40 Reasons To Vote For George Bush Or Against John Kerry

[Conservative Front]

1) "John Kerry. In his 20 years in the Senate, he's been a standard-issue Massachusetts liberal, with a lifetime rating from Americans for Democratic Action of 93 on their 0-100 scale. By contrast, the other Senator from the Bay State, Teddy Kennedy, has a lifetime rating of 88. "That makes Kennedy the conservative of the two," chortled Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie as he visited New Hampshire last week on an anti-Democratic strafing run." -- James Pinkerton, 1/26/04

2) "Speaking on a live local broadcast at a campaign stop in Toledo, Ohio in front of 300 people, Kerry blasted Bush for being an illegitimately elected president in 2000 when he was "selected" by the U.S. Supreme Court. When an elderly Democratic voter in the audience accused Vice President Dick Cheney of murdering women and children in Iraq for the sake of oil profits, Kerry responded by saying, "I know exactly where you're coming from." Kerry added, "I know where that anger comes from, I know where the frustration comes from." -- John Kerry, May 2004

3) John Kerry's official blog links to the CENSORED, a left-wing website with very popular forums that is often quoted from by conservative bloggers and radio hosts because it's such a cesspool of lunacy. If you're looking for people who think Americans are just as bad as Al-Qaeda, the US Gov't had Nick Berg killed, or just a little America trashing, there's no better place on the internet to go than the CENSORED. In fact, just to give you a better idea of what it's like, here's the #1 quote from The 10 Worst Quotes From The CENSORED For 2003...

"I realize that not every GI Joe was 100peeercent behind Prseeedent Booosh going into this war; but I do know that that is what an overwhelming number of them and their famlies screamed in the face of protesters who were trying to protect these kids. Well, there is more than one way to be "dead" for your country. They are not only not accompishing squat in Iraq, they are doing crap nothing for the safety, defense of the US of A over there directly. But "indirectly" they are doing a lot.

The only way to get rid of this slime bag WASP-Mafia, oil barron ridden cartel of a government, this assault on Americans and anything one could laughingly call "a democracy", relies heavily on what a sh*t hole Iraq turns into. They need to die so that we can be free. Soldiers usually did that directly--i.e., fight those invading and harming a country. This time they need to die in defense of a lie from a lying adminstration to show these ignorant, dumb Americans that Bush is incompetent. They need to die so that Americans get rid of this deadly scum. It is obscene, Barbie Bush, how other sons (of much nobler blood) have to die to save us from your Rosemary's Baby spawn and his ungodly cohorts." -- Starpass

If John Kerry thinks it's appropriate to link a website where those sort of views are expressed, is he fit to be President?

4) Do you want to allow the United Nations to control where American troops are sent? John Kerry said he did...

"I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations." -- John Kerry, 1970

5) Thanks to George Bush, we've backed away from the economy crushing Kyoto Protocol, the ABM Treaty which would have prevented us from building a missile defense, and the International Criminal Court which could have put our military & government officials under threat of frivolous prosecution.

6) George Bush is a strong supporter of a Federal Marriage Amendment which is the only way to stop liberal judges from imposing gay marriage on the states against the wishes of the voters and State Legislatures.

7) If you believe it's important to increase funding for education, "President Bush's overall Fiscal Year (FY) 2005 budget represents a 49% increase for elementary and secondary education since FY 2001".

8) George Bush is a staunch supporter of the pro-life movement and signed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban into effect.

9) A rudimentary nuclear missile defense system will for the first time go online later this year thanks to George Bush.

10) George Bush's five-year, $15 billion Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief is the most significant strike against the spread of AIDS/HIV in the history of mankind.

11) "...Lynn Faulkner, his daughter, Ashley, and their neighbor, Linda Prince, eagerly waited to shake the president's hand Tuesday at the Golden Lamb Inn. He worked the line at a steady campaign pace, smiling, nodding and signing autographs until Prince spoke:

This girl lost her mom in the World Trade Center on 9-11."

Bush stopped and turned back.

"He changed from being the leader of the free world to being a father, a husband and a man," Faulkner said. "He looked right at her and said, 'How are you doing?' He reached out with his hand and pulled her into his chest."

Faulkner snapped one frame with his camera.

