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Nov 21st, 2008 3:46 PM #1
History's Greatest Conspiracy Theories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pict...n-history.html
It lists the top 30 conspiracy theories of all time. LOL too fun. I think we've hit on all of them in these forums.
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Nov 21st, 2008 4:07 PM #2Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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Only the top of the iceberg, I guess.
I couldnt help to miss.
The Rudolph Hess flight.
The Hitler is alive conspiracy.
Nibiru/planetX.
US created chupacabra and accidentally let is escape.
Tolkin Bay.
Reptilians.
The matrix.
Bermuda triangle.
Mary Celeste.
The alleged south African/Israeli nuclear test.
Organized Religion.
The German experiments with the feraliminal lycanthropizer.
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Nov 21st, 2008 4:12 PM #3
What?.... You mean those things aren't fact???!!!
How about these?
Saddam Hussein's fake hanging
Osama Bin Ladin is CIA
The recent Chinese Earthuqakes"When you gaze long into the Abyss, the Abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Nov 21st, 2008 4:21 PM #4
ROFLMAO....a nice hit there dude.......should get the backs up of most of us on here.
I''l start
Global warming....yeah I don't believe in it...it's callled Climate Change and it's not caused by man, unless of course unleaded petrol increases temps on Mars and Neptune, both of which are experienceing temp rises of 2degC lately, much like Earth.
H1N1....I thought that was in the Klingon Sector...illogical.
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Nov 21st, 2008 4:31 PM #5Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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However to say that our emmisions do not have a serious negative effect on the enviroment and public health is ridiculous. And considering the believe that there is no reason to cut emmisions is the core of the conspiracy I would still toss the conspiracy in the garbage bin.

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Nov 21st, 2008 5:30 PM #6
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Nov 21st, 2008 5:53 PM #7Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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I do believe that mankind has made a lasting impact on the earths climate. If it isnt through emmisions, its through desertification, cutting forrests, building large cities etcetrica.
However the conspiracy is about the idea there is no reason to cut our pollution. Whether or not there is climate change through emission is nothing more than a scientific discussion as the bad effects of pollution are already proven in other fields.
Proving that saringas does not give you a headache does not make the gas safe to breath.
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Nov 21st, 2008 7:26 PM #8
You said that mankind has made a lasting impact on the earth's climate. I don't think I can agree with you on this. I can agree we need to cut pollution. I like clean water and clean air. The conspiracy here is weather or not man can change the climate. In my opinion the only true conspiracy here is how much control governments can have over what we do and how they can " Tax " what we do.
I think climate change is beyond our control at this time. I wish I could say the same for government.
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Nov 21st, 2008 11:13 PM #9
DVD real funny stuff. I guess some of it is grain of salt stuff. Go to project avalon forums. There are tons of people who believe this shit. It is a hoot!
Doin' what I can, with what I got.
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Nov 22nd, 2008 9:21 AM #10
Oh, you mean fact based?

Sorry I couldn't resist.
To answer your question although it wasn't asked of me, I think science has proven climate goes through vast changes periodically, as well as the fact that it is obvious that the humans have done much to destroy the biological integrity of the earths self sustaining support systems.
Yes, climate change in and of itself is a natural occurrence, but I would find it hard to believe that humanity before has reached this level of gross injustice to the Earth and its resources- which is the life support system for everything else that emerges on Earth. I think if not stopped soon enough, that human encroachment of the Earths support systems will cause it to not be able to recover as well from the natural dips and changes in the cycles.
One day perhaps the Earth will simply shrug humans off her shoulders so she can begin the process of self-repair again, before it is too late."The Alice-in-Wonderland nature of this pronouncement is not lost on me..."
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Nov 22nd, 2008 2:32 PM #11
That is a good answer Nu Kua. I do think we need to take better care of our planet. And just as I clould find plenty of scientist that say man is not the cause for climate change you could find a lot that say we are. Yes we need clean water, and we should do are best not to pollute the air. I still think most of the global warming / climate change is a conspiracy. Governments are always looking for a way to take your money and control you. It is even better if you believe in why you pay more and give up more of your freedom. Who wouldn't want to save the planet. If anyone can tell me how carbon offsets do anything to help clean up anything, please do.
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Nov 22nd, 2008 11:39 PM #12
i believe the biggest conspiracy is the one that says there are no conspiracies.
if i offend you, you are part of the fucking problem.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 1:03 PM #13
I tend to agree, uki... go figure.
"When you gaze long into the Abyss, the Abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Nov 23rd, 2008 4:52 PM #14
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Nov 23rd, 2008 6:35 PM #15
Well I can tell you one conspiracy that I do believe in. It is the one where you get up in the morning, put on your pants and shirt, and pull on your boots and go to work. You come home dead tired, drink a beer, pass out. Next day same thing. I did that for 40 flipping years. It is the biggest conspiracy of all, called the enslavement of the human race! And what's more it isn't a theory, it is a factual conspiracy.
Last edited by Ricfly52; Nov 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 PM.
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Nov 27th, 2008 2:29 PM #16
Interesting that HAARP is thrown in there. Since its a relatively new theory and by no means one of the 30 greats. Interesting also that the Telegraph is publishing tongue in cheek stories like this for, well, shits and giggles, really.
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Dec 11th, 2008 12:55 PM #17Dead Meat
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Sorry, just saw this thread.
I remember seeing a 20/20 (US Investigative Reporting Show on ABC - for those who may not know) report by John Stossel(sp) which pointed out all the fallacies of the environmental movement. The facts were surprising. The air is MUCH cleaner today than it was in 1970 when the environmental movement started, the water is MUCH cleaner today than 1970, our homes are MUCH less polluted, Cars are more than 90% cleaner, R12 has been replaced by environmentally friendly refridgerant, CFC's are no longer used in aerosal cans,... etc... right down the line. The earth is MUCH cleaner today than it was in 1970. It's a fact. Now, all this could change as third world countries develop without regards to environmental laws but as things stand today - the world is much cleaner than before.
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Dec 15th, 2008 3:59 AM #19Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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That of the Weather control and earthquakes is most likely nonsense. But the Russians have voiced some concern that HAARP technology could be used to cause EMP on the northern hemisphere.

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Dec 15th, 2008 4:01 AM #20Leader of the n00b shelter
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HAARP technology is full of shit. If it was real then the world goverments would of use it for war, and people would of notice.
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Dec 15th, 2008 11:32 PM #21One left in the chamber Global Moderator
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Yeah but he didn't say that, he said climate change is a natural event. Which is true.
Probably the biggest hoax ( Conspiracy) ever played on society is the myth of man made climate, and a damned good marketing scam !! Ya gotta love the word choice.... "Environmentally friendly"..... everybody has peace of mind when they load their dish washer with low grade caustic soda thats one step under battery acid.
when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature
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Dec 16th, 2008 7:08 AM #22Iam puppy, hear me yap. Global Moderator
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However that does not mean that those drastic actions in kyoto are not needed. As there are plenty of other good reasons behind those.
And since the core of the conspiracy is that those actions are not needed.
The conspiracy is still nonsense, And the question whether or not we are behind climate change a purely scientific discussion.
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