Your opinion on Alex Jones and Infowars.com

**hobobone** · Oct 20th, 2011 10:25 AM

I'm interested in what everyone's opinion is on Alex Jones and Infowars.com. Ive watched almost every one of Alex Jones videos. His opinions on the Federal Reserve seem spot on to me..Ive also done some fact checking and a lot of what this man says is factual.

At times Jones gets a little theatrical, but that may be needed to get the American public's attention...

I just want your opinion and it doesnt matter if you disagree..If you do thats fine..not looking to start an argument...

Here is a link to what he has to say about Fast and Furious, it backs my long time held suspicions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=R5ToP3oks8U

For those of you unfamiliar with Infowars.com here is a link to the page

http://www.infowars.com/

***pico*** · Oct 20th, 2011 10:34 AM

I tend to think he is a sensationalist, but yes, it is true much of his info he discusses is dead on factual. To me, he is much like Michael Moore, except Jones' info is not as opinionated as Moore's.

**DaKat** · Oct 20th, 2011 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by hobobone

I'm interested in what everyone's opinion is on Alex Jones and Infowars.com.

He's a simple-minded loud-mouthed fear-mongering asshole.

**hobobone** · Oct 20th, 2011 4:00 PM

Ok...Your entitled to your opinion DaKat.. If thats the way you feel then thats fine.. Many political pundits are loud mouthed asses...I can somewhat understand how you might perceive his message as a message of fear though..maybe we should fear some things though..I cant label him as simple minded though..He has a fairly good understanding of government..

Thank you also for your opinion Pico...I find that he is really dedicated to digging up government dirt and really pays attention to the every move our government makes.. Like all humans he is not perfect..The sensationalism is a bit over the top at times..

Come on People, feel free to state your opinion...Dont be bashful now!

**lycanox** · Oct 20th, 2011 4:02 PM

He is crap.

During the BP disaster he was pretty much claiming that BP drilled in a volcano. Because the oil looked a bit red.
And it is not like everyone in the south of the US is currently death due to the burning tsunamis or lethal smog he predicted.

If he is spot on to something. I am willing to bet he stole it somewhere else from people that do have a bit more common sense.
And you would be better of getting it from the original source.

**hobobone** · Oct 20th, 2011 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by lycanox

He is crap.

During the BP disaster he was pretty much claiming that BP drilled in a volcano. Because the oil looked a bit red.
And it is not like everyone in the south of the US is currently death due to the burning tsunamis or lethal smog he predicted.

If he is spot on to something. I am willing to bet he stole it somewhere else from people that do have a bit more common sense.
And you would be better of getting it from the original source.

I will make a point of looking into his coverage of the BP disaster..Good point made... Im sure he gets info from other sources..He even admits and states this..He is surrounded by people with who also have a fairly good understanding of the government. Once again though, his knowledge of the inner workings of the federal reserve are impressive..But your opinion is duly noted and thanks..

***Anarch*** · Oct 20th, 2011 4:41 PM

The reason Aj is always accusing everyone else of being cointelpro IS because HE is counter intelligence. He talks a good line and speaks on this and that but when it goes to far he ignores certain items and shuns and discredits anyone that would speak on it.

He makes those that would be "disdents" look like fools.

Here lets look at a recent example here in Texas.

Our state legislature was considering some new laws that would of out lawed person to person gun sales... Also they were considering out lawing gun show conventions.

Several groups organized to protest this idea. At one rally Alex Jones was invited to speak with them. He was even offered First speaking position ...unless he wanted to be the last speaker. They were totally willing to differ to him... BUT AJ declined saying it was not gonna be worth his time to cover as he had some bigger stories that he needed to attend to.

This is what REALLY HAPPENED

The videos aren't long but I do have a few here..

This is where is starts

+ YouTube Video

Then here is a bit later

+ YouTube Video

And this is much later ... When confronted HE insults his former fans Tells them to get their cameras out of his face because he has a right to free speech...which apparently he would deny of them.

+ YouTube Video

This is one instance.

Other things to look up online include "the parking lot incident" , "The new years eve broadcast" , "The betrayal at trinidad" , "The betrayal of Jack Blood" and on and on the list goes.

AJ uses people, betrays people, and releases the news he is supposed to.. The only end to his fear mongering is to be too scared to do anything. He gives you the worst possible news and offers no solutions.

William "Bill" Cooper had him pegged right.

