what makes it biased? you seem to be bashing my religious beliefs with your hatred for me...

You were talking about marriages in the selection I quoted, not abortions, nice attempt to divert focus though

the abortion part was an example of weak decision making in marriages.

Ok, tell me what to do

Oh, that's right, if you do I can just ignore it.

n|m

why would I tell you what to do?

I've already said twice they can't, but once again that doesn't give reason to discriminate against homosexuality.

but lycanox says we came from animals, the same animals who were homosexually able to reproduce... I guess that theory is flawed, thus not a valid excuse for homosexuality in humans..

Show me the evidence

and how would you like me to present it to you?

It's your problem if you're still only backing up a quarter of the shit you're saying.

I've backed up half of the shit ive been saying, I'll try to back up the other half but you seem to want me to present my evidence in another way, so please tell me how you would like me to present the evidence I have found, thus making it much easier for you to understand what it is that I've been saying is proven.

You haven't shown any damn evidence, you've shown articles backing up one of your supported theories, yet you completely ignore the other.

how would you like me to present the evidence I have that would make it much easier for you to see it?

Thus making it a point to use "we" as showing there are more than one of us.

and who is the WE?

You've addressed it as being a part of evolution several times, so unless you're even more of a hypocrite than you were a few days ago...

I've addressed it, but I didn't admit to it as being TRUE.

Did a good hard three hours of looking, even called a doctor friend of mine who couldn't supply me with any related materials so.

what kind of doctor is he/she?

No, you don't

yes, I do.

I'll dig through and find it right after this post

ok.

Even Lycanox didn't prove it, although he supports the theory which is fine by me seeing as how he's actually able to differentiate between Rape and Homosexuality.

yes, he's much easier to debate with.

Children, not babies, the toddler case is a particularly extreme case.

please explain.

Once again I'm not going to waste time disproving something you're still struggling to back up. And how am I to disprove a belief?

Find a way.



You've gotta be fucking joking, you went to Conservapedia.com to get information. I said "Unbiased sources"[/quote] again... what makes it biased?

Actually religion has killed millions and millions (That's right, millions) without disease, plague, or even really having to lift a finger. all they had to do was say another religion was wrong and some of those religions are now almost completely gone thanks to a nice little insututuion I like to call Christianity.

so you hate religion and that why you punch a Christian kid in 1st grade? nice, so you hate Christianity and since you hate Christianity and are against it, your using this thread about homophobia to make your argument against Christianity? wow, so even if I have proof of my theory, your going to still deny it, and to think, I actually thought you were open minded.

If you're truly getting info and facts from Conservapedia you're condoning rampant stupidity. I'm not backing domestic abuse.

because its from a Christian site that makes it stupid and biased?

Ecosikz, just a question but, do you hate homosexuality because of something that happened in your past. Do you have a superhero-like back story that involves you overcoming some trial (coughpriestrape) and becoming some hero so far in the closet the only enemies you fight are dust bunnies?

I think we should hold off on this debate because it seems to be getting way too personal..

[quote=Crimepunisher;220006] It's time to grow up and stop living off the teet. Stop going to conservapedia because frankly you're just going to make me laugh at you
even more.whats wrong conservapedia?

Anyways, you've still only backed one of your claims, waiting on the others, so until you get some proof or post that 5-10 paragraph long son of a bitch I'm just going to steer clear of this thread. Feel free to PM me if you post something useful.

I've been so busy I totally forgot about that, thanks for remind me of that.

[Stabby Joe]

so you hate religion and that why you punch a Christian kid in 1st grade? nice, so you hate Christianity and since you hate Christianity and are against it, your using this thread about homophobia to make your argument against Christianity? wow, so even if I have proof of my theory, your going to still deny it, and to think, I actually thought you were open minded.

I'll leave this thread to you guys still however I must question this statement. He was saying Christians have killed millions... thats a fact... and ponder why it must be some sort of personal vendetta with a religion to point it out.

