if big bang is an act of... madness?

[dedanoe]

how do you i.d.n.t.5 the actor?

[Cartesiantheater]

Science doesn't speculate about the mental state of the "actor," or even if there WAS an actor or not. That is at best a metaphysical question, and belongs in the PHILOSOPHY section, at worst it belongs in the RELIGION section.

[Reef Badlaw]

The planning of the Bang, and its aftermath, were designed to prevent madness.

[dedanoe]

but still madness is inevitable...

[HindSight]

Madness is inev? How? Prove it.

There is a seed. A big bang happens: BOMB! the seed explodes and matter begins to split and grow and grow grow and grow ... and nine months later, a human baby is born. The seed ... was that of a human. The baby ... grows up to perfectly healthy and intelligent and has a balanced mind.

The Big Bang of the Universe need not be considered to be any different that the big bang of a human seed. In order for 'madness' to set in, there must be a cause for the effect, otherwise there will be no reaction.

What would be the cause of madness?

[dedanoe]

the basis of madness is the fact that the universe as well as the humans are always demanding more power to sustain their existence and that ever growing necessity go hand in hand with lack of respective satisfaction because it seems that after all the resources in nature are limited = there is no and cannot be perpetuum mobile machinery. the outcome of it is unavoidable must for people to do crime at first and at second when that crime is to be suspended to deny responsibility due to mental disorder (some say "angels told me to do it"). how would you classify the act when a young muslim with all the life ahead of him decides to go for the TNT belt, high jacks a bus, bring it near vast population full of targets and blow it sky high: okay it is not act of madness but it is act of terrorism... still madness only in FBI terms.

EDIT: you all know newton's "for every action there is equal and opposite reaction". i wanna add that action_force is true subset of action_any and so there is difference between action = - reaction and action_force = - reaction_force cause action in lever is force times distance leave it alone for now... my point is, this act of terrorism surely is not without a cause i.e. there are certain reasons why the target was a pick and not knowing that cause makes the observer conclude that act irrational, mindless, mad. they just don't know which movie the actor was tripping in so they are unable to develop understanding of it.

EDIT AGAIN: the intelligence agencies usually know the reasons full well they only cover and twist them up so they can justify their budgets for prolonging the existence of the very agencies from the public founding. they have A nasty habit of surviving says agent 007...

when one manages to accomplish something that certainly is according to some law cause if it is against it wouldn't have happened: try jumping from a high tower in hope you'll violate newton's gravity flaw and remain alive in midair? yes you can you just need higher tangential velocity normal to the radial gravity...

[HindSight]

Just to play devils advocate, Mate, man does not need laws, cities, governments, machines, money, communities, social power/overlording, on and on. Nothing manmade is an actual need of Man, all are only wants. Man's only needs are the same as all animals: food and shelter, that's it.

I agree that Man's wants [his desire to meet his wants in the laziest way possible via manmade tools] are destroying Man himself and his environment. The cool part about this is: nature has a way of correcting man, by starving him out to make him stop his shit. Man thinks he has a way to beat nature, by recreating her and being 'green' conscious and coming up with technologies to leave the earth he is destroying. Man thinks if he protects his little patch, fences in his own food and living space, screw his nabor, the nabor is on his own to survive.

Thus man came to believe he owns land, built shelters, which became villages, towns, then cities, governments, bigger badder weapons to protect his turf from the nabor, on and on. Yes, he ran out of land to protect and now considers himself in a perpetual state of war to protect what he has. But this process of surviving (fence, protect, hoard, fence, protect, hoard) is now spilling into space. Within 800 years, the earth will be the least of Man's fence, protect, hoard. In case you haven't heard, Man is about to leave the earth, on way or another. Man's journey as been caveman to tribe man to village to town to city to government to state to nation to world. His journey continues to solar (solar system) to galaxy to universe. He's not done yet; there are still at least three stages of Man to go.

As a human baby is rejected and ejected by its mother's body, so also Man will be rejected and ejected by the earth. The Mums always win. What you consider 'madness', others view as the natual and logical progression of man. Only the violence of it is undesirable. This I completely agree with. No one ever said birth pains were a good thing.

[dedanoe]

ain't it a classical Hollywood philosophy: to have the hero win in the end you need to give advantage to the bad guys in the beginning == to have A prosperous policeman in front of the crime curtain you need to manufacture a lot more crime behind the curtain == and the industry is booming and everyone lives happily ever after except the sacrificed terrorist (well they too live happily ever after only in the afterlife).

[dedanoe]

imagine you stand tall and you hold your right hand towards right (plus one) and your left hand towards ahead of you (zero). you keep that angle among the hands in the plane perpendicular to the head-toes axis and spin clockwise: as your right hand is reaching for infinity (from cave to village, to city, to country, to solar system, to galaxy progression) your left hand is reaching for one; as your right hand is reaching for minus one your left hand is reaching for infinity; right for zero left for minus one and after a complete cycle your right hand is again reaching for plus one and your left hand is again reaching for zero. there is no progression really, it is only illusion on the account of considering only what the right hand is doing (getting) with neglecting that done by the left hand (the price paid).

mom is winning? peace is only the period between two wars when you war against the boredom of insufficient suffering! peace is the least profitable merchandise.

