Is the Catholic Church a force for good?

[Vuall]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_zNh...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S9tX...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C5t_...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBq-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghdt7...eature=related

It's well worth watching all 5 video's they aren't very long.

But I wonder if the end result had anything to do with Stephen Fry's charisma and popularity than his arguments.

[The Word]

Daniel 2: A Prophecy about Christianity



The following prophecy was written by Daniel, a prophet of God's who received a message from him through the dreams of King Nebuchanezzar, the Babylonian king who had his army destroy Jerusalem and capture many Jews. Daniel's writings were about end time prophesies and this one in particular shows the religion of Christianity that came out of the fourth Kingdom, which was the Roman Empire.

Most people don't realize that the Roman government had a law forbidding the gospel being preached soon after the disciples became sinless saints and preached the same gospel as Jesus did, which is the voice of God. The Romans kept killing the saints until they were all eliminated by the early fourth century. With many followers left, the Romans had to find a way to deceive them so they started the religion of Christianity and changed the writings of some saints they killed to make a falsified new testament. This started the famine of the Word found in the prophesies of Amos 8:11-12 and Daniel 9:22-27.

The beast that Daniel interpreted had a head of gold to describe the Babylonian Empire. The silver chest and arms described the Persia-Medes Kingdom. The bronze belly and thighs was the Greek world rule and the legs of iron was the Roman Empire. The feet of iron and clay come out of the fourth Kingdom and is symbolic for a continued world power that will be destroyed at the end of this age.

The only world kingdom that has remained intact since the fourth kingdom of the Roman Empire is Christianity. The Vatican and the Roman Catholic church were a dominating world power for over a thousand years and they still have world influence. This is the symbolic iron feet of Daniel's beast and the clay symbolizes the Protestant churches with all it's denominations. Clay breaks into many pieces when struck on a hard object. This world power is in place today but it will be destroyed when the earth's crust is melted by hot lava, which won't be long from now.

Here's the prophecy that reveals Christianity as part of the beast that will be destroyed in the end.


Daniel 2
31: "You saw, O king, and behold, a great image. This image, mighty and of exceeding brightness, stood before you, and its appearance was frightening.
32: The head of this image was of fine gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze,
33: its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
34: As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it smote the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces;
35: then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

This prophecy shows that the saints were killed by the Roman Empire ( horn) and that the saints will receive the kingdom after all these earthly kingdoms are destroyed.

Daniel 7
17: `These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth.
18: But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, for ever and ever.'
19: "Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrible, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze; and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped the residue with its feet;
20: and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up and before which three of them fell, the horn which had eyes and a mouth that spoke great things, and which seemed greater than its fellows.
21: As I looked, this horn made war with the saints, and prevailed over them
22: until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.
23: "Thus he said: `As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.

[Vuall]

Was that a yes or a no Brad, I cant work it out.

[The Word]

Was that a yes or a no Brad, I cant work it out.

Christianity is a false religion that has nothing to do with the truth of God. But God did use Judaism and Christianity to carry the prophecies from one prophet to the next and then to the messiah and saints. All the saints but me were killed before Christianity was started by the Romans who killed the saints. So Christianity was used by God to carry the prophecies to the last days for his last saint to read. Since I'm his last saint he's using before the end comes, he had me read the prophecies and speak the inspired words he gave me to end this age. The power of God is the Word, which is light energy. These prophecies show that everything on earth will be destroyed when the crust is melted by hot molten lava.

As you can see, there isn't any yes or no answer, especially when a sinner asks the question.

[Vuall]

False or not, sinners or saints, it's immaterial to the question.

Was the audience swayed by charisma and popularity, or argument?

[lycanox]

Not more or less than any other religion is.

[The Word]

False or not, sinners or saints, it's immaterial to the question.

Was the audience swayed by charisma and popularity, or argument?

God planned everything before creation so we are living exactly the way he planned life for us. He planned religion to be a deception from the truth. The Roman Catholic and Protestant churches are deceptions and called the symbolic feet of iron and clay. This is because they don't mix well but they both came from the same deception of the false Jesus and gospels they produced.

I man in a nice suit with lots of charisma can charm millions of people with nothing but lies. Jesus and us saints can't charm anyone into being a sinless saint. God planned which chosen ones can hear his voice. His voice is the gospel that only the messiah and us saints preached.

[Cherisa]

God planned everything before creation.... God planned which chosen ones can hear his voice. His voice is the gospel that only the messiah and us saints preached.

So, why do you even post? for your own enjoyment? to convince others? to convince yourself??

[The Word]

So, why do you even post? for your own enjoyment? to convince others? to convince yourself??

For the same reason you post in here. God planned everything, including my posts. The only difference is that mine come directly from the knowledge of God and all other posts come from the corrupt flesh that can't understand the truth.

[Tsunami]

I think it was a really good debate. Even the Catholics in the audience were thinking for themselves and not just quoting texts.

I think Stevens charisma may have helped a little but I think it is his passion that is more convincing. Also, he never minces his words, and his arguements were very well formed. He thinks outside of the box too and is articulate in putting across his point.

I think the ArchBishop dug his own grave, so to speak, when he said "That is the wrong question" when he was cornered.

[The Word]

I think it was a really good debate. Even the Catholics in the audience were thinking for themselves and not just quoting texts.

I think Stevens charisma may have helped a little but I think it is his passion that is more convincing. Also, he never minces his words, and his arguements were very well formed. He thinks outside of the box too and is articulate in putting across his point.

I think the ArchBishop dug his own grave, so to speak, when he said "That is the wrong question" when he was cornered.

Stevens is a liar like everyone else in this world. The world loves lies because it has not known the truth of God.

