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Jul 10th, 2010 9:34 PM #1
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Beast vs Devil postition
What do you think?
After expansion ends, then comes pressure that causes heat intensity into infinity. Time expands, but time ends when it no longer expands once it hits into the end of a short space. Space is short.
The beast continues a short space while the devil has but a short time, meaning the beast leaves this short space while the devil remains but goes into imeance pressurization.
CONCLUSION IS THAT THE CURRENT TIME (an expanding astral plan which is our devil) POSTITION IS STILL IN HEAVEN, BUT HEAVEN TURNS INTO HELL BECAUSE OF THE EXPANDING TIME (our devil) IN A SHORT SPACE.
When Jesus descended from heaven he was in the bottomless pit, judging the SUN TO BE of Satan who is called the morning star for that reason to be. This is why come by pressure there shall be gnashing of teeth as for an expression concerning a pressureous hell that heats on. Jesus descended to judge how long before Satan, being time, goes into hell from heaven. So in a future to be against Satan, the weeping or wailing shall be because of the heat, while the gnashing of teeth shall be because of the pressure.
What's up such as paradise and etc. of other great places, is not any sort of a short space but expanding places which expand into the bottomless pit. But where you are right now is not an expanding place, though the time being (Satan) is expanding but not for too much longer once expanding turns rather into pressure instead. The top to the bottomless pit is of course any creation. Certain creations don't expand into the bottomless pit those certain creations are in, others creations do expand into the bottomless pit.
Jul 11th, 2010 7:12 AM #2
Here is what I think ... you are adding much speculation that is not congruent with scripture
2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works
4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
This is satan coming to the earth during the tribulation period of 2550 days:
12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
This is the beast Abaddon-Apollyon [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 17:8] who will do satan's bidding on the earth during the coming tribulation period of 2550 days:
13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon [satan, devil] gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
13:4 And they worshipped the dragon [satan, devil] which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
This is satan just after the tribulation period of 2550 days:
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
This is satan after the Lord's coming millennial kingdom on the earth which will last for 1000 years:
20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:10 And the devil [satan] that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Jul 11th, 2010 8:12 AM #3
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Lake of fire is an expression for hell. Meaning it is no literal lake of fire. Follow suit with the rest... Weeping and wailing is an expression for there being heat felt. Gnashing of teeth is an expression implying there shall be pressure. It shall be no more literal teeth when hell hits against the being which will be in hell. Think! It's up to the reader to conclude that the bible intentionally doesn't say straightly that this place shall turn into hell. I mean, you can't have that in the bible direct since all sorts of people would come to read. Wisdom says so that you don't make people think they are all in danger because of being for now in this place called the Universe which shall turn into a hell. Satan was put here as a seed that grows. Satan shall grow into heat causing pressure. That shall be his hell. By then, certain of us shall be outside of this place, in our lot which is up.
You have to think hard on why the "continue a short space" is mentioned of the beast. And why Satan has but a short time. The beast is God, not Satan. Satan is the devil, not God. God is a body, meaning it consists of more than one person.
Revelation is not to be taken 'as is,' no, it must be revealed by the reader that hath understanding. Satan has so far been loosed out of his prison, but not released from it. The key word is loosed. That basically means given leeway for say a season of some kind different than seasons earth go through. It's like someone on parole... They are still inside of a boundry. A parolee is LOOSED out of prison, meaning not actually free nor released from the prison's grasp. Satan goes into what prison is intended to be, a hell. Right now Satan, as a parolee, is given a limited earth and a limited space before he has to go into what prison is intended to be (a real life hell). Jesus is here now on earth also judging the evil Satan is. Satan is the world, Jesus is not of the world. This means that many people are Satan's physical aspects, although Satan's correct form is the astral plan which is a time. Time expands since it has to do with a measurement reaching (growing) into a distance of a space (space itself implies limited distance by default, or else why call it space?).
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Jul 11th, 2010 9:06 AM #4
Very strange ideas
.... not biblical and even contrdictory
What is your source?
Jul 23rd, 2010 10:45 AM #5
Um , to say this is odd would be a gross understatement. I agree with the above poster that this "belief" of yours is contradicting itself.
And it seems like you just took terms that are found in the Bible and then just made up your own story with those words.
Does your right hand man Tupac agree with you on this? LOL
Jul 23rd, 2010 4:31 PM #6
Tormentations?? I know a spirit when I hear you.
Uncle Sam is a two bit coward - always taking money from his brother's kids and telling them he wants them to join his Army.
Jul 23rd, 2010 6:27 PM #7
Odd maybe? It is just plain Christian nonsense! Whoa is me for mocking Yahweh."Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" G. Santayana
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