"I could hear her say, 'I'm OK,' " he said. "That's more emotion than she has shown in 2 1/2 years. Then he said, 'I can see you have a father who loves you very much.' "

"And I said, 'I do, Mr. President, but I miss her mother every day.' It was a special moment."

Special for Lynn Faulkner because the Golden Lamb was the place he and his wife, Wendy Faulkner, celebrated their anniversary every year until she died in the south tower of the World Trade Center, where she had traveled for business.

..."The way he was holding me, with my head against his chest, it felt like he was trying to protect me," Ashley said. "I thought, 'Here is the most powerful guy in the world, and he wants to make sure I'm safe.' I definitely had a couple of tears in my eyes, which is pretty unusual for me." -- More stories like this here

12) John Kerry missed 64% of his votes in the Senate last year and has missed more than 80% of them this year. If John Kerry isn't bothering to do the job he has, wouldn't it be a mistake to give him a promotion?

13) John Kerry claims to believe that life begins at conception. Yet, he voted against bills that would have banned partial birth abortion 6 times and he "also voted three times against bills requiring parental consent or notification for a minor to get an abortion. He also opposed making it a federal crime for anyone other than a parent to transport a minor across state lines to obtain an abortion." Kerry also usually receives a 100-percent rating from pro-abortion groups like NARAL and Planned Parenthood while the National Right to Life Committee regularly scores him at 0-percent. (Source: Peter Kirasow)

14) "Kerry then went on to promise that the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S. would be given a “path to citizenship” in his first 100 days in office." -- Matt Hayes at FOXNews describes a promise made by John Kerry in a speech at the national conference of the race identity group La Raza (The Race).

15) "The average middle-class family - which he defines as people in the middle-fifth of earners - would have paid an additional $1,933 in taxes this year if Kerry had prevailed on tax votes during the first Bush term. Over the next 10 years, that same family would pay an additional $15,440." -- The (Wheeling, WV) Intelligencer on May 18, 2004

16) John Kerry publicly supported a 50 cent tax increase on gasoline.

17) Kerry did, in fact, vote over 350 times for higher taxes.

18) When the going got tough, George Bush got going and fought tooth and nail to give tax relief to American families. He worked hard to end the marriage penalty, increased the size of the child tax credit, gave Americans their hard earned tax dollars back in the form of rebates, and saw to it that 92 million Americans got to keep an average of $1,083 more of their own money.

Most importantly, by taking the government's hand out of the American's people's pockets, George. W. Bush gave the American economy the stimulus it needed to grow and create jobs again.

19) We've had 10 straight months of job growth and over a million jobs have been created this year so far thanks to George Bush's tax cut

[Conservative Front]

20) "The 17 percent productivity growth from the first quarter of 2000 to the first quarter of 2004 stands head and shoulders above the growth rate for any comparable period. In fact, it is better than any eight-year period since 1976. In the first 13 quarters of the Bush Administration, the basic determinant of our standard of living increased by almost as much as during the entire 32 quarters of the Clinton Administration." -- Arnold Kling at Tech Central Station

21) Over the last nine months, the economy has been booming. In the 80s, the average GDP was +2.9%. In the 90s, the average GDP growth was 3.1%. Over the last three quarters, the average GDP growth of the economy has been a sizzling 5.4%.

22) "(M)any analysts are forecasting that the overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, will grow by 4.6 percent or better this year, the fastest in two decades.

There were strong 4.5 percent growth rates in 1997 and 1999, when Bill Clinton was president and the country was in the midst of a record 10-year expansion.

But if this year's growth ends up a bit faster than that, it will be the best since the economy roared ahead at a 7.2 percent rate in 1984, a year when another Republican president - Ronald Reagan - was running for re-election." -- Associated Press, July 6, 2004

23) In Afghanistan, we were told going in that the war would be long, difficult, and perhaps even unwinnable. A lesser man than George Bush might have gotten weak kneed at the prospect of sending our troops into a "mountainous Vietnam" and found some sort of excuse not to go. But, not only did we take the fight to our enemies in Afghanistan, we bombed Al-Qaeda's camps, decimated the Taliban, drove them out of power in less than two months, and sent our enemies running to Pakistan and remote caves on the Afghan border, where they live even today as hunted men. This is even more impressive than it sounds since our defeatist press was crying "quagmire" & "Vietnam" as we bombed our enemies into oblivion.