[Crimepunisher]

so you hate religion and that why you punch a Christian kid in 1st grade? nice, so you hate Christianity and since you hate Christianity

I have you on ignore now so I only got this bit:

I punched him out because he was trying to force kids to do shit on wrong principals. I don't hate the religion, I hate the people that follow it blindly and try to wash out the trail of blood following it with little numbers such as "Jesus saved me" or "We're helping people".

I'm sure in its history the church has done some nice things, but even to this day they and their followers have trouble admitting the fact that millions were killed in the name of faith in something that to this day obstructs rights even more. As if we didn't have enough of that with Bush in office.

[ecosikz]

I have you on ignore now so I only got this bit:

I only pmed you 1 time, sheesh..

I punched him out because he was trying to force kids to do shit on wrong principals.

like homosexuals forcing the issue on the right to have gay marriages? well their wanting to change the law/laws, so look at that kid as being a homosexual thats forcing the other kids to do shit on wrong principals. think about it, if gay marriage wasn't legal, why do they want something illegal to be legal? now try an consider this, the kid thats forcing the other kids to do shit on wrong principals, is probably wanting to make the wrong principals into good principals, because in his mind he probably thinks the good principals are seen as wrong principals to him and therefor he is trying to force a change.

Homosexuals are trying/wanting to force a change, just as this kid wanted to force a change, so what makes it right for you to KO that kid, but saying its wrong for me to KO the gay marriage issue?

I don't hate the religion, I hate the people that follow it blindly and try to wash out the trail of blood following it with little numbers such as "Jesus saved me" or "We're helping people".

if you really truly believe in evolution, then you should know that the weaker species is always going to be extincted, why? because its "survival of the fittest" and frankly, Christianity is the fittest.

Do you believe in Evolution or just some parts of it?

I'm sure in its history the church has done some nice things, but even to this day they and their followers have trouble admitting the fact that millions were killed in the name of faith in something that to this day obstructs rights even more. As if we didn't have enough of that with Bush in office.

obstructs rights? go over to the middle east and see what kind of rights you can get from them, because, we have people from the middle east literally dying to have what we have, its just, some citizens in the US are never satisfied with what they have, that is, until it is taken from them.

[Stabby Joe]

I only pmed you 1 time, sheesh..

like homosexuals forcing the issue on the right to have gay marriages? well their wanting to change the law/laws, so look at that kid as being a homosexual thats forcing the other kids to do shit on wrong principals. think about it, if gay marriage wasn't legal, why do they want something illegal to be legal? now try an consider this, the kid thats forcing the other kids to do shit on wrong principals, is probably wanting to make the wrong principals into good principals, because in his mind he probably thinks the good principals are seen as wrong principals to him and therefor he is trying to force a change.

Homosexuals are trying/wanting to force a change, just as this kid wanted to force a change, so what makes it right for you to KO that kid, but saying its wrong for me to KO the gay marriage issue?

if you really truly believe in evolution, then you should know that the weaker species is always going to be extincted, why? because its "survival of the fittest" and frankly, Christianity is the fittest.

So basically you think its right for Christians to force their beliefs on others which has resulted in some, if not most of history's atrocities, but wrong for two consenting people to want to live in an equal society that affects no one else?

[Nu Kua]

Somebody mentioned that homosexuals cannot reproduce. That is incorrect. A homosexual still has sperm or uterus/ovaries and can actually procreate.
Lesbian couples who desire children often have one of the women become artificially inseminated using the semen of a close friend, or if lucky, a relative of the other partner.
Males I assume would normally have to adopt- or have a female friend be willing to carry a child that was inseminated by one of the men in the partnership.
Sex is not even required to become pregnant.
I have been reading translations of some very old texts and from what I can gather, artificial insemination has been around since the most ancient of times!

[ColdBlood]

The whole reason people are afraid of alot of things is that people reject and fear what they do not understand.

[lycanox]

His hole case is made around the idea that if something bad like rape is natural, all natural things are bad. Thus homosexuality is also bad.

However positive things like heterosexual love, friendship, helping people and forgiveness is also natural. So following his logic he should consider that stuff evil as well.

[cmar1965]

WOW! What an interesting thread.

Just a few things to Eco.

