Let's stop Bush-bashing and listen to what he has to say

**humanhybrid** · Aug 31st, 2004 8:16 PM

Among the half a million demonstrators peacefully thronging the streets of Manhattan on Sunday, the verdict against George Bush was instantly familiar to any visiting European. He's dumb, he's dangerous, he's divisive - and more: he's a warmonger, a liar, a threat to liberty, a despoiler of the planet, an agent of the corporations. Though the march was a quintessential New York event - extrovert, exhibitionist and (the bit that foreigners often overlook) earnest - it was also one that could have taken place in dozens of other great cities across the world. http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...293943,00.html

***bbbv3.5*** · Sep 1st, 2004 12:08 AM

get a drink or a joint or soemyhing that will cal m you down and chill man....no need to type it in big red letters..how many are going to see it...not many so wats the point...

***midnightsonblaze*** · Sep 1st, 2004 12:58 AM

I don't care to hear what Bush says..he's a liar and a thief......if it wasn't for Daddy and Karl Rove Bush wouldn't be able to find his head if it wasn't screwed on....

Later........

**humanhybrid** · Sep 1st, 2004 1:19 AM

get a drink or a joint or soemyhing that will cal m you down and chill man....no need to type it in big red letters..how many are going to see it...not many so wats the point...

I guess your right, Ill sit on some ice to chill. good day! PS: thanx!

***dutchie*** · Sep 1st, 2004 2:47 AM

HH, shouting (writing in VERY big pointsizes, or using ONLY capitals) is not allowed on the forum.

What amazed me personally is the attitude of the NYPD, who seemed overzealous in arresting whoever blinked an eye in their direction. 500 arrests among people who really did nothing wrong... sheer overkill if you ask me.

**Dhanishta** · Sep 1st, 2004 4:27 AM

George bush should be bashed over the head by my grandmother and her brolly. He is a liar and a cheat. Why should anyone give any time to listen to the machinations of a compulsive liar. How boring he is! Liars don't deserve to be heard not little children.

**LC Jeffries** · Sep 1st, 2004 5:13 AM

The same can be said about every other leader in the World. It least George has some decent values.

**Dhanishta** · Sep 1st, 2004 5:52 AM

well we all know that that is probably just to keep up appearances. Has to have a good public image. Being a member of the skull and bones society and having affiliations with the oil companies raping Iraq doesn't exactly gel with having decent values. Read the bible again. Im afraid he hasn't.

***dutchie*** · Sep 1st, 2004 6:01 AM

Decent values....

Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, I'm afraid... Personally I can not see the decency in very many of GWB's doings...

***mickydoolittle*** · Sep 1st, 2004 6:34 AM

Originally Posted by Dhanishta

Why should anyone give any time to listen to the machinations of a compulsive liar. Liars don't deserve to be heard not little children.

No no...you're confused--you're thinking of Clinton. He's not president any longer, but his closeted-dyke-of-an-alleged-wife will probably take it in 2008 or 2012.

**Donsun** · Sep 1st, 2004 10:29 AM

I have watched both conventions so far. Arnold was awesome last night. So were Macain and Julliani the night before. I listened to the democrats during there convention and I have to tell you I felt little or no energy. Just the same old promises every politician makes. The republicans are putting on one hell of a convention so far. I don't agree with everything our president does or even the ones in the past. I am not sure who i will vote for but i am listening to both sides and right now Bush is the less of two evils in my book.

**Electric T-Bird** · Sep 1st, 2004 10:43 AM

Is John Kerry any better?

From I what I am seeing, I don't think so.

***DarkAce*** · Sep 1st, 2004 12:44 PM

Arnold should be president, than those State addresses wouldn't be so boring...

"These girly middle eastern men...."

