Animals to Heaven?

**Zach** · Oct 3rd, 2004 11:43 AM

Ok, 2 questions?

1.) Do you think that animals go to heaven?

2.) Do you think that they go to the same heaven as us or do they go to another heaven(like a special one for them and not us)?

I believe that they go to a heaven too. I was told taht they go to a seperate heaven but i think all of us (people and animals) go to the same one.

What do you guys think?

***dutchie*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 12:20 PM

I don't believe in the existence of a heaven.

Where do mosquitos go, when you hit them to a pulp?!? Or bacteriae, aren't they a life form?! (is bacteriae heaven a 4 weeks old apple pie?!?)

***Red Shift*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 1:47 PM

if everything goes to the same heaven aliens will be there too

i think heaven is just something invented to stop those people who can't handle nothing after death, people who say they don't beleive in it can handle the end and nothingness after death

**Strife** · Oct 3rd, 2004 5:22 PM

Originally Posted by dutchie

I don't believe in the existence of a heaven.

Where do mosquitos go, when you hit them to a pulp?!? Or bacteriae, aren't they a life form?! (is bacteriae heaven a 4 weeks old apple pie?!?)

Very similar to what I was about to post.

What about pre born babies? If one were to die in let's say in it's 2nd month in development, will it go to heaven? Or does it need to be a fully grown baby to be considered a human avaliable to go to heaven? Does heaven contain labs?

***Bigsky770*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 5:37 PM

. . .I just don't have all the answers to your questions. Yet. I do believe that one day, we will all *KNOW* the "why" to the way everything must be as it is. At this point in time, I am still searching, and WHEN (or) IF I find the "answers" everyone is looking for, I'll be sure to post them here. (if I am able).

. . .I have this hope within me that one day, I'll be re-united with those I knew and loved, and yes, my dogs and cats too.

That's just "ME" all-over, (heh). . .Joe (Bigsky770)

***Marajadex*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 5:56 PM

I hope so... I really hope that my dog and cats that have passed on are waiting for me.

***Zyztem*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 8:06 PM

If anyone has read Sylvia Brown, she claims that all the pets you've ever had will be waiting for you when you get there. She also says that there are "segregated" heavens for non-humanoid species/aliens.
I believe too, Joe. It would kind of suck after going through all of this that there wasn't anything else after. But then again, if I'm wrong, I won't have the conciousness to realize it! 'Sides, I like sleeping too much, so an eternal nap aint gonna faze me none. But like every other human that has been searching for the answer, there's only one way to find out.

***lotrfan55345*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 8:11 PM

Thats wierd. I never feel a strong sense of freindship when I'm around animals ... I'm not really the "pet" type I guess. If a stray dog came up to the door I'd probably say "bugger off" or something if I was in a bad-ish mode. I dont mean to offend anyone though.

**Strife** · Oct 3rd, 2004 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by Zyztem

If anyone has read Sylvia Brown, she claims that all the pets you've ever had will be waiting for you when you get there. She also says that there are "segregated" heavens for non-humanoid species/aliens.
I believe too, Joe. It would kind of suck after going through all of this that there wasn't anything else after. But then again, if I'm wrong, I won't have the conciousness to realize it! 'Sides, I like sleeping too much, so an eternal nap aint gonna faze me none. But like every other human that has been searching for the answer, there's only one way to find out.

Was it Einstien that had a theory, or once said that energy cannot be created nor destoryed? Maybe there is a chance of an after life since energy (or what keeps us going) cannot be destoryed, but what about the created part? More questions.

***Zyztem*** · Oct 3rd, 2004 8:50 PM

Originally Posted by Strife

Was it Einstien that had a theory, or once said that energy cannot be created nor destoryed? Maybe there is a chance of an after life since energy (or what keeps us going) cannot be destoryed, but what about the created part? More questions.

I don't know who said it, but that's what physisisisisststs say. Both sides of the fence could use that to their advantage though.

The believers can say that the soul (as energy) can't be destroyed and therefor must go somewhere.