Yes, dogs lick their arses and their balls too! I have no doubt whatsoever if you were flexible enough, you would be heading "downtown" to do the latter at least at any given opportunity. Some "action" in the nether-regions is better than what you are obviously getting now.

Do you have an issue with homosexuality as a whole or just the act of anal sex? Do you have issue with girl on girl action as the bible says nothing about a woman not being allowed to lay with a woman as she would with a man.

Do you have issue with pre-marital hetrosexual intercourse as well?

You also claim to be a christian but an alleged fundamental of "jesus speak" was to love thy neighbour. I never noticed a disclaimer there stating "unless of course they are gay".

Your example of rape of lesbian women in Africa speaks volumes and no "REAL MAN" would rape a women, gay or otherwise anyway, so it appears that those who committed the violations are nothing but domineering mysognist twats who cannot get their "wicks" wet without scare tactics and force. It is people like this who have no control over their own lives, so they have to try ANY WAY THEY CAN to control others.

You aren't like that are you Eco?

Homosexuality IS despite what your quoted sites tell you IS born within certain people. It is that simple and that is what unconditional love is all about. We cannot help who we fall in love with and frankly it is not up for anyone else to decide WHO we love is right or wrong. Homosexuality is not ONLY about sexual acts. Of course there are promiscuous homosexuals, just as there are promiscuous hetrosexuals, but I know of MANY homosexual monogomous couples who have been life partners for decades and have lived wonderfully happy, fulfilling lives! Just look at the divorce rate to see that hetro's cannot make the same claims of happiness.

What SIN is there in happiness, Eco and why are you so against others finding it and expressing it on their OWN terms, rather than YOURS?

Perhaps if more people minded their own business, rather than that of others, "hate" OF others wouldn't even come into the equation.

Love and understand yourself FIRST Eco and love for others, no matter who, will automatically follow.;-)

------

Oh to address the original question.

No I am not a homophobe.

[Mystery]

Eco,
Please stop spouting all the Christian talk, cuz you are ruining the name for the rest of us who actually live what we preach. "Love your neighbor, Treat others as you wish to be treated, Love the sinner not the sin(if you see this as a sin), and need I go on. No not really. You are just another who gets off on ruffling the feathers of others and using God's name as your sword. I highly doubt he appriciates that.

[ecosikz]

Eco,
Please stop spouting all the Christian talk, cuz you are ruining the name for the rest of us who actually live what we preach.

ruining what name? the name people hate! The name the sinners dispised! The name isn't ruined! your ruined! you don't want to help them! they are your neighbors! your neighbors need help mystery, so wtf are you going to do? are you not going to help your neighbor, Do you love your neighbor!!!!!!! DO YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR MYSTERY?! dO YOU LOVE YOR HELPLESS NEIGHBOR WHO WOULDN'T BE SO FUCKING HELPLESS IF YOU COULD OF JUST HELPED HIM WHEN HE WAS IN NEED OF IT! WHY! WHY MYSTERY?!! WHY DIDN'T YOU HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR?!!!!!!!!!! WHY?!

"Love your neighbor

and follow the path of righteousness that the good Lord has paved for us, help those who need help, give to those who have nothing, spread the word of God to those who are mislead.

Treat others as you wish to be treated, Love the sinner not the sin(if you see this as a sin), and need I go on.

I 'm ok with the sinner, but I'm not like you mystery who only cares about thyself. I question people mystery, not God. I will not stand down, you care what people think of you, the people you call Christians are not selfish! You call yourself a Christian because you believe in God and learned the teachings of his own begotten Son? come on mystery, tell me what a Christian is, tell me why I should believe the sinner's own hand can save them from the wrath of God.

You are just another who gets off on ruffling the feathers of others and using God's name as your sword. I highly doubt he appriciates that.

I highly doubt he appreciates you not loving your neighbor enough to actually help them.

So basically you think its right for Christians to force their beliefs on others which has resulted in some, if not most of history's atrocities, but wrong for two consenting people to want to live in an equal society that affects no one else?

affects no one else? there will always be something that will affect someone, which reminds me, lycanox said humans are animals, thus when an animal feels threatened, it naturally attacks the 1 whose doing the threatening..

