A fake plane was added for south tower explosion

**7forever** · Sep 9th, 2011 1:25 PM

This is so simple it's stupid.

The plane does not pass through the open skyline before it comes into view which proves a fake plane was added.

Advance this clip to 4:00 or before and see the plane created out of thin air from behind the building just right of the open and unobstructed skyline.
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**Fut004** · Sep 9th, 2011 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by 7forever

Advance this clip to 4:00 or before and see the plane created out of thin air from behind the building just right of the open and unobstructed skyline.

Wait, so you're one of the people who think that there were no planes? What, so they were digitally added to the footage later on?

Thousands of people witnessed this event first-hand, many of them with their own video cameras and shit. How would the conspirators ever pull this off? There would be countless home movies kicking around showing an explosion but no plane hitting the building.

Nut-job theories like this only serve to muddy the waters, and keep people from looking into the actual oddities surrounding this event.

***Vuall*** · Sep 9th, 2011 2:10 PM

the plane was removed from the first part of the footage with fotoshop. I can tell by the pixels!

***custompainter*** · Sep 9th, 2011 2:51 PM

Lol...............

**7forever** · Sep 10th, 2011 7:29 PM

The plane is an illusion in the wide angle shot...no doubt. You have divebomb footage and the fake plane going straight in. You can't have it both ways.

**DaKat** · Sep 14th, 2011 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by 7forever

The plane is an illusion

The BIGGEST illusion here is that YOU have a brain!

***Anarch*** · Sep 10th, 2011 7:39 PM

Not to derail or anything because a agree on some points but I'd rather discuss building 7 and how office furniture can bring down buildings in imagination land.

**Fut004** · Sep 10th, 2011 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by 7forever

The plane is an illusion in the wide angle shot...no doubt. You have divebomb footage and the fake plane going straight in. You can't have it both ways.

What about the thousands of eye witnesses?

Originally Posted by Anarch

Not to derail or anything because a agree on some points but I'd rather discuss building 7 and how office furniture can bring down buildings in imagination land.

Building 7 is a mystery for sure. Check out this post/thread.

**7forever** · Sep 11th, 2011 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Fut004

What about the thousands of eye witnesses?

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There were arguably a billion (at least) people who saw a plane hit tower 2 but there is live nbc (small affiliate) footage that showed no plane. Notice the orb on the right coming down at 6 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXIxbhgUDw

**7forever** · Sep 11th, 2011 12:49 PM

The cropped horizontal shot shown on TV travels west to east. The wide angle I posted and the divebomb footage are south to north.

**7forever** · Sep 11th, 2011 6:36 PM

They are told building 7 has fallen but it hasn't...yet. 40 seconds later it falls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFdc...B8D8AE&index=2

***Vuall*** · Sep 12th, 2011 12:26 PM

I wonder what the relatives of the 65 people that died in that plane would make of this thread.

Just out of interest, how do you account for the pieces of flight 175 recovered from the wreckage, or the DNA evidence of some of the passengers?

**lycanox** · Sep 12th, 2011 12:47 PM

The reports before it actually happens is just random fog of war confusion. The were also rumors on the media of more planes being hijacked, or the Sears towers being hit. None of these were correct.

And proving that you can photoshop an plane does not prove the impact never happened.
After all, there are millions of witness reports on the ground. Not to mention over hundred people videotaping the event from first impact to collapse.

The idea that those people will just forget all this just because of an trauma is stupid to such degree that you might aswell claim 911 was an plot committed by the Simpsons in an attempt to kill Elvis to prevent fairies from taking over the world.

Not to mention that it is much simpler to just really use a plane.

***Vuall*** · Sep 12th, 2011 1:40 PM

As for reporting it early. They all knew it was coming down. People were surprised it hadn't come down earlier. Not one person was killed by wt7 collapsing, the area had been cleared.

The fire department Had seen the structural damage an hour before it collapsed. In the confusion it seems this message got distorted to it's already collapsed.

