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    Lucky survivor Seasoned Member murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God murph pwns God
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    I am the man with the sword for a tongue that totally understands the Bible and has a plan that saves everyone and everything permanently. There are no losers in the system the Bible and I recommend but the level in which you win will be determined by the service to humanity and the simple system that you perform. I am a warrior of of words and ways like you have never heard of before and I take on the US government and judicial system in court on a regular basis. I love people but I very much dislike what they do.

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    Jake99, how do you interpret the book of Jonah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake99 View Post
    ..... , a plan that saves everyone and everything permanently. There are no losers in the system the Bible , ....
    God never uncreates anything, the most that happens is the place eternity is spent in is a place where they are aware of what is going on. The methods used in the 5th trump will be there in the lake also. As far as 'children' they would be a static number for eternity, however the first 4 generations of children they had with Eve's daughters could be in the lake also. Goliath and those races he came from were made extinct. The ones that intermingled with those children past the 4th generation will be viewed as being the ones the sea releases at the Great White Throne event.

    That brings up the issue of Holy Angels and the question of whether or not their numbers ever increase. At present and in the future they are said to be not given in marriage so they would remain childless. Not a bad thing if there is a chance your child or their child could end up in the lake. That ban on marriage could be lifted for them once they are in the 'new heaven'. Most likely that would begin in the same location as the GWT, the entrance to the place God was when these current heavens and His earth were made back in the beginning of it all. The children (child actually) would become the equivalent of of God and the Holy Spirit. Together they would create one child and then a universe to be his inheritance and part of that universe would be someone who would become His wife, in our case that would be a marriage between Jesus and the Beloved Disciple. That is how angels can be self sustaining as a 'growing population', each set of parents will also become a grand-parent to one grand-child.

    Or angels are not given in marriage and the new heaven for them will have fewer individuals in it while mankind grows greater in number for all of eternity. If God is the God of life then if the rules can be changed so much that we will remain alive after knowing about good and evil then taking the no marriage law for angels away is also certainly possible. If a human couple can have 100 children then an Angelic couple having one child (and room for them to live in, a new universe from our POV)

    For mankind getting everybody into the new earth is the basic rule for salvation from God's perspective For a world to start out without sorrow all the children of Adam and Eve would have to be there. If being a whole people is determined for them starting at the moment resurrection becomes available, the last ones to be resurrected belong to the Gentiles, only after the last of mankind has been judged are the Gentiles considered to be whole (and without sorrow). The lake is not the place that human sinners go, hell is the closest they can experience in the first death. everybody sent there will agree that it not the direction one would prefer to go.
    Joh:11:24:
    Martha saith unto him,
    I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

    Isa:54:1:
    Sing,
    O barren,
    thou that didst not bear;
    break forth into singing,
    and cry aloud,
    thou that didst not travail with child: f
    or more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,
    saith the LORD.

    Isa:54:3:
    For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left;
    and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles,
    and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.

    The Bride is not said to be the wife until the day of return, once that day arrives there will be more people dead than there will be living. It stays that way for the 1,000 year reign and after that at the GWT the larger number of people who have ever lived will be resurrected, just in time to enter New Jerusalem (1500 mile cube) for it's trip to the new earth, they will experience the same things the ones that were alive on earth did during the 1,000 year reign. (without the rebellion at the end)

    Would God remember the sparrows if there were no plans for that same sparrow to fly and sing again? It boils down to there are no sins a person can commit that will make them miss out on being in the new earth. The first death (and the sins committed during that time. 1st birth) are paid in full for everybody by the time the GWT happens. The worst are the ones that are sent to hell, if it can be shown that they are not sent to the lake then it is a given that anybody doings lesser crimes will be forgiven those. That means the only issue is space for everybody, the old heaven could become the new earth, problem solved for eternity for an immortal group of people.

    M't:10:29:
    Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing?
    and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

    M't:10:31:
    Fear ye not therefore,
    ye are of more value than many sparrows.

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    All God's people will be saved because we're nothing but information in the energy of God. He can't change that because it all interacts with each other for eternity. The scriptures you believe has something to do with a place called hell was added by the religious Jews and Romans who had the beast. God planned this beast to change the scriptures and kill most of his prophets, messiah and saints. The beast is religious pride that exalts men above other men and even God. This beast will have me killed soon, then the end of this age will come to pass, exactly as the prophecies show. This will end the 1,000 year reign of Christ because there won't be any energy flowing to another servant of God before the end. The crust of this earth will be melted by hot molten lava to reshape it back to the original earth that God started with. There won't be any mountains, oceans or polar caps in the next age because God needed the room to transmit the lives of all his created people into their new bodies. Never again will man understand what death is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Word View Post
    The beast is religious pride that exalts men above other men and even God. This beast will have me killed soon, then the end of this age will come to pass, exactly as the prophecies show.
    The beast is a roller coaster at an amusement park north of Cincinnati.

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    I just got done telling you what the beast was but lies are your nature.
    I am the way, the truth and the light of life. There is no other God besides me.


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    OMG what a combination....Jake, The Word and fook me Waymarker......if ever there was a beast with three heads here it is......God help us all.....
    "Two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the Universe." -Albert Einstein [1879-1955]

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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    Jake99, how do you interpret the book of Jonah?
    Hey murph, I too am a Murphy

    I interpret the Bible by its common sense directives and sound advice and I do not study opinions of those who never understood the cornerstones. The Bible recommends things like learn war no more, the Golden rule, waste not want not, seek and you shall find, no moneychangers, sellers, soldiers or false prophets in the temple of God. It is real simple and yet mankind rejects every aspect of advice it gives thus mankind has always been 180 degrees off course and the results prove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake99 View Post
    It is real simple and yet mankind rejects every aspect of advice it gives thus mankind has always been 180 degrees off course and the results prove that.
    The interpretation of scripture is an art form, like painting or music, it takes practice.

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    A message from Bob...Lord of the Universe...



    Next time, think more, speak less.

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    it's funny you should mention that

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    There is only one way to interpret the Bible: Bullshit.

    That is not to say that it does not carry some good messages,
    but all it does is complicate these very simple messages that
    are already built into the moral centre of a Human Being.
    America must burn.

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    An appreciation for flavor does nothing but complicate the taste buds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    The interpretation of scripture is an art form, like painting or music, it takes practice.
    interpretation = LYING. you put your "meaning" into it, ie poetic license, and you have immediately turned the whole book into a pretty pattern of lies.
    "your god is not mine (john 8:37-40)"
    knowledge is wasted on the ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    The interpretation of scripture is an art form, like painting or music, it takes practice.
    Thats why I have always practiced what the Bible preaches and that has produced millions of masterpieces painted, produced and played by my hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Random View Post
    There is only one way to interpret the Bible: Bullshit.

    That is not to say that it does not carry some good messages,
    but all it does is complicate these very simple messages that
    are already built into the moral centre of a Human Being.
    The Bible is the message that mankind refuses to understand and follow the basic principals of which is the reason for all of mankinds problems. I agree with you that it is based upon the moral center of human beings and basic common sense which mankind refuses to adopt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    it's funny you should mention that
    So...your answer is yes. The first step on the path to wisdom.
    "Jake 99 is Lord!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    So...your answer is yes. The first step on the path to wisdom.
    There are many steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
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    Next time, think more, speak less.

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