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    Death by Hypernova?

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    Thanks go to Hans (Dutchie) who found this for me;
    - - -I would direct a reader's attention to that part of this paper that describes what could possibly happen to our satellites after a blast from this, which COULD knock them out with a gamma-ray burst, EVEN from this vast a distance. . . (could this ALSO prove to be another piece to the "Aussie Bloke" puzzle?)

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...nae_000307.htm
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    Southern skywatchers this time of year can look up and see the most
    interesting and enigmatic star in the sky -- a star of a type so remarkable
    that only a few dozen examples are known. That star is Eta Carinae, and it
    may also be the most dangerous star in the sky.

    The reason for the danger is that Eta Carinae is like a nearby volcano
    waiting to explode, but we don't know when. In the last few months, however,
    it has shown signs of new activity and it has astronomers riveted on its
    every move.

    The burning fuse

    To astronomers there are two things immediately obvious about Eta Carinae:
    It is amazingly, almost impossibly bright, shining 4 million times brighter
    than our sun. It is also wildly unstable, being prone to huge flares,
    outbursts and dizzying swings in brightness that give the impression of
    something on the verge of self-destruction - which it may well be

    What causes all this strange behavior in Eta Carinae is very simple: It's
    enormous, more than 100 times the mass of our sun. On Earth we tend to think
    of large things as being solid and stable, but in stars of this size the
    opposite is true. Their large size causes them to burn their nuclear fuel at
    an extremely rapid rate, blasting out so much heat, light and other energy
    that their outer layers are shredded, roiled and sometimes completely blown
    off in repeated violent outbursts.

    The blast in the past

    It was just such a violent outburst that first brought Eta Carinae to the
    attention of astronomers almost two centuries ago. It was first catalogued
    in 1677 as an unremarkable star, barely noticeable to the naked eye. But by
    1730 observers noticed that Eta Carinae had grown much brighter, having
    become one of the most prominent stars in its constellation.

    By 1782 it had dimmed to its former obscurity, but then in 1820 it again
    started growing and growing in brightness. By 1827 it had brightened more
    than tenfold, and by 1843 it was blazing as the second brightest star in the
    sky, outdone only by the star Sirius, which is 1,000 times closer to us.

    At the time, no one understood what could possibly cause such strange
    behavior in a star, and it wasn't until 1994 that the Hubble Space Telescope
    first revealed what had happened 150 years before: Eta Carinae had blasted
    out an enormous two-lobed bubble of hot, glowing gas. Even today it can be
    seen racing outward at one and a half million miles per hour (2.4 million
    kilometers per hour). The amount of material blasted out was enough to make
    several of our suns, but for Eta Carinae it was just the latest outburst in
    its short and violent life.

    The end of a short life

    Eta Carinae is destined to die young. Most stars live for billions of years,
    but stars as massive and active as Eta Carinae burn through their fuel in an
    extremely short time -- as short as one million years or so, very quick for
    a star. They almost always end the same way: With a supernova explosion, a
    massive detonation that blows the star apart and scatters its remains for
    trillions of miles (kilometers) around.

    That's how most supermassive stars end, but Eta Carinae is such an extreme
    case that another possibility exists: It could end as a hypernova, a
    super-supernova that at its peak will outshine the entire galaxy.

    The blazing violence of such an event is difficult to describe. Were it much
    closer it could even wipe out all life on Earth, eradicating our thin
    biosphere just like an ultraviolet lamp kills microbes. Fortunately it's not
    that close, but at 7,500 light-years it's still close enough to do some
    damage.

    However, the likely damage is not to humans directly, but to satellites and
    the upper atmosphere. That's because an explosion of this type generates
    huge amounts of high-energy radiation such as gamma rays. We on Earth are
    well shielded from gamma rays by our atmosphere, but satellites in space
    would be vulnerable and some of their electronics could be damaged by such
    an event.

    Some have speculated that a huge blast of gamma rays could also affect the
    upper atmosphere, including the ozone layer. But that remains only
    speculation, and any such effect is likely to be very transient because the
    blast of gamma rays would be fairly brief.

    The only humans who might suffer directly from Eta Carinae's violent demise
    would be astronauts in space. Outside of the Earth's protective atmosphere
    they would be subject to the same powerful radiation as satellites, with
    conceivably lethal effect. While our own sun is also capable of lethal
    emissions, such as coronal mass ejections that could be harmful to
    astronauts, the difference is that our sun's eruptions usually give us some
    warning, whereas Eta Carinae would not.

    Current warning signs

    What now has astronomers thinking again about Eta Carinae's ultimate end is
    what has happened since 1998: It has suddenly started brightening again,
    more than doubling in brightness in the last 18 months.

    This sudden change was completely unexpected. The leading theories on Eta
    Carinae held that it had entered a more stable phase during which it would
    very slowly brighten as the dust cleared from its last outburst. But instead
    it shot up in brightness in a very short time, and it continues to brighten
    while the theorists puzzle out what could be happening.