I will say this too. When I do go to Austin I will listen to his show sometimes (He is on local radio stations there) but I take him with a grain of salt and remember him for the scorpion he is.

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by DaKat

He's a simple-minded loud-mouthed fear-mongering asshole.

Yes he can be theatrical...his alter ego is Rush Limbaugh. Their delivery and presentations are similar but on opposite ends of the spectrum.

And Alex Jones has been the voice of conspiracy, both he and Michael Moore has been villified for years as CONSPIRACY NUTS, however, they BOTH have speaking, or calling attention to covert operations the govt has been conducting for years and in most cases they are spot on.

BOTH MOORE and JONES HAVE GOOD INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY.

**lycanox** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:02 PM

Ussually his style goes something like this.

Something happens.
Alex Blames some obscure group of it so fast its completely unfeasibly that he could have gotten that information that fast.
Alex makes some predictions like Martial law.
Nothing happens and Alex diverts attention to a different subject.

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by hobobone

Ok...Your entitled to your opinion DaKat.. If thats the way you feel then thats fine.. Many political pundits are loud mouthed asses...I can somewhat understand how you might perceive his message as a message of fear though..maybe we should fear some things though..I cant label him as simple minded though..He has a fairly good understanding of government..

Thank you also for your opinion Pico...I find that he is really dedicated to digging up government dirt and really pays attention to the every move our government makes.. Like all humans he is not perfect..The sensationalism is a bit over the top at times..

Come on People, feel free to state your opinion...Dont be bashful now!

Alex Jones has often been right on the money. His alter ego regarding delivery, presentation and theatrics is Rush Limbaugh but they obviously, are on opposite ends of the spectrum politically. And as far as I know, neither Jones nor Moore do drugs. :)

Both Jones and Moore have been labeled as CONSPIRACY NUTS, however, I see them as whistle blowers, passionate about what they do and as true Americans. They are both extremely outspoken as to covert govt operations and perform a great public service. The thing is in the past most of what they try to convey is sooo outrageous its really difficult to belive at first until it all starts to unfold and in many cases they have been spot on.

So yea, we should be AFRAID. The govt is comprised of people who do shit because they can. And right now, the govt can and does some really nasty shit. Jones and Moore are telling people to wake up!!

**DaKat** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:07 PM

Originally Posted by hobobone

I can somewhat understand how you might perceive his message as a message of fear though..maybe we should fear some things though

His ONLY message is fear! Paranoid, incessant fear. EVERYONE except him is out to get you, ESPECIALLY the government, from the LOWEST level to the President himself. And they always HAVE been!!

How could anyone NOT see that as fear-mongering??

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by DaKat

His ONLY message is fear! Paranoid, incessant fear. EVERYONE except him is out to get you, ESPECIALLY the government, from the LOWEST level to the President himself. And they always HAVE been!!

How could anyone NOT see that as fear-mongering??

You would suggest / recommend what? Passive, not too upsetting sugar coated news from CNN, Fox or Yahoo?

Ya know, this is the mans "job" as a journalist. He's free lance and not accountable to corporate talking head management of major networks. His job is the acquisition of Information that most people dont have the time to accumulate let alone read on a daily basis. There are those who don't bother at all to know whats going on in this country at all, let alone the world because they don't have the time, they are complacent or because its just all to overwhelming to assimilate due to it being so shocking its almost unbelievable. Until, of course, what's being told comes true but by then its too late to stir the pot.

I suppose, if I knew what he knew, I might need tranqualizers.

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:27 PM

Originally Posted by lycanox

Ussually his style goes something like this.

Something happens.
Alex makes some predictions like Martial law.
.

Untathomable to you? Martial law - out of style?

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anarch

AJ uses people, betrays people, and releases the news he is supposed to.. The only end to his fear mongering is to be too scared to do anything. He gives you the worst possible news and offers no solutions.

Just curious. Are the people supposedly in the know and "in charge" providng 'solutions"? I'd say, OWS wouldnt have gotten past the first week were that the case. Id also say, the people telling us not to worry are the people who say they DO HAVE THE SOULUTIOns. Yes, We should remain calm, level headed, politically correct, STFU and go back quietly to our homes. Help is on the way, all will be well and by golly, hunky dory after the NEXT election of either set of the same ole
players

**hobobone** · Oct 20th, 2011 6:04 PM

Ok ..Ill start off here with, Thank You Anarch for those videos..Jones handled that very poorly..Thats not the way i would have handled that..I would have merged with the other protesters and helped represent them as a whole..

