The CLERGY PROJECT....

[palerider]

The law of NEWLIFE, does not invalidate the Gospel, it invalidates the relationship of "faith", the relationship that has produced the gospel. The law of NEWLIFE, does not serve as a "moral authority", in this sense it is demonstrated. By sterilization the relationship within mankind that challenges this process, and by creating an open book for the people who are already written in, and will be written in, by removing the obstical of sin and death. Those of you who are where you should be, have nothing to worry about when the rapture begins. Those of you who die before hand as a result of /suicide/natural causes, have the possibility of being resurrected, those of you who die by murder according to the principalities that are already sealed, will be resurrected.................I prefer to keep the relationship where it should be, held high, and this means dismissing sin and death as an obsticale to the process, but not as a contradiction to the relationship of "faith", this being the end of time, and the expectation and example of sin, being absolute, and it will be profuse, this is essentially guaranteed, as a result of this process, and this is taken into consideration........................(some of you will prefer to die, and create situations to this extent, those of you who decided to create contradictions with this truth, your lives will be weighed in the balance, the law is for you and the benefit of man, and this behavior is unnecessary)

thanks for the responses

Again full of meaningless rhetoric....this is just a way of justifying the words that are written......meh the qeustions that are more significant lie beyond your fantasy of belief......I'm sorry that I sound hateful.....I love all of my human friends.....but I cannot accept this potemtially dangerous idea and not just for spiritual reasons.....in humanistic terms your are asking for the human experience of hell.....you pre-judge what is to come and that is a huge worry when none of us who are read and transcendant know what will come.....in other words you offer a new edge to an old old problem...but you condone selfishness....my understanding is that you cannot choose but be judged.

Meh...on a humanistic term this is pure waffle.....we are already making choices in what direction our ending will take. We know that one day the earth will end, we also know that there is a reasonable probability that humanity may well end....how we face that end is entirely a human affair as God remains absent....perhaps a new legacy will begin and in that new path God may well choose to be present.....or there again continue to be absent......my choice will be always to love my neighbour....no matter as to their scares or social life......I give altruism...you give selfishness....

[LucySmith]

the truth is....
for 2000yrs the CRIME OF THE CHURCH SYSTEM has failed to reproduce any person in the IMAGE OF CHRIST - it is up to you - to prove the church system is not a counterfeit system that lies and robs the pews of the truth.

The truth= has to be personally sort and when it is found PEOPLE ARE CONVERTED progressively changed into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Religious People are getting rather tired of being duped - THE AWAKENING of the pews IS ESSENTIAL for their salvation [ freedom and liberty from their broken hearts and sickness and death]
now satan's angels of light can chomp on their rhetoric all day - but - TRUTH IS AND TRUTH WINS.

http://www.sonplace.com/sonplacing/sp_chp16a.htm

Section Title
1.

Ancient Adversaries

2.

The Coming of Christianity

3.

The Catholic Church

4.

The Rise of Dissension

5.

The Reformation

6.

The Rise of Denominationalism

7.

Like Mother, Like Daughter

8.

The Arrival of Modern Christianity

9.

The Doctrines of Modern Christianity

10.

The Clergy of Modern Christianity

11.

The Structure of Modern Christianity

12.

The True Church

http://www.sonplace.com/sonplacing/sp_chp16a.htm

[palerider]

Meh...you speak of truth as if you were so magnificantly given transcendance.......to what end does the 'truth' serve?? I seek truth in all of the things I do and fail each time.....are there a number of truths or just one truth.....and if you reached such truths could you handle the utimate truth....could your lack of purity give you the freedom to see the truth?

Truth is not the heavenly gift you think it is...truth is a burden and a burden with which you need strong shoulders to bare.....truth is not just fruit but also the unpleasant thorny swallow after initial acceptance.....it is not the truth....but it is through the truth that we find strength as human beings.....truth as in 'delights of' is an absolute fallacy....

[nephilim]

Again full of meaningless rhetoric....this is just a way of justifying the words that are written......meh the qeustions that are more significant lie beyond your fantasy of belief......I'm sorry that I sound hateful.....I love all of my human friends.....but I cannot accept this potemtially dangerous idea and not just for spiritual reasons.....in humanistic terms your are asking for the human experience of hell.....you pre-judge what is to come and that is a huge worry when none of us who are read and transcendant know what will come.....in other words you offer a new edge to an old old problem...but you condone selfishness....my understanding is that you cannot choose but be judged.

Meh...on a humanistic term this is pure waffle.....we are already making choices in what direction our ending will take. We know that one day the earth will end, we also know that there is a reasonable probability that humanity may well end....how we face that end is entirely a human affair as God remains absent....perhaps a new legacy will begin and in that new path God may well choose to be present.....or there again continue to be absent......my choice will be always to love my neighbour....no matter as to their scares or social life......I give altruism...you give selfishness....

The law of NEWLIFE is an expression of Love for the human race. It is based on a relationship that has afforded mankind the process of change to this extent, and it is based on this process of change, the portion of mankind presenting a threat to mankind based on this relationship of change, is being removed from man. It is also, a logical conclusion that a devout presence of this relationship will stir this conflict with mankind representative of this relationship. As a matter of Love, and not hate or malice, towards a peaceful and painless conclusion the universe is providing, I have made this suggestions previously as mitigation points:

1. Removal of the Ability to Drive Vehicles
2. Removal from Positions of the Public Trust
3. Just compensation, as a mechanism to further removal the potential threat

Lethal force, towards the actions of the universe is also a suggestion, although this is only a stop-gap measure, for the process of the universe. From now until around the beginning of virgo near the equinox, we must keep watch as best we can understand, the conflict that identifies with the blacksun, is scheduled to happen before this time. This advise and the law of NEWLIFE, is based on love for man, as an introduction to a new state of being, and as a way of removing the precipitation of the human obstacle synonymous to this earth, and state of being, in relation to the process of change for man, called "faith", this universe.