**humanhybrid** · Sep 1st, 2004 5:24 PM

The Bush Record: Industry Runs Roughshod Over Environment

Drill everywhere! Foul the oceans! Pollute the skies! That's great if you're Big Business, but lousy if you're anybody else. Bush's policies are undoing decades of environmental protection and leaving a dirty world for our children and children's children to inherit. For the environment, a change in the White House would be a breath of fresh air.
Bush Is Pro-Dirty Air

President Bush has weakened the Clean Air Act at every turn. The "New Source Review" regulation of the Clear Air Act forced older coal-fired power plants and other facilities to install pollution controls when they expand or are repaired. But under President Bush, the New Source regulations have been significantly weakened, allowing power plants to more pollution into the air. Statistics released by the Clean Air Task Force noted that the 51 power plants subject to New Source Review enforcement helped to cause the premature deaths of 5,500 to 9,000 people each year, many from respiratory diseases.1
Under Bush, You Pay for Cleanup

Corporate polluters used to pay to clean their own messes. Now Bush is shifting the costs to you. The Superfund program was created to ensure that corporate polluters bore the brunt of the costs of cleaning up the worst environmental disasters. But under President Bush, funding cuts and a failure to collect penalties from polluters is creating a shift in costs right to the taxpayer. Superfund assets have declined to nearly zero. Now your tax dollars will pay for 80 percent of the program in 2004, and all Superfund cleanups in 2005.2
Public Lands to the Highest Bidder

Bush opened 9 million acres of public land to logging. In December 2003, the Bush Administration removed prohibitions on logging and mining in the forest largest national forest in the U.S., the Tongass National Forest in southeastern Alaska. The decision could "allow roads to be built through 9 million acres" of Tongass. Bush has fought to allow the oil industry to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as well as protected national parks, monuments, and public lands in the Rocky Mountains.3
Would You Like Some Mercury With That?

Bush proposed weakening mercury regulations in Clean Air Act. A proposed rule change by the Bush EPA would remove mercury emissions from Clean Air Act regulations that limit the most toxic air pollutants and shift the poison to a weaker category, despite the FDA and EPA's own recent recommendation that pregnant women and young children eat less tuna and other seafoods to avoid excessive mercury consumption. Approximately 630,000 babies are born in the United States every year to mothers who have been exposed to unsafe mercury levels.4

Sources: 1New York Times, 7/11/01; Baltimore Sun, 8/28/03; Chicago Tribune, 8/28/03; Los Angeles Times, 8/28/03; Washington Post, 8/28/03; 2General Accounting Office, 7/29/03; Boston Globe, 1/9/04; New York Times, 7/1/02; The Bush Administration's FY2005 Budget for the Environment: Putting Our Future at Risk, 2/4/04; 3Seattle Post Intelligencer, 12/24/03; Los Angeles Times, 12/24/03; Denver Post, 3/15/01; Washington Post, 4/18/02; 4New York Times, 12/3/03, 2/10/04; Washington Post, 12/3/03; Pioneer Press, 10/6/03; Houston Chronicle, 12/5/03; Associated Press, 12/15/03

**Moishe3rd** · Sep 1st, 2004 6:12 PM

Examining carefully the cogent arguments regarding the Republican and Democratic nominees for President of these United States of America, the major points of disagreements become quite clear.
The Democrats (and our foreign friends) are united and strong in their overwhelming, often stated, seething, hatred of President George Bush.
John Kerry is not President George Bush (believe me - I knew GW and John Kerry is no George Bush) and therefore, cogito ergo Kerry, John Ketchup Kerry should be President of these United States.

Speaking ex cathedra from the belly button:

President Bush is going to win in a landslide.

No one - not in American history - ever, ever became President only because people hated the other guy.
Every man needs a platform and the only boat Kerry had, sunk.

***lotrfan55345*** · Sep 1st, 2004 8:15 PM

The aove doesn't make sense to me...

(this is not intended to be a flame)

***substand*** · Sep 1st, 2004 11:50 PM

The aove doesn't make sense to me...

take the latin words and look them up on google or dictionary.com or a law book, or just search for them and you'll find the meaning =) ... basically it means:

Moishe3rd has examined the arguments on both sides and come to the conclusion that the only thing Kerry has going for him is that he is not Bush, and thus will lose in a landslide because no one has won simply on hatred of the other guy, kerry needs a platform.

But all that should be taken with a grain of salt because Moishe3rd was speaking with "authority derived from the belly button." (basically, that is how I read it)

**humanhybrid** · Sep 2nd, 2004 1:03 AM

But all that should be taken with a grain of salt because Moishe3rd was speaking with "authority derived from the belly button." (basically, that is how I read it)

LOL! I wonder if it is peirced!

