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Nov 1st, 2010 1:43 PM #76
Impossible mate. We might all be be inside some giant holodeck for all we know, or a collective dream/illusion.
Tell us Morpheus-
"The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.
Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?"
What do you say Jesus?-
"You hardly believe me when I tell you earthly things,so how would you believe me if I told you heavenly things?...you are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world" John 3:12,John 8:23
"You can be in my dream if i can be in your dream" -Bob Dylan
"We are such stuff as dreams are made on" -The Tempest
"Strawberry Fields...nothing is real" - The Beatles
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one'' -Einstein
"What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes" (James 4:14)
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Nov 1st, 2010 1:55 PM #77Cart-mod 2.0 Global Moderator
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And yet:
Within the scope of your proposed delusion, there are still certain PATTERNS and RULES which can be deciphered.
Originally Posted by Morpheus
Imagine if Jesus tried to tell them about relativity. I wonder how that would go... and yet, there are no problems with it now, for those who are willing to learn.
Bad context. He was just stating that the way we perceive the universe is faulty.
So what? A mist can make up a bunch of bullshit or it can substantiate its claims. (an anthropomorphic mist, that is...)"I was put on trial twice near Y2K for acting like Jesus and claiming to be the Messiah. Its not everyday that a man parks a Chariot of Fire in front of a tomb and stands against the US government with a bow and razor tipped arrows over his shoulder. I wore a suit of armor and was protected by an invisible bubble and my sharp tongue was more than the judicial system could handle."Jake
"The toilet is more than a throne. It is a sacred chamber."-Anton LaVey, High Priest of Satanism
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Nov 1st, 2010 2:30 PM #78Survivalist!
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You don't have to worry about being religious. You were made to be skeptical of it. I was made to be a sinless saint and preach the gospel but that came after I was made to be an alcoholic and a proud father who worked hard.
No one ever knows for sure what they might be in the future. But I know one thing. Everyone will be in the same place eventually.
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Nov 9th, 2010 9:14 PM #79
Praise the Word is gone!
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" G. Santayana
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Nov 14th, 2010 1:02 PM #80
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Aug 5th, 2011 8:08 PM #81Lucky survivor Seasoned Member
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Most of the bible is just one big collection of metaphors. Most Christians fail to see this, and as a result interpret the bible incorrectly. This results in very, very sad situations. Interpreting the bible incorrectly leads to disaster.
In the first part of genesis (creation of the world, animals and man) days might be interpreted as ages (gosh, this fits with evolution).
Adam and Eve might just be the first iteration of humans. They might very well have lived for just 20 years and then died. Person A lived X years, might very well mean Human Species A lasted X generations.
Also the very interesting "I am the way" (quote from Jesus Christ) is commonly misinterpreted as meaning "believe in me and only then you will go to heaven" instead of what it actually means: "behave like me and life will be good." You know, tolerant, forgiving, loving, sharing, wise and helping (did I miss anything?).
Be very careful when reading the bible; it's a minefield. If it is your central reference point of everything, you will fail miserably at understanding what is inside it... and worse, what is around you.
The bible is not god's word, love is; and through love (yes, your emotion love) god will tell you whether you are doing right or wrong. The same goes for everybody else.
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Aug 5th, 2011 8:30 PM #82Survivalist!
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Aug 5th, 2011 8:55 PM #83
Modern day true Christians know a lot of the Bible is metaphor, and on the other hand they know a lot is plain speaking which needs no high-fallutin 'interpretation' to understand, such as this-
"Love God, love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor"-Jesus of Nazareth (Matt 25: 37-40)
Imagine contacting a remote jungle tribe who'd never seen a white man before, you stay with them and learn their language, then when they ask you to teach them stuff, you say- "You're on a huge ball of mud spinning through space".
Natch, they wouldn't believe you and would probably think you're touched in the head and they'd eat you.
Likewise Jesus said some pretty weird things which peoples minds couldn't take in, so he ended up being killed too..
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Aug 6th, 2011 11:01 AM #84Survivalist!
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A real life example of that happened, the People who were the first to meet Cortez did just that, he killed many, put the rest in chains and made them do the heavy work in cleaning out the silver mines and then he killed them. If facts make any difference.
Jesus was destined to go to the grave as part of the sequence that had to be followed that was God's plan for salvation for mankind. The weird teaching method was also in prophecy, odd that it was misunderstood as today we use parables because they are easier to understand than the 'hard facts'.
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I am the way, the truth and the light of life. There is no other God besides me.
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Aug 6th, 2011 4:55 PM #86Survivalist!
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