[dedanoe]

the progress which God dearly hopes on and is expecting soon is to have Adam and Eeva return home to EDEN with the lesson learned "When God says do not eat the forbidden fruit you will obey".

[Freddy]

the progress which God dearly hopes on and is expecting soon is to have Adam and Eeva return home to EDEN with the lesson learned "When God says do not eat the forbidden fruit you will obey".

Wow! You go from the Big Bang to the second Garden of Eden.

[dedanoe]

to give birth to A baby is deadly sentence for the parents (it's A sin): the sperm invasion over the egg cell is same as apocalyptic meteor storm heading towards man populated earth. if adam and eeva hold from sexual multiplication they are granted with eternity cause there will be nothing to kill them. i see a psychic connection here: American "son" is Macedonian "sin" and American "sin" is Macedonian "grev".

[JLEE]

Whaaaat? So, there should have been no human race, in your ultimate wisdom?

[dedanoe]

i didn't say that... all i say is there should be Eden Adam vs Edna Eeva, One God vs His Only Goddess, One Devil vs His Only Satan. Macedonian "EDEN" is American "One". i say NO to billions of humans and YES to only one couple: Dedanoe and Natasha.

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Hitler was right after all "We are to build A world for only two, for you and me Lili Marlene, We are to kill all the Jews cause they preach and disobey their own preaching by multiplying like playboy rabbits, it is the Jews who promote PROFIT the other form of deadly sin"

[JLEE]

Okee Dokee. Time for this little girl to go to bed cause I'm not gettin' this at all. Sorry.

[dedanoe]

in that Eden of ours everything will be Satan thought, God made, Devil served and Goddess cleaned. our only obligation is to enjoy our selves

[perfectly_flawed]

to give birth to A baby is deadly sentence for the parents (it's A sin): the sperm invasion over the egg cell is same as apocalyptic meteor storm heading towards man populated earth. if adam and eeva hold from sexual multiplication they are granted with eternity cause there will be nothing to kill them. i see a psychic connection here: American "son" is Macedonian "sin" and American "sin" is Macedonian "grev".

so i realize that i have a tiny tiny brain but let me see if i follow you here... if adam and eve resist their human nature (because sexuailty is in our human nature) then they can live forever. "There will be nothing to kill them" are you refering to the fact that no "humans" will be able to kill them or that they will be truly eternal?

[dedanoe]

Dobri may give up his eternity so his son Matea may be eternal...
Matea may give up his eternity so his son Argir may be eternal...
Argir may give up his eternity so his son Pando may be eternal...
Pando may give up his eternity so his son Vasil may be eternal... and
Vasil may give up his eternity so his son Dobri may be eternal again...



THE ONLY THING THAT MAY KILL YOU IS GIVING LIFE -- GIVE LIFE AND YOU LOSE LIFE

[perfectly_flawed]

yeah well im trying to have an open mind here.... but to me you are saying if you sacrifice and give life you die.... when usually sacrifice is a good thing... someone gave birth to you and gave you your life so then your parents should die??!! Yeah this is way over my head

[dedanoe]

my father is dead, the sch therapy knocked him out of this world and as an introduction to my sch history i stubbed my mother with a kitchen knife (she survived... it was my last option when i faced the toughest social pressure). be ware of your sons and daughters for they run out of mercy very often.

[perfectly_flawed]

Yeah no offense but around here we are taught respect at a very very early age. And it includes the upmost respect for your parents and grandparents no matter how much you hate them.... they are still the reason you have life and have the chance to love and/or hate them.... so as much as i hate to say this.... i just can't grasp your POV

[Freddy]

my father is dead, the sch therapy knocked him out of this world and as an introduction to my sch history i stubbed my mother with a kitchen knife (she survived... it was my last option when i faced the toughest social pressure). be ware of your sons and daughters for they run out of mercy very often.

You stabbed your Mother! Did she forgive you?

[dedanoe]

yes she did forgive me. as a mater of fact she was the only to forgive me and continue living along with me. the rest of the society (world too) abandoned me and is determinate to remotely hunt me down to my last breath with this sch toxic therapy. in their eyes i am eternally dangerous and must kept thereof securely isolated. mental institutions are not to be considerate as healers on patients requests they are more likely a court extension obligated to punish the criminals that have done crime for which they don't take responsibility. mental institutions are a measure of social security they care for the well being of the society not for the convict. the convict is expendable he is to be treated as garbage for the rest of his life.

[dedanoe]

i consider the very act of stubbing my own mother as my last stand against the terror done to me by the society. standing out of the society is very refreshing, relaxing, stress-less, and comfortable. it is worth giving away all the benefits that come in pack with being part of it for only out of the society i was able to see the universal beauty. inside you're blind and deliberately blinded so the majority can turn you into a better servant, out of the society you become the master. out of the society i can be truly honest to my inner drives and thereof favored by the higher forces (they now work for me).

[JLEE]

Find another forum to post this in! And in it could you please explain the DETAILS of why you did what you did? Extenuating circumstances perhaps? I hope so. Were you forced to stab your mother?