Somebody mentioned that homosexuals cannot reproduce. That is incorrect. A homosexual still has sperm or uterus/ovaries and can actually procreate.
Lesbian couples who desire children often have one of the women become artificially inseminated using the semen of a close friend, or if lucky, a relative of the other partner.

but its not natural, if 2 homosexual women were able to naturally reproduce they wouldn't need a fucking sperm bank! they wouldn't need males!

Males I assume would normally have to adopt

really?! omg don't you get it?! I don't think so, wait! I know so! if 2 homosexual men were the only fucking species on earth and were able to reproduce they wouldn't need to adopt! so obviously your argument is weak and pathetic.

or have a female friend be willing to carry a child that was inseminated by one of the men in the partnership.

so 2 men can't reproduce naturally? naturally meaning: without help from another gender/sex.

Sex is not even required to become pregnant.

LOL!

I have been reading translations of some very old texts and from what I can gather, artificial insemination has been around since the most ancient of times!

ya and if there wasn't 2 different sexes, we wouldn't exist.

The whole reason people are afraid of alot of things is that people reject and fear what they do not understand.

oh! but I do understand, I'm just testing their so called "evidence" which some claim it to be full proof. so all I'm trying to do is show them, that their evidence is actually full of shit.

His hole case is made around the idea that if something bad like rape is natural, all natural things are bad. Thus homosexuality is also bad.

but if rape is natural thus has the ability to reproduce.. how is it bad? unlike rape, homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they need some "HELP" from the opposite sex, thus using the males semen with the females egg, why? because thats the only way they'll be able to reproduce. so if 2 homosexuals can't reproduce, they become extincted.

However positive things like heterosexual love, friendship, helping people and forgiveness is also natural. So following his logic he should consider that stuff evil as well.

My logic is that 2 homosexual men/women cannot reproduce naturally, thus if there was any interference (insemination) it would be unnatural. Kindness is not always natural..

WOW! What an interesting thread.

Just a few things to Eco.

ok.

Yes, dogs lick their arses and their balls too! I have no doubt whatsoever if you were flexible enough, you would be heading "downtown" to do the latter at least at any given opportunity. Some "action" in the nether-regions is better than what you are obviously getting now.

Do you have an issue with homosexuality as a whole or just the act of anal sex?

both

Do you have issue with girl on girl action as the bible says nothing about a woman not being allowed to lay with a woman as she would with a man.

yes I do, just because it isn't written in the bible ,that doesn't change the fact that its immoral, degrading, and unnatural.

Do you have issue with pre-marital hetrosexual intercourse as well?

yes I have an issue with pre-marital heterosexual intercourse.

[quote=cmar1965;220332] You also claim to be a christian but an alleged fundamental of "jesus speak" was to love thy neighbour. I never noticed a disclaimer there stating "unless of course they are gay". I will always love Humanity, but that doesn't mean I will agree with everything they do!

Your example of rape of lesbian women in Africa speaks volumes and no "REAL MAN" would rape a women, gay or otherwise anyway, so it appears that those who committed the violations are nothing but domineering mysognist twats who cannot get their "wicks" wet without scare tactics and force.

The offenders, the rapists, they are men and nothing less.

It is people like this who have no control over their own lives

maybe they do have control over the lives, but they just would like to control somebody else's life, you know, for fun.

You aren't like that are you Eco?

soeny

[quote=cmar1965;220332] Homosexuality IS despite what your quoted sites tell you IS born within certain people.[quote] thus they are the weakest species and will become naturaly extincted, but since this is the future and man doesn't really give a shit if its natural or not.

