Got a Glock

[brodyhyde]

Someone broke into my office the other day. It pissed me off so I went out and purchased two Glocks, (G27 and G22 both .40 S&W) and applied for a carriers permit. Also going to the range everyday now.

Anyone else own a handgun? Just want to compare notes.

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[Nu Kua]

Wow. Somehow, that's sexy.
I have been thinking of purchasing a hand gun. Not sure what would be good for a first timer.

[brodyhyde]

Wow. Somehow, that's sexy.
I have been thinking of purchasing a hand gun. Not sure what would be good for a first timer.

I think you should try a 9mm. Less recoil, cheaper ammo and good stopping power. Go to the range and try out some different types. Also get one with a poly receiver so its not heavy ;)

[olddragon]

I carry a Glock22 with light and have Taurus Millennium Pro as backup, both 40SW.
I'm thinking about hand loading my own ammo.
Ammo is getting pricey.

Weight will reduce the muzzle flip.

[brodyhyde]

I carry a Glock22 with light and have Taurus Millennium Pro as backup, both 40SW.
I'm thinking about hand loading my own ammo.
Ammo is getting pricey.

Weight will reduce the muzzle flip.

I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe the price of ammo. I get remanufactured stuff for the range, but thats still like 15 bucks for a box of 50.

Do you have any shotguns?

[olddragon]

Shotguns, yes and rifles and a slingshot if needed.
I do use my Bow now and then.

Don't use any plain lead in your Glock, bad for your health.
Builds up in the barrel=boom in your face.

[serge_regulator]

I always recommend a 357 for a revolver and a 9mm for a semi-auto. When using the 357 for home defense try to use .38 calibre ammunition. It fits in the 357 perfectly and wont go through your intruder, your wall, your neighbors wall, your neighbor, etc. Also, use hollow point rounds which typically do not remain intact after the first impact. The brands I recommend are Glock and Taurus/Beretta for semi-auto and Smith & Wesson, Ruger, and Colt for revolvers.

I also highly recommend a hand gun safety course with hands-on training. I took one and was so impressed I learned all the material and taught family and friends a course similar to the courses currently offered by NRA instructors. If the course you take is similar you will learn alot about all kinds of handguns, ammunition, gun powder, etc. You will also learn how to handle them safely, load aim and fire, clean, etc. You will also get to try several different calibres and types of weapons which is a great opportunity to find out what kind of gun you should get.

No handgun safety class will teach you the legalities of owning/carrying/using a weapon other than the basics which apply directly to them. They dont want to assume the liability if you act on their advice incorrectly. You need to investigate that for yourself.

Another aspect of handgun ownership I highly recommend is taking the time to do your self-analysis before you find yourself in a life or death situation. Sit yourself down and ask yourself honestly, "If the situation arises, will I actually shoot someone in self defense or in the defense of my family?" Now is the time to ask yourself that question AND give yourself an honest answer, NOT when someone is coming at you with a butcher knife and you have two seconds to decide how you are going to react.

Also, when at the firing range you should be using the proper safety equipment: proper glasses and ear protection. The range will be well lit and the guns will be loud, but not deafening when you wear ear plugs. That is the problem. Talk to the range master and ask if you can have the lights reduced approximately 50% and fire a few rounds without ear protection. It will help you to see the muzzle blast and to hear what a gun actually sounds like in close quarters. I have heard too many times about people who had to fire a gun in self defense in the middle of the night and were so scared by the muzzle flash and noise that the bad guys almost killed them while they stood there gawking at the bright flash of light.

And always follow the basic rules:

1) Treat every gun as though it is loaded and ready to fire until you verify FOR YOURSELF that it is not. Do NOT take anyone elses word for it - even if you just saw them pull the trigger and nothing happened.

2) NEVER point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot.

3) NEVER put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.

4) Always check your line-of-sight BEFORE firing. (look in front of and behind your target to make sure there is nothing in the line of fire or about to be)

5) Leave the safety on and the trigger locked if you live alone. If you live with others, especially children, store the gun locked and un-loaded and do not keep the ammunition in the same place as the gun. Of course it needs to be nearby in order to be of any use in an emergency, but use your head when storing it.