**Moishe3rd** · Sep 2nd, 2004 8:43 AM

Originally Posted by substand

take the latin words and look them up on google or dictionary.com or a law book, or just search for them and you'll find the meaning =) ... basically it means:

Moishe3rd has examined the arguments on both sides and come to the conclusion that the only thing Kerry has going for him is that he is not Bush, and thus will lose in a landslide because no one has won simply on hatred of the other guy, kerry needs a platform.

But all that should be taken with a grain of salt because Moishe3rd was speaking with "authority derived from the belly button." (basically, that is how I read it)

Well translated. And absolutely correct.

***bbbv3.5*** · Sep 2nd, 2004 5:23 PM

[QUOTE=dutchie]HH, shouting (writing in VERY big pointsizes, or using ONLY capitals) is not allowed on the forum.

What amazed me personally is the attitude of the NYPD, who seemed overzealous in arresting whoever blinked an eye in their direction. 500 arrests among people who really did nothing wrong... sheer overkill if you ask me.[/QUOTE

Dutchie.....a couple of days ago I went into Manhattan (not for the RNC but to go to an argentine restauraunt) and let me assure you....i saw what some of those protestors do and its not pretty. They plead they re innocent (just like OJ) but there not. Isee them getting into fights with people who walk with pro bush shirts....some of them are chanting loud cursing....some of them are littering for no reason....

These people were acting like animals (i bet there were some of them anti kerry in boston). It wasnt like a bunch of teachers on strike.....

Plus what shocked me was that there were some people bashing bush for not giving money to aids. When he has given the most money to aids then any othr president and yet it is not enuogh. Now it looks like they are bahing bush just to bahs him.

***Defiant Noquisi*** · Sep 2nd, 2004 9:05 PM

Originally Posted by LC Jeffries

The same can be said about every other leader in the World. It least George has some decent values.

Thats right, every value pointed out to him by Dick Cheney the puppetmaster.

***Defiant Noquisi*** · Sep 2nd, 2004 9:09 PM

Originally Posted by mickydoolittle

No no...you're confused--you're thinking of Clinton. He's not president any longer, but his closeted-dyke-of-an-alleged-wife will probably take it in 2008 or 2012.

No, there wasnt any confusion. Bush is dead on the most public liar there is, and gleefully gets away with it.

**Rage_Garden** · Sep 2nd, 2004 10:02 PM

Although I do think it is a great deed to humanity to increase the spending I just don't think its a fraction of what could and should be spent. The amount of money spent to improve the biggest killing machine ever has risen from 300.1 Billion to nearly 400 Billion per year since the year 2001. Six times as much in 1 less year than what will be going to AIDs. The 2003 AIDs spending was 2.3 Billion per year, the military spending per year is 170 times that. When the 15 Billion per year is finally in place the military spending now will still be 26 times that. A good start to fight AIDs but still to small in the long run. Can you imagine if the spending were in reverse, we might be able to even cure aids with that much.

**humanhybrid** · Sep 4th, 2004 1:51 AM

Plus what shocked me was that there were some people bashing bush for not giving money to aids. When he has given the most money to aids then any othr president and yet it is not enuogh. Now it looks like they are bahing bush just to bahs him.

Where are you drawing your statistics from bbbv2.0

Dutchie.....a couple of days ago I went into Manhattan (not for the RNC but to go to an argentine restauraunt) and let me assure you....i saw what some of those protestors do and its not pretty. They plead they re innocent (just like OJ) but there not. Isee them getting into fights with people who walk with pro bush shirts....some of them are chanting loud cursing....some of them are littering for no reason...

Interesting as alot of people with the same behavior that doesn't like protesters who are getting into fights with people who walk with protestor shirts....some of them are chanting loud cursing. It bothers the Bushwhackers that they are patriots marching against a president who lies. Clinton may have screwed an intern but Bushatola screwed our country and has sent our children to die on lies. If in fact he felt any remorse about lieing most people would apologize and see the need for not killing. HAS Bushatola?? good day!