[Max]

Who else thinks The Word should just be booted from AO already. Hes not even slightly amusing, like Jake99s messianic complex is, hes just a really dull, dull, dull, dull, dull, blackhole of dullness. I automatically skim over his dull posts and even that microseconds worth of effort to skim, makes me feel like my soul has been shredded into 5million shards of dull, beige, dull bloody dullness.

[The Word]

Who else thinks The Word should just be booted from AO already. Hes not even slightly amusing, like Jake99s messianic complex is, hes just a really dull, dull, dull, dull, dull, blackhole of dullness. I automatically skim over his dull posts and even that microseconds worth of effort to skim, makes me feel like my soul has been shredded into 5million shards of dull, beige, dull bloody dullness.

Sinners hate the true God and that's why you say God is dull and boring.

Jeremiah 6
10: To whom shall I speak and give warning, that they may hear? Behold, their ears are closed, they cannot listen; behold, the word of the LORD is to them an object of scorn, they take no pleasure in it.

John 15
18: "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
19: If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
25: It is to fulfil the word that is written in their law, `They hated me without a cause.

Psalm 44
7: But thou hast saved us from our foes, and hast put to confusion those who hate us.

[Max]

blahhhhblahhhhblahhhhh

[The Word]

blahhhhblahhhhblahhhhh

I know you hate the truth because you hate me.

[Cherisa]

I know you hate the truth because you hate me.

Yer so funny.. Nobody cares Brad..nobody hates you, WE FEEL SORRY FOR YOU..you are not making christains angry, you are puttin them to sleep.


you are gonna have to do better if you are trying to make someone here angry enough to kill you.

Anybody notice Raptor Witness stopped posting when Brad started pposting? HMMM

Max I love you! x

[The Word]

Yer so funny.. Nobody cares Brad..nobody hates you, WE FEEL SORRY FOR YOU..you are not making christains angry, you are puttin them to sleep.


you are gonna have to do better if you are trying to make someone here angry enough to kill you.

Anybody notice Raptor Witness stopped posting when Brad started pposting? HMMM

Max I love you! x

All it takes is one angry Christian, not all of them. I've already had my life threatened by a couple Christians and a few days ago, a Christian pastor wanted to kick my butt after five minutes of hearing the true gospel. Christians hate God with a passion because their worldly gods are more loved by them, particularly the false god of Jesus. It doesn't work to worship a god that you don't even know.

[Goldmoon]

In the world's eyes it is. They want you to like the pope.

[The Word]

In the world's eyes it is. They want you to like the pope.

The world likes their own ideas of what gods they choose to worship. The pope is just one god of the billions of gods that have been imagined in the minds of sinners.

[MHz]

All it takes is one angry Christian, not all of them. I've already had my life threatened by a couple Christians and a few days ago, a Christian pastor wanted to kick my butt after five minutes of hearing the true gospel.

Do you explain this part of your mission to those you are trying to get to kill you?
Re.11:5
And if any man will hurt them,
fire proceedeth out of their mouth,
and devoureth their enemies:
and if any man will hurt them,
he must in this manner be killed.
Re.11:6
These have power to shut heaven,
that it rain not in the days of their prophecy:
and have power over waters to turn them to blood,
and to smite the earth with all plagues,
as often as they will.

How's the weather in your area, the floods in the central regions could use your help brad, why are you denying them that assistance by holding back the rains? You aren't even in Jerusalem so you can be killed.

Re.11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
where also our Lord was crucified.

[Fut004]

God planned everything before creation so we are living exactly the way he planned life for us.

So, why do you even post? for your own enjoyment? to convince others? to convince yourself??

If this "God Planned" bullshit really is true, posting on AO is just the tip of the iceberg. If everything was planned ahead of time why do we bother getting up in the morning to go to work? Why do we pay our bills? Why do we collect food for the homeless and hungry? Why do we care about doing all of the little annoying things that we all have to do?

We shouldn't bother doing anything at all, because God's planned this all out and everything goes the way he wants it to.

Let me guess, Word. A billion years ago God thought about things, and planned out that he wanted me to say this on this exact day.

[Vuall]

So it was pre ordained that Stephen Fry would sway the audience then.

[Cherisa]

Do you explain this part of your mission to those you are trying to get to kill you?
Re.11:5
And if any man will hurt them,
fire proceedeth out of their mouth,
and devoureth their enemies:
and if any man will hurt them,
he must in this manner be killed.
Re.11:6
These have power to shut heaven,
that it rain not in the days of their prophecy:
and have power over waters to turn them to blood,
and to smite the earth with all plagues,
as often as they will.

How's the weather in your area, the floods in the central regions could use your help brad, why are you denying them that assistance by holding back the rains? You aren't even in Jerusalem so you can be killed.

Re.11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
where also our Lord was crucified.

Oh and Raptor Witness thinks he is one of the two witnesses...
So we have them both on AO..Fantastic!

[The Word]

If this "God Planned" bullshit really is true, posting on AO is just the tip of the iceberg. If everything was planned ahead of time why do we bother getting up in the morning to go to work? Why do we pay our bills? Why do we collect food for the homeless and hungry? Why do we care about doing all of the little annoying things that we all have to do?

We shouldn't bother doing anything at all, because God's planned this all out and everything goes the way he wants it to.

Let me guess, Word. A billion years ago God thought about things, and planned out that he wanted me to say this on this exact day.

Our flesh is controlled by the plans of God so we have no choices to make. The problem during this age is that the flesh of man is corrupt so it can't understand the power of God that controls it. The truth is kept from sinners and this is why religious sinners think they have free will. They need free will to make a choice for their gods but the truth already planned for them to worship their false gods.

Isaiah 1
3: The ox knows its owner, and the ass its master's crib; but Israel does not know, my people does not understand."

Ezekiel 37
23: They shall not defile themselves any more with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.