It is that simple and that is what unconditional love is all about.

tell me whats wrong with this story:
a homosexual husband and his heterosexual wife are married, but the wife can't seem to arouse her husband , he has not sexual feels torwards his wife, so what does he do? he gets in his car and picks up a male hooker and becomes aroused, thus having sexual feelings towards the male hooker, they become engaged thus have sex. Then afterwards the man is Sexually gratified.
Why is the man sexually gratified?
conclusion: He is a homosexual and can only be sexually gratified by having sex with the same sex, thus his wife doesn't get any sex from her husband because he isn't aroused by her, thus it becomes a bad problem..
[quote=cmar1965;220332] We cannot help who we fall in love with and frankly it is not up for anyone else to decide WHO we love is right or wrong. Homosexuality is not ONLY about sexual acts.

Of course there are promiscuous homosexuals, just as there are promiscuous hetrosexuals, but I know of MANY homosexual monogomous couples who have been life partners for decades and have lived wonderfully happy, fulfilling lives!

happy fullfilling lives? LOL!! married people do that say that shit all the time! oh we have a very good happy marriage, oh really? so you don't agree to disagree on issues? you should know by now cmar people who say they have a good happy marriage are stupid pathetic liars!

Just look at the divorce rate to see that hetro's cannot make the same claims of happiness.

a happiness doesn't last long.. its only temporary .

What SIN is there in happiness, Eco and why are you so against others finding it and expressing it on their OWN terms, rather than YOURS?

Happiness is limited , thus its time to wake up and smell the roses cmar, happiness doesn't last forever its limited, just like everyone and everything else.

Perhaps if more people minded their own business, rather than that of others, "hate" OF others wouldn't even come into the equation.

there will always be unlimited amounts of hatred, minded our own business?! fuck you! the parents of kids in public schools are making it their business! thats their kids! the knowledge of what these teachers are teaching their students is the parents business! sure there are some parents who don't really give a flying fuck about what their kids are being taught in school but alot of parents do actually give a shit and definitely wont stand for it!

FIRST Eco and love for others, no matter who, will automatically follow.;-)

I love others.. I just don't agree with that their doing, thus if they don't like what I have to say, they can fuck off.

[ecosikz]

Eco,
Please stop spouting all the Christian talk, cuz you are ruining the name for the rest of us who actually live what we preach.

ruining what name? the name people hate! The name the sinners dispised! The name isn't ruined! your ruined! you don't want to help them! they are your neighbors! your neighbors need help mystery, so wtf are you going to do? are you not going to help your neighbor, Do you love your neighbor!!!!!!! DO YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR MYSTERY?! dO YOU LOVE YOR HELPLESS NEIGHBOR WHO WOULDN'T BE SO FUCKING HELPLESS IF YOU COULD OF JUST HELPED HIM WHEN HE WAS IN NEED OF IT! WHY! WHY MYSTERY?!! WHY DIDN'T YOU HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR?!!!!!!!!!! WHY?!

"Love your neighbor

and follow the path of righteousness that the good Lord has paved for us, help those who need help, give to those who have nothing, spread the word of God to those who are mislead.

Treat others as you wish to be treated, Love the sinner not the sin(if you see this as a sin), and need I go on.

I 'm ok with the sinner, but I'm not like you mystery who only cares about thyself. I question people mystery, not God. I will not stand down, you care what people think of you, the people you call Christians are not selfish! You call yourself a Christian because you believe in God and learned the teachings of his own begotten Son? come on mystery, tell me what a Christian is, tell me why I should believe the sinner's own hand can save them from the wrath of God.

You are just another who gets off on ruffling the feathers of others and using God's name as your sword. I highly doubt he appriciates that.

I highly doubt he appreciates you not loving your neighbor enough to actually help them.

So basically you think its right for Christians to force their beliefs on others which has resulted in some, if not most of history's atrocities, but wrong for two consenting people to want to live in an equal society that affects no one else?

affects no one else? there will always be something that will affect someone, which reminds me, lycanox said humans are animals, thus when an animal feels threatened, it naturally attacks the 1 whose doing the threatening..

Somebody mentioned that homosexuals cannot reproduce. That is incorrect. A homosexual still has sperm or uterus/ovaries and can actually procreate.
Lesbian couples who desire children often have one of the women become artificially inseminated using the semen of a close friend, or if lucky, a relative of the other partner.

but its not natural, if 2 homosexual women were able to naturally reproduce they wouldn't need a fucking sperm bank! they wouldn't need males!