But at the same time, I have to agree with Lillith...Has Jones in fact done this so long that he is loosing touch with reality?.. The stress of what he may know and his ability to watch every move the government has made could be taking its toll on him..

Also once again, His knowledge of how the federal reserve was created and his points on how economy's are manipulated by the fed are factual and powerful..

He has been spot on on a variety of issues...Yes others have the same info, however they dont choose to share it..

At times ive wondered if he is in fact trying to awaken the American public..Or is he just as concerned with padding his own wallet?....It would be nice to know how profitable he has become..

Still all this being said, if he awakens the American public to government corruption then at least he isnt covering up corruption...And we cant shoot the messenger or whistle blower.. We need whistle blowers to keep our government in line...without them the government will run right over us...

***Tired Old Man*** · Oct 20th, 2011 6:36 PM

I have his web site booked marked but almost never go there. Kind of boring.

***Anarch*** · Oct 20th, 2011 7:17 PM

Originally Posted by hobobone

Ok ..Ill start off here with, Thank You Anarch for those videos..Jones handled that very poorly..Thats not the way i would have handled that..I would have merged with the other protesters and helped represent them as a whole..

But at the same time, I have to agree with Lillith...Has Jones in fact done this so long that he is loosing touch with reality?..

If that protest was the only questionable event... or maybe the only other questionable event... But it aint. It is a pattern of his.

Those terms I gave you earlier The betrayal at trinidad ... the betrayal of jack blood... the parking lot incident...The charlie sheen letter to the president hoax....

Then their is how he handles things like Ed and elain brown or this current OWS thing....

Bill Cooper man... Bill Cooper nailed AJ... After the assassination of Bill Cooper AJ has villified him...

Yes AJ puts some info out there... he helps wake some fuckers up... but at the end of the day, a snake is still a snake. And not to be trusted.... I might listen to him on occasion but I do so with the understanding that he is COintelpro...thats why he constantly accuses everyone else of it...

If you do like AJ but not these revelations about him I would encourage you to check out Jack Blood

http://deadlinelive.info/

**hobobone** · Oct 20th, 2011 9:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anarch

If that protest was the only questionable event... or maybe the only other questionable event... But it aint. It is a pattern of his.

Those terms I gave you earlier The betrayal at trinidad ... the betrayal of jack blood... the parking lot incident...The charlie sheen letter to the president hoax....

Then their is how he handles things like Ed and elain brown or this current OWS thing....

Bill Cooper man... Bill Cooper nailed AJ... After the assassination of Bill Cooper AJ has villified him...

Yes AJ puts some info out there... he helps wake some fuckers up... but at the end of the day, a snake is still a snake. And not to be trusted.... I might listen to him on occasion but I do so with the understanding that he is COintelpro...thats why he constantly accuses everyone else of it...

If you do like AJ but not these revelations about him I would encourage you to check out Jack Blood

http://deadlinelive.info/

Thanks for the info Anarch....Im checking out Deadline now...Uhm i dont really like Jones the man as much as i like the info he pays attention to and digs up... After looking into the William Cooper assassination im a lot clearer on Jones motives. So while he is right about some things, he uses fear to control his audience...

So what you are saying then is that Jones could be playing both sides of the of the info war?...Like a double agent?..Or spreading disinformation to induce panic?.. He uses bytes of very spot on info, to move his agenda forward..

At the same time, How do we know William Cooper was on the up?..I see a number of people like Jones Spreading all types of info almost like disinformation..

Do you think Jones is getting Info directly from the Elites and then highjacking said info for his own agenda?...Or is he in fact a direct Agent of the Government?....But why would the government tell Jones to enlighten us on the Corrupt private entity know as the federal reserve?..

Thank You EVERYONE for your opinions..While i for sure have had some suspicion about Alex Jones...This has been very insightful..

***Lillith*** · Oct 20th, 2011 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by hobobone

At the same time, How do we know William Cooper was on the up?..I see a number of people like Jones Spreading all types of info almost like disinformation..

Do you think Jones is getting Info directly from the Elites and then highjacking said info for his own agenda?...Or is he in fact a direct Agent of the Government?....But why would the government tell Jones to enlighten us on the Corrupt private entity know as the federal reserve?..

