Camps to Open? 'Preventative Detention Plan'

[James Random]

Yeah so much for CHANGE. This is almost a 180 turn from his policy of giving terrorists constitutional rights.

WASHINGTON — President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

New York Times

[Traveler]

So what happened was in the past a whole lot of people got arrested that should not have been and now they cannot be let go. So now the yanks have their own gulag.

What obama now wants to do is find ways to arrest people in the future that do not actually break any laws, ie, those that do not agree with him like republican supporters and lock them up but with some form of legal frame work that makes it look good.

That means the tea baggers and those demanding proof of his place of birth are going to be history. This is all happening at the start of his term in office. By the end of it there is the possibility that you will not even be able to vote him out anyway.

[Blu-ray]

That means the tea baggers and those demanding proof of his place of birth are going to be history. This is all happening at the start of his term in office. By the end of it there is the possibility that you will not even be able to vote him out anyway.

This sounds just like some were decrying that Bush would not get voted out of his terms and be a dictator.

Hmmmmm... did that happen?

[Mezurashi]

Here is a line from the NY Times article that caught my eye ...

Across town, his biggest Republican critic, former Vice President Dick Cheney, will deliver a speech at the American Enterprise Institute.

Mr. Cheney and other hawkish critics have sought to portray Mr. Obama as weak on terror, and their argument seems to be catching on with the public. On Tuesday, Senate Democrats, in a clear rebuke to the White House, blocked the $80 million Mr. Obama had requested in financing to close the Guantánamo prison.

The lawmakers say they want a detailed plan before releasing the money; there is deep opposition on Capitol Hill to housing terrorism suspects inside the United States.

now ... is it possible that Obama's fallback on his previous sunny side up paradigm is as a result of real world pressures put upon him by the still-existent interest groups and political string pullers? of course.

but how many people could stomach the thought that their own criticisms and demands for perfection are also behind Obama's flip flops?

I am still 'proBama' because he is still doing more good than harm overall. it's these sticky issues of 'how open do we make our borders?' and 'how do we protect our soveriegnty?' and 'how do we dig ourselves out of this economic mess?' thast create the great sensations.

he is still a better president than the last 4 Republican presidents and at least the last 3 Democratic presidents because he Hasn't Started a War yet, he hasn't pardoned political affiliates who should be have burned, and his efforts to try and untangle the furball of current geopoliticks have not been of the Sword Of Damocles sort of methods employed by the last 4 Republican Presidents.

I'm not saying he's Great - but he is better than the buckets of shite that preceded him, still to this day, despite his record thus far and most certainly despite the fact that everyone and their dog is now trying to find fault with every single aspect of his life.

as I heard from a bud at work, "Obama is like the Polar Opposite of Lady Di, with her she had all the positive media attention for being useless and a glorified breeding animal for the Windsors. He gets all the Negative media attention for not being a what people feared most, a Messiah. It's almost like the 'haters' feel let down because their Worst Fears didn't come true, only their mid-level ones."

[scott_thomas]

This sounds just like some were decrying that Bush would not get voted out of his terms and be a dictator.

Hmmmmm... did that happen?

There was talk about U.S. "detention camps" back in the Clinton era. Guess which group was yammering about it then?