**7forever** · Sep 12th, 2011 2:36 PM

Almost all live footage was zoomed in before impact and zoomed out afterward. This was done because no large plane or likely even a missile struck tower 2. Two live shots exist (that I know of) and both show a ball traveling west to east before impact. At six seconds look at the top right corner and notice the ball. No plane but a ufo moving slowly toward wtc 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SXIxbhgUDw

***Vuall*** · Sep 12th, 2011 2:42 PM

So you are going to ignore discussion, why is this, will your evidence not stand up to scrutiny?

Answer the questions.

**7forever** · Sep 12th, 2011 4:30 PM

2 fake planes 4 seconds before impact

The dive bomb footage was south to north which is (I think) the official flight path. The true flight path was west to east and consistent with the (BALL) ufo being the small plane that many described, including Matt Lauer. A flying saucer circled the tower and bumped into, IMO, the east side of tower 2. The same plane cannot be in different locations at the same time with the nose facing east in one and north in the other. This case is closed in regards to the official story being anything but bullshit.

***Tsunami*** · Sep 12th, 2011 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by 7forever

2 fake planes 4 seconds before impact

The dive bomb footage was south to north which is (I think) the official flight path. The true flight path was west to east and consistent with the (BALL) ufo being the small plane that many described, including Matt Lauer. A flying saucer circled the tower and bumped into, IMO, the east side of tower 2. The same plane cannot be in different locations at the same time with the nose facing east in one and north in the other. This case is closed in regards to the official story being anything but bullshit.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Gifs/wtc2.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Gifs/wtc1.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/a...fs/wtcorb2.jpg

It looks like the plane was turning in the first two pics.

***Vuall*** · Sep 12th, 2011 4:46 PM

Ok so come on then, if they were fake planes, what was the fate of the real planes?

**7forever** · Sep 12th, 2011 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Vuall

Ok so come on then, if they were fake planes, what was the fate of the real planes?

I don't know but the flight paths are one way to prove tv fakery.

**7forever** · Sep 12th, 2011 11:27 PM

The planes are facing different directions and the angles are only slightly different, not enough to change the impossible. The orb caused the explosion in the live footage with nothing that can debunk that visual fact, that is supported by witnesses saying small plane and one guy laughing at whatever it was, a ufo.

The dive bomb shows it going south to north exactly. The other side is east and somewhat south. It might have taken out the southeast corner but that doesn't work because the fake plane had to disappear into the building, hence, south to north.

***GamerGal*** · Sep 13th, 2011 12:02 AM

***James Random*** · Sep 13th, 2011 6:41 AM

I think we can assume that planes did fly into the towers. But the nature of who was on the plane and why they flew it into the Twin Towers will forever remain a mystery, really.

Building 7 is the most conclusive proof we have that something was entirely amiss, as any demolitions expert will tell you that you simply can't plan and affect a demolition in two hours without throwing safety to property and life entirely out of the window. It's just impossible.

***Vuall*** · Sep 13th, 2011 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by James Random

I think we can assume that planes did fly into the towers. But the nature of who was on the plane and why they flew it into the Twin Towers will forever remain a mystery, really.

Building 7 is the most conclusive proof we have that something was entirely amiss, as any demolitions expert will tell you that you simply can't plan and affect a demolition in two hours without throwing safety to property and life entirely out of the window. It's just impossible.

The only thing building 7 is the conclusive proof for, is that in spite of a sound explanation, and a foregone conclusion that a building designed to withstand just 4 hours of uncontrolled fire was going to collapse after 7 hours fire, some people would rather make up some fantasy to blame their government for.

**Fut004** · Sep 13th, 2011 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by Vuall

The only thing building 7 is the conclusive proof for, is that in spite of a sound explanation, and a foregone conclusion that a building designed to withstand just 4 hours of uncontrolled fire was going to collapse after 7 hours fire, some people would rather make up some fantasy to blame their government for.

Show us one other steel frame building that has ever completely collapsed due to a regular building fire. Then show us one other steel frame building that has collapsed entirely into it's own footprint, without somebody planning and rigging it up to do so before hand. These things just don't happen.

Also, visit the other thread - where we're discussing building 7, and take a look at the video I posted. You know, the one that kind of shows little explosions happening on every single floor right before the building completely collapses "due to a fire" on like the 12th floor or something.