Haarp

[Sirius]

I am watching this on the History Channel and i'm completely flabbergasted. Can this possibly be true, are we indirectly affecting the weather?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

I just seen a demonstration on this television show that explains how using extremely low frequency waves to affect the jet stream. There are 5 of them operated by the United States alone and they went online in 1994.

Very very interesting, and scary. These waves heat up the ionosphere, and cause it to bulge out. This changes the jet stream and can even make it flow backwards.

Between 1988 and 1992 the USSR used the low frequency waves and directed them towards the US, and they think it caused a great drought in california during that time frame.

This should really be looked into.

[lycanox]

The effect of Haarp to the ionospheres is comparable throwing an hot bucked of coffee in the Mississippi river.
And I doubt that a system as complex as the worlds climate would be influenced by it.

I doubt that it has any effect.

[New Wine]

Here's the answers I got not too long ago from the science forums:

http://forums.armageddononline.org/q...rp-t21105.html

[Mezurashi]

umm ... HAARP may be all scary and that but here's something that became 'news' during the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Please note the timeline dates ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=histo...itle&resnum=11

not that I think the aforementioned is going to have a huge effect on the Global scale, as lycanox put it, but there is a part of me that wonders about possible 'minor' effects which will be localized and and therefore not 'serious' abberations that could be linked to the tonnes of stuff they keep shooting into the clouds.

after all, weather is a complex system, which is to say we haven't the slightest clue what will happen if we try to do things to it. things like HAARP and the Chinese (and others) might produce some bad side effects but these will, most likely, not be global. the scale of the whole globe when taken in context to the energies involved, or the amount of material, makes the possibility of widespread spread unlikely - there is too much inertia to overcome.

think of it like this, a pond is pretty big for the little creatures living there - so if you let a few drops of hydrochloric acid drop into it the spot where they hit is devastated, the surroundings are hurt real bad but across the pond there is no notice nor will there be, the hydrochloric acid will have diluted into neutral by then.

so, not a high probability of global mess ups, but I don't know about local ones ...