Speak Free With Freedom Of Speech

[Tormentations]

Bare with me. For this will turn out to be a most excellent truth-kicking topic ever in the history of AO.

Speak Free With Freedom Of Speech. Do you do it? Is that all you do? Or, is freedom of speech a ploy to keep action off to the side line? What I think should go into a real constitution, not the current one, is Freedom Of Action. The right to Free Action. What say you all to this? Do any of you have a problem with freedom of action ever becoming a very real constitutional right? Why?

With Freedom Of Action you should be enabled and equiped to accomplish whatever you put your mind to in America, even without money.

Freedom of Speech doesn't come with any equiping to make sure it is accomplished. Nope, you need money to equip yourself with something so that you may exercize free speech. Am I lying? Heck no! The problem with this country is that you need money to exercize rights. Again, am I lying? Am I ever lying?

Rights are held in bondage by way of that you need money to basically exercize them. Hey, why do I need money to exercize my right to bare arms? We know it takes money to buy the firearm of choice, but it shouldn't cost anything if the forefathers intended us our right fortified. I hereby am here to tell you that rights are a gimmick. Go look into the word gimmick. No, really!

gimmick-
1.an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.
2.a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal: An offer that good must have a gimmick in it somewhere.

Does that sound about correct? Tell me, do you see? Are you awake to see that rights are gimmicks so as long as it takes money to exercize them?

Take any message board discussion forum or AO for example... it takes money to launch a message board discussion forum that goes into a liked direction of free speech that you say flies. Face it, rights are a pathetic gimmick. It's time we get some real rights... Rights that are made fortified against being gimmicks... Rights that are certain to when a constitution reads you have the right to bare arms, you are given whatever means it takes to get a FREE firearm in your possession or under your ownership. We need genuine rights, not jokes for rights.

We need a: "No right a gimmick anymore" type of law. So, what say you the people? This country is in the least bit half-butted with the fact that it (via the courts) provide you with a lawyer free of charge if you can't afford a lawyer. So if they are going to do that half-butted, still gimmick B.S., then where is my appointed gun free of charge??? Hey, I may believe I need a gun for self-defense. But most importantly, I may want to exercize my right to bare arms. It shouldnt take money inorder to exercize my right to get to bare arms. Anyone see what I'm saying? The country called the United States of America is not fa-fa-fa foolin' me. I like that song by Def Leppard. About to play it in a moment to myself.

So America, WAKE THE HECK UP! We really honest to God need that NO RIGHT A GIMMICK ANYMORE law put in stone. Alternative America is already awoken.

And hey, federal government and Michigan state government, I want me a court appointed firearm. Work on it!

You the people should demand no-gimmick rights.

[Anarch]

Well their is a few things I see wrong with your premise.

Rights are supposed to be more than a gimmick. They are supposed to be something that can not be infringed. Take our freedom of religion. You can covert a person by the sword but what they keep in their heart is still theirs to believe as they will...now the practice of it maybe something else but thats why it is a protected right whether your a snake handler, Roman catholic, Pagan, or Muslim your right to worship shall not be infringed unless said right involves the infringement of others rights.

Freespeech...does it cost money? No. You can go anywhere public and speak your mind. Now sign boards and ink may cost money but so do cloths and food. Speaking is free but if you want to do crap in life you gotta work and you can trade your work for crap or do the middle man thing like 99.9% of us do and work for money to trade for crap. Do message boards cost money? Yes. Can you build one for free? Yes. It's called open source and if you invest the energy to learn about it you can do all sorts of things computer related things for free. You just have to learn. And you can pay for that learning or do it for free because many programmers do not mind sharing knowledge for free.

As for your right to bare arms... You have the right to buy or make your own fire arm. Many folks stick with conventional arms. Some people take it to the next level and play with "coil guns" Some "coil guns" suck. Some "coil guns" can fire projectiles for miles. .....Now our right to bare arms is heavily infringed upon by laws that regulate ownership of arms. Basically all laws regarding weapons are void by the second amendment but our unwillingness to assert our rights has led to the infringement. I mean if you want to own a tank I have no problem with that. Tanks cost millions to own and operate and if you can afford one your probably rich enough to put yourself in a position where tank ownership is not necessary. .... XE owns its own Navy and Airforce and they are allowed to as a privet military organization but you the average citizen for some foul reason are not allowed to own the same...

Meh... If you don't exercise your rights and insist upon them when they are infringed then you lose them. "coil guns" are still unregulated though. You should look them up. They can pack quite a punch.

As for freedom of action... I think thats called liberty. You have had it since you were born. You can do anything. Their are consequences now mind you, all actions have a consequence of some kind. But your liberty is yours till the day you die.

[Tormentations]

Hmm. I see what you're saying. Can't argue with much of what you're saying.

Indeed, our right to bare arms is infringed upon. Would you believe I had made myself a firearm back at this other house I used to reside at, but my parents, going through my room, found it and turned it into the police? My parents are not cool people to me at least.

You think liberty is freedom of action, but I do believe liberty to be just freedom of choice. Of course it takes action to make a choice. I know. And action and choice have something in common like in the choice to act department. But not all choices are real actions in my opinion. When I think of "choice," I for some reason think of a form with all these boxes printed on it that one may choose to check off how the form instructs you to. But I think of "Freedom Of Action" as free from instructions in how to go about an own, utter choice more freely. To me, Freedom Of Action is much more freer than Freedom Of Choice could ever be. Again, a form instructs which means your choice has limit to it in the bounds based on the instructions given. One mustn't be fooled by all the choices presented before them since the bounds of instructions limit choice somewhat.

"Action" is just a much more stronger word that is 10 times better than the word "choice." Freedom Of Action would constitute an uttermost type of freedom than that of Freedom Of Choice. Free from the ploy of instruction is the kind of Freedom Of Action more down my alley.

[Anarch]

Hmmm sounds like you should learn about NLP so you can better understand how often subversive subliminal messages are used, in advertising, programs, magazines and so on and so forth...

Something Heinlein said is true to me. The only real freedom any one of us really have is to make up our own minds about things.

We might lack hands and feet but we can still choose to make up our own minds about how we feel about the weather...I hope you can understand my point there.

When it comes to liberty I speak from the perspective of someone who's freedom has been infringed. A person who has done times crimes for I was guilty of AND crimes I did not commit. While I was a guest of the state my movement was restricted, My food pre selected...other choices denied to me...but I still had the "liberty" to trade goods from my commissary for pot. And I got to smoke a joint in jail as I served time for smoking pot.

My personal fuck you to the system as it were.

Liberty though, is by far ,the best drug of all.