24) "With respect to getting our troops out, the measure is the stability of Iraq. [Democracy] shouldn't be the measure of when you leave. I have always said from day one that the goal here . . . is a stable Iraq, not whether or not that's a full democracy." -- John Kerry waffles on Democracy in Iraq, April 2004

25) Almost a year after we invaded Iraq, in an interview with Time, John Kerry still was not able to explain whether he was for the war in Iraq. Can we trust anyone that indecisive to be President?

Time: What would you have done about Iraq had you been the President?

Kerry: If I had been the President, I might have gone to war but not the way the President did. It might have been only because we had exhausted the remedies of inspections, only because we had to—because it was the only way to enforce the disarmament.

Time: But it turns out there was nothing to disarm.

Kerry: Well, if we had kept on inspecting properly and gone through the process appropriately, we might have avoided almost a $200 billion expenditure, the loss of lives and the scorn of the world and the breaking of so many relationships.

Time: Would you say your position on Iraq is a) it was a mistaken war; b) it was a necessary war fought in a bad way; or c) fill in the blank?

Kerry: I think George Bush rushed to war without exhausting the remedies available to him, without exhausting the diplomacy necessary to put the U.S. in the strongest position possible, without pulling together the logistics and the plan to shore up Iraq immediately and effectively.

Time: And you as Commander in Chief would not have made these mistakes but would have gone to war?

Kerry: I didn't say that.

Time: I'm asking.

Kerry: I can't tell you.

Time: Might the war have been avoided?

Kerry: Yes.

Time: Through inspections?

Kerry: It's possible. It's not a certainty, but it's possible. I'm not going to tell you hypothetically when you've reached the point of exhaustion that you have to [use force] and your intelligence is good enough that it tells you you've reached that moment. But I can tell you this: I would have asked a lot of questions they didn't. I would have tried to do a lot of diplomacy they didn't. ...

Time: Obviously it's good that Saddam is out of power. Was bringing him down worth the cost?

Kerry: If there are no weapons of mass destruction— and we may yet find some—then this is a war that was fought on false pretenses, because that was the justification to the American people, to the Congress, to the world, and that was clearly the frame of my vote of consent. I said it as clearly as you can in my speech. I suggested that all the evils of Saddam Hussein alone were not a cause to go to war.

Time: So, if we don't find WMD, the war wasn't worth the costs? That's a yes?

Kerry: No, I think you can still—wait, no. You can't—that's not a fair question, and I'll tell you why. You can wind up successful in transforming Iraq and changing the dynamics, and that may make it worth it, but that doesn't mean [transforming Iraq] was the cause [that provided the] legitimacy to go. You have to have that distinction.

26) As Larry Kudlow pointed out in a recent column,

"A new poll of Iraqis shows that 68 percent have confidence in the interim government, 73 percent approve of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, and 84 percent approve of President Ghazi Yawar. Nearly 80 percent of Iraqis expect that the new government will “make things better” for Iraq after the handover."

In January, the Iraqis are scheduled to have national elections. Iraq is steadily moving towards freedom and Democracy because of George Bush's planning and steady leadership.

27) So far, artillery shells containing mustard gas, sarin, & cyclosarin have been found in Iraq. Furthermore, former chief weapons inspector David Kay also pointed out that Iraq was "working to produce a (chemical) weapon using the poison ricin until the American invasion last March". Also, Kay noted in his interim report that the Iraqis planned to produce more weapons,

"Even those senior officials we have interviewed who claim no direct knowledge of any on-going prohibited activities readily acknowledge that Saddam intended to resume these programs whenever the external restrictions were removed.".

Thanks to George Bush, Saddam's WMD's, however many he had of them, aren't going to be a threat in the future.

28) Without question, Iraq was a nation that provided "safe haven" for terrorists with "global reach". Among them were terrormaster Abu Nidal, Abdul Rahman Yasin, one of the conspirators in the 1993 WTC bombing, "Khala Khadr al-Salahat, the man who reputedly made the bomb for the Libyans that brought down Pan Am Flight 103 over...Scotland,"Abu Abbas, mastermind of the October 1985 Achille Lauro hijacking and murder of Leon Klinghoffer," & "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, formerly the director of an al Qaeda training base in Afghanistan" who is now believed to be leading Al-Qaeda's forces in Iraq. Quite frankly, any war on terrorism that didn't tackle that nest of vipers would have been a war in name only. Going after them showed George Bush's leadership against the global scourge of terrorism.