Thank You EVERYONE for your opinions..While i for sure have had some suspicion about Alex Jones...This has been very insightful..

To someone who knows about Jones for years (and anyone else like him acting as a news pipeline) one must evaluate and discern for themselves what they think of the information they are being given and compare it to other sources as a benchmark...just as they would any other story they think to be of importance.

Do people who listen to Rush believe EVERYTHING that comes out of his mouth? Maybe his die hard fans do w/o question or reservation. These types of guys are the extreme sensationalists. I've heard that guy twist and turn and do an about face on many occassions, like a leaf on a tree in a tornado. Personally, i think Moore far more altrustic.

Me thinks I will go back to George over at Coast to Coast for the real scoop. :)

BTW, what ever he may or may not truly be I am glad he exists, rants, raves and shouts from the rooftops. How many others we got like him besides Moore and Geraldo.

***Anarch*** · Oct 20th, 2011 10:50 PM

So what you are saying then is that Jones could be playing both sides of the of the info war?

Only if you think he is on the peoples side in some way.

Meh... Just don't ever call him up and ask him about Trinidad... Hell hang up on you...

***Reef Badlaw*** · Oct 21st, 2011 5:10 AM

Originally Posted by lycanox

Ussually his style goes something like this.

Something happens.
Alex Blames some obscure group of it so fast its completely unfeasibly that he could have gotten that information that fast.
Alex makes some predictions like Martial law.
Nothing happens and Alex diverts attention to a different subject.

I was going-to say the same thing. He's like Sorcha Faal. They can be somewhat fascinating online, but simplistically hollow in real-world conversations.

***Bob*** · Oct 21st, 2011 6:19 PM

At best Alex Jones is right about many of the subjects he is discussing, specifically the economic collapse of 2008, the bizzare circumstances of the 9-11 attacks, the Iraq war, and the behavior of government officials. I believe he under extreme pressure from the PTB and has had to adjust his public presence in order to prevent violence. More than one public official and government employee have met untimely ends. He looks scared to me, like a man fearing for his life. Taking on these larger than life forces can be dangerous. I used to believe that the world was divided into 2 groups, the sane and the crazy. I have to admit that the "Crazy" people have been right about almost everything. The economic collaspe, world wide protest against governments, nuclear war between Israel and Iran( the stuxnet virus was an attack on irans nuclear facility...a nuclear war of sorts.) Between the web bot and the bible code (2007 it predicted a comet to pass close to earth, that it would be crushed...elenin) the crazy people like Alex Jones and the others have a better tract record than the "analysts" on CNN, FOX, and the New York Times. Alex Jones was the first one to bring up the franken food issue and that has become far worse that even he was saying. It's unbelievable and yet, here I am defending the guy. So I say cut him some slack.

***Bob*** · Oct 21st, 2011 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by Lillith

To someone who knows about Jones for years (and anyone else like him acting as a news pipeline) one must evaluate and discern for themselves what they think of the information they are being given and compare it to other sources as a benchmark...just as they would any other story they think to be of importance.

Do people who listen to Rush believe EVERYTHING that comes out of his mouth? Maybe his die hard fans do w/o question or reservation. These types of guys are the extreme sensationalists. I've heard that guy twist and turn and do an about face on many occassions, like a leaf on a tree in a tornado. Personally, i think Moore far more altrustic.

Me thinks I will go back to George over at Coast to Coast for the real scoop. :)

BTW, what ever he may or may not truly be I am glad he exists, rants, raves and shouts from the rooftops. How many others we got like him besides Moore and Geraldo.

I too, like George at coast to coast, he interviews people who would otherwise not have an avenue to opine. I usually pass on the Jesus is coming back to change the tax code stuff, but his shows on aliens, pole shifts, and earth changes are usually very good. He CAN be a bit of an ass kisser, but that's radio for you. His interviews with David Wilcox are especially fascinating. Check them out on you tube if you havent heard them.
Also, I forgive you for missing my birthday, (a very small slight I agree...)

**hobobone** · Oct 21st, 2011 7:08 PM

In my case im not writing off Jones entirely..I still think some of his info has been spot on and it cross references with other lesser known people..

However in Jones case, I see that there could be other motives for his agenda other than helping the American public.. But then today it seems everyone has a hidden agenda..There are very few Purists interested in really providing the American public with unbiased info..

There are things to be learned from Jones..and in my case i learn from a wide variety of people and info..