The non-believers could say that the energy that can't be destroyed is on the atomic level. As you decay, your energy/atomic mass breaks down into its component levels and heat and such.

I believe that both trains of thought are correct, so I guess you could say that there are three sides of the fence.

**Zach** · Oct 4th, 2004 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by Red Shift

if everything goes to the same heaven aliens will be there too

i think heaven is just something invented to stop those people who can't handle nothing after death, people who say they don't beleive in it can handle the end and nothingness after death

Good point, didnt think about those...

But also, whos to say that if there is a heaven that we go to, that we will be in our current form of human, or mosquito, or alien...

***Red Shift*** · Oct 4th, 2004 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by Zach

But also, whos to say that if there is a heaven that we go to, that we will be in our current form of human, or mosquito, or alien...

Good point, perhaps our souls just float around in heaven, i never thought of that, nice one

**Zach** · Oct 4th, 2004 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by Red Shift

Good point, perhaps our souls just float around in heaven, i never thought of that, nice one

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**Juliëtte** · Oct 5th, 2004 3:43 PM

Hello everyone ,

yes , animals will live when they have left their bodies,

and yes , we will also live after we have left our bodies ...infact we never stopped living , we were alive before we entered this body .

I never went to church , never was part off any religion ( and never will be)
I don't believe ....I KNOW , I know that all of you will also know some day ,
I know that my knowing doesn't mean anything if you don't know what i know,
but I 'll give you something very true where you can think about , perhaps it's difficult for you to accept , but nevertheless ..it is the TRUTH

We are God ...

and it doesn't matter if you believe this or not ; your believe or disbelieve doesn't change the truth ...the only real thing that matters is the love you have inside you,
you see , god and love are one...and god and love always were and always will be.

Groetjes Juliëtte

***stewey*** · Oct 6th, 2004 9:44 AM

If humans go to heaven, you bet that animals and insects do too.

I believe in God, and I believe in heaven and I believe every living creature goes to heaven. I do not believe in hell though.

***lazserus*** · Oct 6th, 2004 1:11 PM

Was it Einstien that had a theory, or once said that energy cannot be created nor destoryed? Maybe there is a chance of an after life since energy (or what keeps us going) cannot be destoryed, but what about the created part? More questions.

It wasn't Einstein, but it's the first law of thermodynamics. Energy can not be created nor destroyed. Thus, you are recycled on the atomic level until the proton decays.

I do not believe in hell though.

How convenient.

***stewey*** · Oct 6th, 2004 3:25 PM

Well, I do not see how a God that loves us would send us to hell. He is all knowing, so he knows what choices we will make, so why would he create someone just to send them to hell eventually? Sounds pretty mean to me.

***lazserus*** · Oct 6th, 2004 3:30 PM

Read the Old Testament. God wasn't such a nice person then.

**Strife** · Oct 6th, 2004 3:59 PM

If god is real and he TRULY loves his creations including every single living thing on this planet and elsewhere, by no means do I see it that he would have a hell avaliable for punishment. With his infinite loving heart, forgiveness should be a breeze.

Read the Old Testament. God wasn't such a nice person then.

Lazerus, say if there is a God and he is the supreme being of the universe and that he is all love. We as humans have freewill as mentioned in the bible, what if that freewill had been abused and used against the same scriptures that created the bible from the beginning? What if those who had the first original copy, the collection of all the writings in their hands knew of God well and took advantage over him by changing the original words into their own liking to control the people? Insight fear in them. Create false areas here and there that would seem perfect not to refute. (yeah, this should belong under conspiracies)

**Zach** · Oct 6th, 2004 5:39 PM

Why do so many people use a bible as a history book? It really is a bunch of stories that we are supposed to find meaning in to prevent us from sinning and to teach us lessons(morals) in life. Yes, some things in the bible did happen(based on facts and faith) but some of the stories are there to make a point. Do you really believe that Jonah was swallowed by a whale and brought to another country?