Keep a full magazine handy but do not leave a round under the pin of a semi-auto and keep a full speed-loader handy for a revolver.

I am a big advocate of the right to bear arms but I am also very big on gun safety. Please dont be a statistic.

[serge_regulator]

Don't use any plain lead in your Glock, bad for your health.
Builds up in the barrel=boom in your face.

Excellent advice. Use jacketed rounds and you wont have that problem.

[brodyhyde]

Shotguns, yes and rifles and a slingshot if needed.
I do use my Bow now and then.

Don't use any plain lead in your Glock, bad for your health.
Builds up in the barrel=boom in your face.

I was reading that you shouldn't shoot hollow points out of Glocks for that very reason. Something about the chamber lacking full support in the rear. Just to be safe, I use FMJ ammo and clean out the barrel well every time I use the gun. I think the results will ultimately be the same with FMJ anyway.

[brodyhyde]

Another aspect of handgun ownership I highly recommend is taking the time to do your self-analysis before you find yourself in a life or death situation. Sit yourself down and ask yourself honestly, "If the situation arises, will I actually shoot someone in self defense or in the defense of my family?" Now is the time to ask yourself that question AND give yourself an honest answer, NOT when someone is coming at you with a butcher knife and you have two seconds to decide how you are going to react.

I have thought about this, and I will absolutely shoot someone if I feel like I or anyone I love is in danger. I would never pull a gun unless I was going to use it. Wouldn't want to have it taken away from me and wind up getting shot with my own gun.

This is good advice, but yes, I have no problem potentially killing someone if it comes down to it. Once your a father, your whole outlook on things is altered.

[Nu Kua]

I also highly recommend a hand gun safety course with hands-on training. I took one and was so impressed I learned all the material and taught family and friends a course similar to the courses currently offered by NRA instructors. If the course you take is similar you will learn alot about all kinds of handguns, ammunition, gun powder, etc. You will also learn how to handle them safely, load aim and fire, clean, etc. You will also get to try several different calibres and types of weapons which is a great opportunity to find out what kind of gun you should get.

I'll do this first.
I did not know you could try out different types of guns on these ranges and classes. I thought you had to come in already with a gun.
Thanks for your points and advice.
(Dragon and Brody as well)
Now all of you, move close by me, so I'll be surrounded by men who are probably good shots.
The hunting here is great!

[Crimepunisher]

What is with the obsession with Glocks? I mean, they're nice little handguns but it seems like everyone needs one.

Always preferred the trusty M1911 Colts. Pretty much every male in my family has carried one in the service and out.

[Smoke]

In the military once I attain a higher rank beside the c7 assault rifle I will be packin one of these Im gonna post the specs for both here though.

Browning Pistol

The Browning 9-mm pistol is carried by officers and soldiers who require a sidearm that can be rapidly drawn and fired, even in confined spaces. The pistol consists of a barrel, a slide, a breech block, a frame, and a 13 round magazine.

Specifications:
Cartridge: 9mm x 19mm
Weight: 1 kg (with empty magazine)
Length: 19.69 cm
Muzzle Velocity: 350 m/s

C7A1 Assualt Rifle

The C7A1 is an improved version of the basic C7 combat rifle, incorporating a low-mounted 3.5x optical sight. It is a Canadian adaptation of a U.S. firearm known as the M16A1E1. Attachments include the M203A1 40mm grenade launcher, the AN PAQ 4 Laser pointer and the Image Intensification Night Sight (Kite sight). It has been in service with the Army since 1986.

