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Jul 8th, 2004 8:16 AM #26Originally Posted by substand
Jul 8th, 2004 8:22 AM #27Originally Posted by substand
Jul 8th, 2004 1:08 PM #28Originally Posted by substand
Actually, "all men have sinned..." not "all men are sinners"
Very different perspectives.
Jul 8th, 2004 2:35 PM #29
More Al Qaeda Threats
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Al Qaeda plans a large-scale attack on the United States "in an effort to disrupt the democratic process" before November's elections, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said Thursday (July 8,2004).
It certainly won't hurt Bush's chances for a second term if Al Qaeda succeeds in another large scale attack on America. Hmmm
Jul 12th, 2004 6:18 PM #30
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>No one who had such intelligence, or who had discovered it,
>or who was familiar with it on
> a daily basis thought it was enough to put thier word of thier life or thier
>career or anything on the line for.
Yes. There were.
Robert Wright, Kenneth Williams
and Sibel Edmonds even lost her job over it.
>and who among us thought the first crash was anything more than an accident?
>I sure didn't.
i agree. even Bush thought the first crash was just bad piloting. He saw it, but never said he saw the first crash again. and the links that i had, with what he has said about them, are no longer up. i see the cleanup crew is at work...ah well. such is life. you can't prove it, if there's no evidence...
>Since it was never shown here because it was debunked in the UK,
>what the hell difference does it make?
that it was even dared to be released as 'actual footage' from the day. the audacity. attempting to portray a fast-reacting POTUS on top of the issues, etc.
>and your entire argument assumes that every individual will be completely
>rational during a traumatic event
i would agree if GW was witness to the crash or was involved in it. but he wasn't. seeing a bad video of it wouldn't phase me either [ie, the 1st crash]. i heard about it and wasn't traumatized. I was shocked/disbelieving/curious, but traumatized into non-chalant befuddled aloofness, i would not be.
>or are we hated for having a rightist president who did go to the UN
>and used the same reasons as clinton used,
Bush sent troops. Clinton sent missiles. I'm upset because we are making more terrorists with our occupation than Clinton did when he killed off some alleged terrorist cells.
Jul 13th, 2004 5:15 AM #31
dn- yes i was being sarcastic.
Originally Posted by emerald_dragon
and about the first part... i really tried... i didn't quite beleive the site (linked, if you take out the "]") so I did some research... Googling for "Catherine Austin Fitts" comes up with astology and conspiracy stuff... I went a few pages deep and still didn't find a "credible" news source on her.... in any case, it matters not... there were few people who were willing to do what she did (assuming what she did is as you say). Considering the who US intel community beleived it (even with group think), plus the rest of the world's intel agencies, perhaps i should have not said "no one" put anything on the line to make a point, but "no one" did in comparison to the rest of the world.I'm sick of intelligent debate. Bring on the mad Libs.
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Jul 13th, 2004 10:15 AM #32Originally Posted by substand
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