Males I assume would normally have to adopt

really?! omg don't you get it?! I don't think so, wait! I know so! if 2 homosexual men were the only fucking species on earth and were able to reproduce they wouldn't need to adopt! so obviously your argument is weak and pathetic.

or have a female friend be willing to carry a child that was inseminated by one of the men in the partnership.

so 2 men can't reproduce naturally? naturally meaning: without help from another gender/sex.

Sex is not even required to become pregnant.

LOL!

I have been reading translations of some very old texts and from what I can gather, artificial insemination has been around since the most ancient of times!

ya and if there wasn't 2 different sexes, we wouldn't exist.

The whole reason people are afraid of alot of things is that people reject and fear what they do not understand.

oh! but I do understand, I'm just testing their so called "evidence" which some claim it to be full proof. so all I'm trying to do is show them, that their evidence is actually full of shit.

His hole case is made around the idea that if something bad like rape is natural, all natural things are bad. Thus homosexuality is also bad.

but if rape is natural thus has the ability to reproduce.. how is it bad? unlike rape, homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they need some "HELP" from the opposite sex, thus using the males semen with the females egg, why? because thats the only way they'll be able to reproduce. so if 2 homosexuals can't reproduce, they become extincted.

However positive things like heterosexual love, friendship, helping people and forgiveness is also natural. So following his logic he should consider that stuff evil as well.

My logic is that 2 homosexual men/women cannot reproduce naturally, thus if there was any interference (insemination) it would be unnatural. Kindness is not always natural..

WOW! What an interesting thread.

Just a few things to Eco.

ok.

Yes, dogs lick their arses and their balls too! I have no doubt whatsoever if you were flexible enough, you would be heading "downtown" to do the latter at least at any given opportunity. Some "action" in the nether-regions is better than what you are obviously getting now.

Do you have an issue with homosexuality as a whole or just the act of anal sex?

both

Do you have issue with girl on girl action as the bible says nothing about a woman not being allowed to lay with a woman as she would with a man.

yes I do, just because it isn't written in the bible ,that doesn't change the fact that its immoral, degrading, and unnatural.

Do you have issue with pre-marital hetrosexual intercourse as well?

yes I have an issue with pre-marital heterosexual intercourse.

You also claim to be a christian but an alleged fundamental of "jesus speak" was to love thy neighbour. I never noticed a disclaimer there stating "unless of course they are gay".

I will always love Humanity, but that doesn't mean I will agree with everything they do!

Your example of rape of lesbian women in Africa speaks volumes and no "REAL MAN" would rape a women, gay or otherwise anyway, so it appears that those who committed the violations are nothing but domineering mysognist twats who cannot get their "wicks" wet without scare tactics and force.

The offenders, the rapists, they are men and nothing less.

It is people like this who have no control over their own lives

maybe they do have control over the lives, but they just would like to control somebody else's life, you know, for fun.

You aren't like that are you Eco?

soeny

Homosexuality IS despite what your quoted sites tell you IS born within certain people.

thus they are the weakest species and will become naturaly extincted, but since this is the future and man doesn't really give a shit if its natural or not.

It is that simple and that is what unconditional love is all about.

tell me whats wrong with this story:
a homosexual husband and his heterosexual wife are married, but the wife can't seem to arouse her husband , he has not sexual feels torwards his wife, so what does he do? he gets in his car and picks up a male hooker and becomes aroused, thus having sexual feelings towards the male hooker, they become engaged thus have sex. Then afterwards the man is Sexually gratified.
Why is the man sexually gratified?
conclusion: He is a homosexual and can only be sexually gratified by having sex with the same sex, thus his wife doesn't get any sex from her husband because he isn't aroused by her, thus it becomes a bad problem..