29) In Iraq, we removed Saddam Hussein, an anti-American tyrant & sponsor of terrorism who started two wars of aggression in the region while he simultaneously raped, tortured, and butchered his own people with a zeal matched by few figures in modern history. Once the war began, the performance of our military was incomparable. Saddam's forces were defeated, scattered to the four winds in less than a month, even as the press, a week into the war, was again baying the dreaded "V word" loud and often. George Bush made it possible.

[Conservative Front]

30) "There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down." -- John Kerry, April 18, 1971

31) "(Kerry) encouraged our enemies to rebuild and hang on when they were near defeat, as they were after the Tet offensive in 1968. Did you know our POWs had John Kerry's words quoted to them by their interrogators?" -- Retired U.S. Navy SEAL captain with service in Vietnam, John Bailey

32) "John Kerry's recent admissions caused me to realize that I was most likely in Vietnam dodging enemy rockets on the very day he met in Paris with Madame Binh, the representative of the Viet Cong to the Paris Peace Conference. John Kerry returned to the U.S. to become a national spokesperson for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a radical fringe of the antiwar movement, an organization set upon propagating the myth of war crimes through demonstrably false assertions. Who was the last American POW to die languishing in a North Vietnamese prison forced to listen to the recorded voice of John Kerry disgracing their service by his dishonest testimony before the Senate?" -- John O'Neil in May, 2004

33) "Hundreds of former commanders and military colleagues of presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry are set to declare in a signed letter that he is "unfit to be commander-in-chief." They will do so at a press conference in Washington on Tuesday.

"What is going to happen on Tuesday is an event that is really historical in dimension," John O'Neill, a Vietnam veteran who served in the Navy as a PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) boat commander, told CNSNews.com. The event, which is expected to draw about 25 of the letter-signers, is being organized by a newly formed group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

"We have 19 of 23 officers who served with [Kerry]. We have every commanding officer he ever had in Vietnam. They all signed a letter that says he is unfit to be commander-in-chief," O'Neill said." -- Every commanding officer John Kerry had in Vietnam says he is unfit to be President

34) "The USA Patriot Act brought down the artificial wall separating law enforcement and intelligence officers and allowed them to talk to each other as they work to prevent future attacks." The Bush Administration's support of the Patriot Act has helped to make America safer from terrorist attacks.

35) Thanks to George Bush's diplomacy, Libya gave up its WMD program and a nuclear arms ring run by a Pakistani scientist has also been put out of business.

36) We smashed Al-Qaeda's training camps in Afghanistan, killed or captured more than 2/3rd's of Al-Qaeda's leadership, have blocked Al-Qaeda from attacking inside the US for more than 2 1/2 years, and according to the 9/11 commission, Al-Qaeda's funding has started to dry up,

"Since the September 11 attacks and the defeat of the Taliban, as Qaeda's funding has decreased significantly. The arrests or deaths of several important financial facilitators have decreased the amount of money al Qaeda has raised and increased the costs and difficulty of raising and moving that money.

...Moreover, it appears that the al Qaeda attacks within Saudi Arabia in May and November 2003 have reduced - perhaps drastically - at Qaeda's ability to raise funds from Saudi sources. Both an increase in Saudi enforcement and a more negative perception of al Qaeda by potential donors have cut its income."

Because of George Bush, we are slowly but surely winning the war on terrorism.

37) "Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said during last night's Democratic presidential debate that the threat of terrorism has been exaggerated. "I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism. "They are misleading all Americans in a profound way." -- Washington Times on Jan 30, 2004

38) "Running For Senate In 1984, Kerry Called For Cancellation Of At Least 27 Weapons Systems And Reductions In 18 Other Systems. “[Kerry] recommended cancellation of 27 weapons systems including the B1 bomber, the cruise missile, MX missile, Trident submarine, Patriot air defense missile, F15 fighter plane, Sparrow missile, stealth bomber and Pershing II missile. He recommended reductions in 18 other systems including the joint tactical air system, the Bradley fighting vehicle, the M1 Abrams tank and the F16 fighter plane." -- RNC Research

39) ---A PICTURE and Im too lazy to post it----


40) "In 1994, Kerry proposed an amendment to gut the Intelligence Budget by $6 billion across the board. The amendment cut $1 billion from FY 1994 and $5 billion for FY 1995 through 1998". -- RNC

[dutchie]

If you would have posted this during a dutch election, voters from all parties would have agreed you'd have gone completely nuts and laughed their heads off. Working on emotions, mudslinging. Where did you dig this all up?!? Provide us with a link, so we can test the degree of bias from your source.