Specifications:
Cartridge: 5.56 mm x 45 mm NATO
Rate of Fire: cyclic, 700 to 940 rounds per minute
Magazine: 30 rounds
Weight: empty - 3.3kg, full - 3.9kg
Length: normal butt, 1.0 m
Barrel Length: 530 mm
Effective Range: 400 m

the C7 is standard issue, the c7a2 is the new upgrade, I will be walking around with the a2 for pretty much the rest of my military career


Fantastic peice your packin dude, hope it keeps you safe :)

[Crimepunisher]

Browning Pistol

The Browning 9-mm pistol is carried by officers and soldiers who require a sidearm that can be rapidly drawn and fired, even in confined spaces. The pistol consists of a barrel, a slide, a breech block, a frame, and a 13 round magazine.

Specifications:
Cartridge: 9mm x 19mm
Weight: 1 kg (with empty magazine)
Length: 19.69 cm
Muzzle Velocity: 350 m/s

There's a classic. Still ticking after 80 years. Even the Krauts wanted to get their hands on these back in the day.

[Smoke]

also if you guys want, this is the rest of the arsenal I will be lugging around as an infantry man, some GOOOD weapons there!

http://www.kingsown.ca/equipment.htm

[Lightmind]

It's been said that 100% richochet is impossible....

This ones about 99.9%

[Smoke]

It's been said that 100% richochet is impossible....

This ones about 99.9%

LOL did you hear that pig whistle right back into his head that right there would have been a sign to get down!

[Lightmind]

lol.... question is.... when you hear it.... where you gonna run?

It hits bout 6ft in front off him...from what looks like almost 300m target....God does not play dice!

Nothing to do with Glocks BTW.... just thought it was funny.....particularly the words after.

[equalizer]

I have a Glock 19 and I love it. I've had it for about two years now and I do have a concealed weapons permit. In fact its on my right hip right now in a inside the waist band shirt tucker holster. I carry pretty much everywhere except in places the law does not allow like my favorite watering hole.

[proffett]

I am thinking about getting my concealed carry as well. I don't own a gun at the moment (we sold all of ours to pay some bills :( ) but we plan on building up our arsenal here in the very near future. I had a revolver, semiautomatic 9mm, rifle, shotgun, and this massive 45 handgun. Fun times. I'm not very technical about the names at all, I just enjoy shooting them lol..

I have no problem shooting someone if I or any loved one is threatened, no problem at all. There have been alot of beatings/ murders and rapes in our metroparks lately. I go to the parks and walk on the trails almost daily with my kids, that's why I would like to carry a gun. Safety.

[serge_regulator]

What is with the obsession with Glocks? I mean, they're nice little handguns but it seems like everyone needs one.

Always preferred the trusty M1911 Colts. Pretty much every male in my family has carried one in the service and out.

Its kind of funny but before the Die Hard movies there wasnt much interest in Glock guns. In Die Hard 2 Bruce Willis shows one to the Chief of Air Port Security and says, "That punk pulled a GLOCK 7 on me. You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it costs more than you make here in a month."

Well, there is no model 7 Glock and Glock doesnt make a gun made of porcelain. But, gun shops all over the country were swamped with phone calls from people who wanted one.

One of the reasons Glocks are popular now is because the frame is a bit narrower than other manufacturers. This makes the gun a better fit for most women's hands (who are buying as many guns as men now) and also presents a slimmer profile making it easier to conceal.

[Lightmind]

However, if lightweight and concealability are not a consideration....

You could always have one of these.

[DaSoviet]

In the military once I attain a higher rank beside the c7 assault rifle I will be packin one of these Im gonna post the specs for both here though.

You might wanna check that Smoke.

It was like that until recently for the British. But now every NATO infantry soldier going to war is to issued with P226 Sig Sauer.

To defend themselves in CQB against potential suicide bombers I think.

I could be wrong but I know its like that for us now (still in the process of getting enough for everyone).

I would actually recommend the P226 Sig. Very light weight and not as wide as the Glock.

[Smoke]

our military police are issued those guns.

[olddragon]

Many units have gone back to carrying 45 colt, there is a move underway to go back to 45 for all US troops.

Para makes a excellent 45.
My son teaches marksmanship and CQC to police and military.
He prefers a 45 for shear stopping power.

The Glock is a simpler design than the Colt, fewer parts. Very accurate.