We cannot help who we fall in love with and frankly it is not up for anyone else to decide WHO we love is right or wrong. Homosexuality is not ONLY about sexual acts. Of course there are promiscuous homosexuals, just as there are promiscuous hetrosexuals, but I know of MANY homosexual monogomous couples who have been life partners for decades and have lived wonderfully happy, fulfilling lives!

happy fullfilling lives? LOL!! married people do that say that shit all the time! oh we have a very good happy marriage, oh really? so you don't agree to disagree on issues? you should know by now cmar people who say they have a good happy marriage are stupid pathetic liars!

Just look at the divorce rate to see that hetro's cannot make the same claims of happiness.

a happiness doesn't last long.. its only temporary .

What SIN is there in happiness, Eco and why are you so against others finding it and expressing it on their OWN terms, rather than YOURS?

Happiness is limited , thus its time to wake up and smell the roses cmar, happiness doesn't last forever its limited, just like everyone and everything else.

Perhaps if more people minded their own business, rather than that of others, "hate" OF others wouldn't even come into the equation.

there will always be unlimited amounts of hatred, minded our own business?! fuck you! the parents of kids in public schools are making it their business! thats their kids! the knowledge of what these teachers are teaching their students is the parents business! sure there are some parents who don't really give a flying fuck about what their kids are being taught in school but alot of parents do actually give a shit and definitely wont stand for it!

FIRST Eco and love for others, no matter who, will automatically follow.;-)

I love others.. I just don't agree with that their doing, thus if they don't like what I have to say, they can fuck off.

[cmar1965]

Eco,

I see your crankly pants are a nice snug fit, even constrictiing. Perhaps that is part of the problem. I assume somone having a constant wedgie would make them as upset as you appear to be.

Before I reply to you any further as to this, I would really like to know if you have actually ever been in at least a boyfriend/girlfriend style relationship?

If you would be so kind as to answer that question I would appreciate it and will then reply to you in full.

Thank you in advance and I look forward to your reply.

[lycanox]

but if rape is natural thus has the ability to reproduce.. how is it bad? unlike rape, homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they need some "HELP" from the opposite sex, thus using the males semen with the females egg, why? because thats the only way they'll be able to reproduce. so if 2 homosexuals can't reproduce, they become extincted.

My logic is that 2 homosexual men/women cannot reproduce naturally, thus if there was any interference (insemination) it would be unnatural. Kindness is not always natural..

However, Homosexuality is a recessive trait. So it is possible that people that have the trait and pass it to their children withoud ever becoming intrested to the same sex.

Just like gingerbread children can have normal brothers, sisters or parents.

[ecosikz]

Eco,

I see your crankly pants are a nice snug fit, even constrictiing. Perhaps that is part of the problem. I assume somone having a constant wedgie would make them as upset as you appear to be.

Before I reply to you any further as to this, I would really like to know if you have actually ever been in at least a boyfriend/girlfriend style relationship?

If you would be so kind as to answer that question I would appreciate it and will then reply to you in full.

Thank you in advance and I look forward to your reply.

No I have never had a girlfriend, why? because I feel as though women in the 20's to early 30's are immature, I've studied a lot about these kind of relationships and I don't have to read books about it to clearly have a strong belief about it, its just like studying and watching a person smoke for years, later down the road, they suffer from lung cancer, thus someone else is subject 1,2,3,and etc, to my study and experiment, so this way I don't actually get harmed, subject 1,2,3,and etc get harmed.

btw, it kind of gets upsetting when your debating with 3-4 people by yourself, but I must deal with it and calm down.

However, Homosexuality is a recessive trait.

how can the trait be transfered to the offspring of the 2 homosexuals, when I just proved 2 homosexuals can reproduce naturally.

So it is possible that people that have the trait and pass it to their children withoud ever becoming intrested to the same sex.

Homosexuality isn't apart of evolution, why? because 2 homosexuals can't reproduce, so their species becomes extincted.

[Perfectionist]

So EcoWipe ..... it's obviously had a major effect on you and caused lasting damage ..... perhaps talking about it would heal your wounds ..... don't worry, we won't judge you so you can be honest here ..... tell us .....

When exactly did you have your fist gay relationship ??

Did the fact you enjoyed anal and oral penetration shock you ??

After he dumped you, why do you feel you have never been able to get over him ??