    The star we've never seen

    What makes the puzzle particularly difficult is that we have never actually
    seen Eta Carinae. When we look toward Eta Carinae or photograph it, what
    appears is not the star itself, but the huge shroud of glowing gas and dust
    it has thrown up around itself.

    The glowing shroud around Eta Carinae has led some to speculate that behind
    the shroud lies not one star, but two or more massive stars combining to
    shine so brightly. But that still doesn't explain the burning question of
    the moment: What has happened to Eta Carinae in the last few months, and
    what will happen next?

    No one really knows. Like geologists watching a trembling volcano, all we
    can do is watch and wait.

    Eta Carinae could blow anytime, or it could continue rumbling and spewing
    gas until the day, perhaps tomorrow, perhaps thousands of years from now,
    when it will suddenly let go with the most phenomenal display of violence
    ever witnessed by humans. It is now being watched almost around the clock,
    as much for the fascination as the science.

    But perhaps the ultimate knowledge we can gain from Eta Carinae is not about
    stars, but about ourselves: That on the grand scale of creation, we are puny
    creatures indeed, and fortunate to have such a protective abode. The grand
    universe is fascinating, but there's no place like home.

    - - -Submitted by Joe (Bigsky770)

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    i wouldnt be too worried, at 7500 light years we got a nice buffer zone.

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    Oh sure Stewey, that is a helluva distance,

    . . . My thinking here is that though it is, (a pretty good distance) a particularly strong gamma-ray burst COULD affect all of the hardware we have floating-around up there (we're talking quite a bit of tonnage here) and as well, RECENTLY there have been discoveries that in relationship to this issue from OUR OWN STAR, it's activity throughout history has not always been quite so-even; Forgot where the info. was at, but I believe there is conjecture that a very strong burst of "gamma" from our star could sterilize the planet. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsky770
    . . . My thinking here is that though it is, (a pretty good distance) a particularly strong gamma-ray burst COULD affect all of the hardware we have floating-around up there (we're talking quite a bit of tonnage here) and as well, RECENTLY there have been discoveries that in relationship to this issue from OUR OWN STAR, it's activity throughout history has not always been quite so-even; Forgot where the info. was at, but I believe there is conjecture that a very strong burst of "gamma" from our star could sterilize the planet. . .

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    I tried to get a discussion going on this subject and nobody seemed interested. Would you happen to have any links related to this.

    Thanks

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    Stars only release gamma rays during their deaths, and they are released the direction their poles are facing, if I remember correctly. The "comfort" zone is theorized to be 200 light years away for safety.

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    Her you go Doomer!

    - - -Here is the link you wanted (at the bottom of the post), I pasted the intro here for you as well. Pretty interesting topic, Sorry for yah it didn't garner the attention to the subject that it deserved. . .


    Cosmic Cannon: How an Exploding Star Could Fry Earth
    By Robert Roy Britt
    Senior Science Writer
    posted: 07:00 am ET
    19 June 2001
    Shooting out jets of energy or blobs of stuff the size of Earth at nearly light-speed, exploding stars called supernovae may hold more potential peril than anyone had ever imagined, according to a growing suspicion among some researchers.
    While scientists have long tried to link supernovae to mass extinctions on Earth, there is no solid evidence. But recent observations of high-energy emissions in space have some scientists suggesting that our planet may in fact get fried every now and then.


    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._010522-1.html


    - - -Submitted by Joe (Bigsky770)

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    Thanks Joe. Very interesting reading indeed.

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    If I Recall Correctly, a direct hit from a gamma ray blast would sterilize the planet: the effect would be equal to a hydrogen bomb explosion - simultaneously everywhere in the world (and I do mean everywhere). It would just be a bright flash - and then we'd burn to death within seconds. Those on the protected side of the globe would probably survive a bit longer.

    It wouldn't even have to be a direct hit - a miss of 600 light years would still be enough to fry us (again, IIRC). Even if the blast would go past this "safe zone", the ensuing radiation would knock out all of our satellites on the exposed part of the world. And lots of people would go blind.

    I'll try to find links to back these things up.
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    The ray would have to be pretty close to hitting us (or be a direct hit), and the supernova would have to be relatively close (within 200 light years or so) to do damage. If the ray missed us by 600 light years, we would be fine. For it to do damage, it must be a direct hit or real close. I read somewhere that the rays have the diameter of an average star. Gamma rays only get shot out at the poles of the star, which definately is a good thing.

    Although it is possible, it is pretty unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinebuster
    If I Recall Correctly, a direct hit from a gamma ray blast would sterilize the planet: the effect would be equal to a hydrogen bomb explosion - simultaneously everywhere in the world (and I do mean everywhere). It would just be a bright flash - and then we'd burn to death within seconds. Those on the protected side of the globe would probably survive a bit longer.

    It wouldn't even have to be a direct hit - a miss of 600 light years would still be enough to fry us (again, IIRC). Even if the blast would go past this "safe zone", the ensuing radiation would knock out all of our satellites on the exposed part of the world. And lots of people would go blind.

    I'll try to find links to back these things up.
    I vaguely remember reading something along these lines but don't remember where. Damn memory. :(

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