[bbbv3.5]

quote: mudslinging....

is that a phrase or a real words...just a question...

[playmaker88]

Isn't there a forum on here set aside for postings of long-winded

[bbbv3.5]

Ummm.....i think he wrote it...look..its like in his style of bashing Kerry,

[humanhybrid]

Today's Quote

"As the Niger uranium scandal grows, it is increasingly clear the White House's campaign to drive Americans into an unjustified, unnecessary war had nothing to do with Iraq's alleged weapons, nor its internal repression. Bush's crusade against Iraq was designed to assuage Americans' fury and fear over 9/11 by making Saddam Hussein a whipping boy for the attack in which he had no part. The jolly little wars against Afghanistan and Iraq were also designed to make Americans forget the Bush White House had been caught with its pants down by 9/11, and was asleep at the switch in the Enron financial disaster. Who now remembers that Attorney General John Ashcroft actually cut spending on anti-terrorism before 9/11, or that Washington was giving millions to the Taliban until four months before 9/11? How better to get Americans to support a war than by insinuating, as did Bush, that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, and claiming Saddam was about to attack the U.S. with weapons of mass destruction? Thanks to the shameful complicity of the U.S. media, which amplified White House propaganda, Americans were led to believe Iraq attacked the U.S. on 9/11, and was in league with al-Qaida. Bush's faux war on terrorism was redirected, by clever White House spin, into a hugely popular campaign against Iraq. The litany of lies produced by the White House and its neo-con allies would be farcical were it not for the deaths of so many Americans and Iraqis... [L]ying to get one's country into an unnecessary war is an outrage, and ought to be an impeachable offence. "

"Bush Deserves to be Impeached," in the Toronto Sun
Eric Margolis, 20-Jul-03 http://democrats.com/

[humanhybrid]

Pentagon needs billions more in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yes lets get this out of presidency this election. He is bankrupting America while the chicken hawks make hefty profits rebuilding, at the taxpayers expence. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5480046/ YES ITS TRUE!

[bbbv3.5]

HH please dont kill me. Literally.

Alright so you dont like being taxed for the war in Afghanastan, Iraq and furture war Iran. So you want nothing....except a blown up MSG and left in rubble Washington DC. War is inevitbale after 9/11. What do you want us to do HH??? Iran and Iraq have connections with other threatful terrorist groups. They need to be taken out.


Al Queda is in Aghanastan. Madrid...9/11....remember those attacks. And plus a link giving us to democrats.com isnt going to change any republicans vote so you can kiss that theory's ass goodbye. I need proof for this pre war strike on Iraq....

So you tell me genius....what do you want us to do???

And also im getting mad at another thing. Duthcie you have yelled at CF a numerous amount of times for bashing kerry. You dont like election propraganda and i understand that. But look at HH and others who all they do is bash Bush... how come nothing is said to them!

P.S. - The toront sun??? Canada hates America yet they dont understand that without us there frozen asses would have melted from radiation effects.

[Conservative Front]

I don't remember the website I got it off of but all the quotes are sourced.

---end response to dutchie---

The Canadians, will love us once they get sick, because they have two options. Wait in a 10 year long line for Heart Surgy (or to see a doctor) or come to the states and pay for a doctor. Canada is proof that socialized medicine doesn't work. The Canadians hate us because well id hate too say it they don't know any better they believe what there told and follow it too a tee.

---end response to HH--

**Yep, lets instate a president that people want simply because it isn't Bush. Who will put you indebt with Tax hikes and social programs. Who would do nothing to defend our country that'd be an excellent move.
and its kind of funny the democrats are already taking about Hillary in 2008...


**Source: Foxnews.com (poll),Pollster

---end response to hh(2)---

[humanhybrid]

And also im getting mad at another thing. Duthcie you have yelled at CF a numerous amount of times for bashing kerry. You dont like election propraganda and i understand that. But look at HH and others who all they do is bash Bush... how come nothing is said to them!

Well it couldnt be that what Bush has been doing and has done that he gets bashed is it? I dont like Kerry but because he has not served as a president how could anyone sensiably bash him? good day!

[dutchie]

Personally I could not care less who the next person is that gets his turn in screwing over your country. Bush, Kerry, Santa, it's all the same to me.

What I do mind is page after precious page of dirt throwing. I have said this numerous times, and I am now sick and tired of all you morons refusing to understand plain English.

So, sod you all and bye bye.

[dcookcan]

P.S. - The toront sun??? Canada hates America yet they dont understand that without us there frozen asses would have melted from radiation effects.

The Canadians, will love us once they get sick, because they have two options. Wait in a 10 year long line for Heart Surgy (or to see a doctor) or come to the states and pay for a doctor. Canada is proof that socialized medicine doesn't work. The Canadians hate us because well id hate too say it they don't know any better they believe what there told and follow it too a tee.

A good friend of mine once said that you shouldn't believe everything you hear and probably half of what you see. This is a good case in point. As a Canadian, I know that we would not have the great country we do have if it weren't for the US. Some Canadians believe we are somehow different from our American neighbors - BS. We are Americans living in a colder climate who are being taxed to death. If we ever slow down the flow of oil going to Chicago from Alberta, we will be invaded - without resistance. We might as well start flying the US flag now, why fight it.

I do not hate Americans. Most Canadians are the same.

[Strife]

I'm tired of this, but here I go. 40+ reasons not to care about this is sumed up in one word, setup. I just hope the days wont get any worse than they are at the moment even though it seems inevitable if you noticed the path we're headed in, the wrong direction.

[Emerald_Dragon]

>But look at HH and others who all they do is bash Bush...
>how come nothing is said to them!

plenty is said to them, by the likes of you.


>War is inevitbale after 9/11.

singular? or plural?

Ever heard of the Reichstag? Do you know any history?

[Conservative Front]

Glad to hear it dcookcan, My references was from a dynamic fox poll that showed some 75% of Teenagers in Canada think America is evil. I'm glad too see people like you see the truth. Instead of following the heard up there.

---end response to dcookcan---

Setup? Give me a break, next your going to tell me that the 2000 Election was a setup right? But of course if Bush wins it will be a setup what if Kerry wins does that make it a setup? Or legitimate? But I understand what you mean If Bush wins It must be a setup because the American people could never want too elect him

---end response to sirius---

[Strife]

You actually BELIEVE the 2000 election was fair? Geez CF, theres plenty of info around here to give you a sense of whats going on. I take no sides between Bush and Kerry. I stay open to the possibilities of what these 'conspiracies' have to say. Tell me CF, do you work for the government?

By the way the name is Strife, caboose.

[Emerald_Dragon]

>Give me a break, next your going to tell me that the 2000 Election was a setup right?

more 'rigged' than setup. you didn't bother to look into it, did you? ever heard of the 1,000,000 discounted votes? Ever hear that Gore won Florida? Then the turnaround that said he didn't? by your favorite news channel Fox? The same one who happens to be related to your intellectual equal? the GWB? I'm not sure that has ever happened. Something like that almost happened during WWII. Who would lose their own state?

BTW, do you know what the CIA specialize in? what do you think would happen if they applied their skills within our borders, instead of without?

>But I understand what you mean If Bush wins It must be a setup because the
>American people could never want too elect him

don't you get it? it doesn't matter who wins, we've lost. we already have a deficit larger than we've ever known, we're already committed to an unnecessary war that wasn't ours. its pretty clear that intelligence was faulty, as argued by many people pre-war, yet we went in anyway?

[Conservative Front]

No, I don't work for the Government. and I don't think the 2000 election was setup.

---end response to Strife---


**Gore's campaign that said he won florida was accutally several hours before the polls opened he was giving and speech and had a sign that said he won Florida it was later proven that He went back to his hometown after the polls opened to watch the election and all the news stations admitted there broadcasting of it was flawed.

Faulty intelligence or not the world is now safer thanks to the removal of Saddam you can't deny that. and You can't blame Bush for bad intelligence. Why don't you blame the person who denouced our Intelligence in the first place what was his name Clinton? He signed the act that wouldn't allow the FBI and CIA to share information and that has been proven to be one of the biggest fault lines in our intelligence.

---end response to emerald dragon---

**Source: Foxnews,CNN,Msnbc,SwornEnemy,ConservativePush.blog spot.com,Rocky Mountian news,Denver Post