"You know that one day the earth will end". This is not a good enough answer for mankind, the answer that demonstrates loves is not a clueless approach to 2012, it is the understanding that the universe loves mankind enough to give a law.

the truth is....
for 2000yrs the CRIME OF THE CHURCH SYSTEM has failed to reproduce any person in the IMAGE OF CHRIST - it is up to you - to prove the church system is not a counterfeit system that lies and robs the pews of the truth.

The truth= has to be personally sort and when it is found PEOPLE ARE CONVERTED progressively changed into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Religious People are getting rather tired of being duped - THE AWAKENING of the pews IS ESSENTIAL for their salvation [ freedom and liberty from their broken hearts and sickness and death]
now satan's angels of light can chomp on their rhetoric all day - but - TRUTH IS AND TRUTH WINS.

http://www.sonplace.com/sonplacing/sp_chp16a.htm

The Gospel, and consequently the Church, represents the end of a state of being that leads to destruction. The Truth and fact of 2012 is, our lives, this earth, and universe, is a state that will lead to destruction if it is not taken from mankind. The Truth is the reconciliation of accepting this change, and migrating to this extent, are factors of accepting, the fundamental way in which we have come to be, this very nature will change.

This change is the product of the Universe, and as a result the law of NEWLIFE is given to man. Now the law of the nations, the law of the church, or the law of another gospel. The law of the gospel, requires the reconciliation of its removal by another law at the end of time, and this is the little book.

Thanks for the Responses

[palerider]

Sorry it won't work.....your proposals (ahem badly written and in parts meaningless) offer nothing to the reality of ahem 'THE TRUTH' that I currently live.

Just in case your are blessed with floating around in full transcendance....I can't see you in my bit.....perhaps your down there in C class??...oops....that was naughty but nice

[Lillith]

Sorry it won't work.....your proposals (ahem badly written and in parts meaningless) offer nothing to the reality of ahem 'THE TRUTH' that I currently live.

Just in case your are blessed with floating around in full transcendance....I can't see you in my bit.....perhaps your down there in C class??...oops....that was naughty but nice

Hey palerider; Hope all is well with you.

Now, ....There are mods who suggest there is entertainment value in some threads even when people disagree or at extreme odds. Sooooooooooooooooo.....

Lucy, meet nephilim.

nephilim, meet Lucy.


One just has to wonder which of the two will prevail as they rant meaningless circles around each other, as in outlasting each other with their pressing TRUTHS.......

and attitudes are similar when it comes to posting their TRUTHS...they are like relentless pit bulls with their teeth in a side of beef...

but to nephilims credit, though he may be an outward bigot and racist towards people of color, he's never insulting in his answers to posters. Odd isnit it?

Lucy is just down right gnasty and hates everyone! lol

[LucySmith]

Lillith.........

it is not hate to give out the truth of the Gospel that abolishes death and defeats the devil.
what is wrong with that?
That is the truth.

What is so bad about telling others [who may not know] how to break out from their heart-breaking tragic sad lives and disapointments and sickness combined with prayers that dont always work?

The speaking out of the Gospel is the mission of a disciple of the Saviour.
now that again is the truth.


What is so bad about living in DIVINE UNLIMITED power like Jesus did?
ummm
What is so wonderfull about famine and starving and homelessness and needs not met?
What IS SO WONDERFULL about war and strife and sorrow and poverty?

Why is death and the devil so admired by yourself and traveller and posters here?
death lovers are anti THE GOSPEL.

Have youforgotten THE GOSPEL shall reproduce LIFE BEARERS AND LIGHT Wearers.
Math 17 - v 1-2-3- proves my point.
was Jesus a show off?
or
was Jesus showing how to BE AS HE IS here and today.

Why do you make death your friend, when the NT promises its divine alternative of a new life, a new covenant, a new high priest, new wineskin by walking in a new way called THE TRUTH.

so lillith.....
WHAT IS WRONG LEARNING HOW TO PROGRESSIVELY WALKING IN THE DIVINE REALM here and today in the same way and style as the Saviour - that is the true learning of His believing disciples?

THAT IS WHY HE CAME - TO ALTER THE STATUS QUO.

How come this divine way into the truth is soooooooooooooooooooo awefull and not recommended at all.

What is the attraction to evil and vanity and its ramifications?

It is not hate to find out the church system and all religions of man is a counterfeit based upon lies and 1/2 truth.
It is enlightenment that gives some HOPE SO BELIEVERS can move forewards and away from religious lies and evil that bind us all up as slaves to the devil.
after all.....
satan is an attractive mentor to all humans ofcourse this is the unholy legacy of mother Eve and her swing away from the truth and paradise into unhappiness and lack and all other undesireable trends of destruction.
do you love such a tragic choice Lillith?


It is not hate to relay ''how to defeat the devil'' by learning how to live out our life IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST - AS A LIFE SPIRIT.

LILLITH U R SO BLINDED - - your spiritual inner man is the real you not the poor adamic persona you speak out from.

So what IS soooooooooooo awefull to return TO SPIRITUAL LIFE as Jesus learnt here.
HE WENT THRU THE WHOLE SPIRITUAL UNIVERSITY AND EDUCATION and said ''come into Me and a learn of Me''.
He is able to teach people.
THE church does not.
yes, most pews are sincere but NO they are wrong for they die IN sin and never learn how to live above


what is soooooo shccking about that - TO BE RETRAINED UP out from sin and death and into unlimited true lfe

ummm
explain your objection to paradise, health wealth and all holy unlimited powers of eternal life here and how as per Ps 23.
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Jesus pronounced a woe [that is a '''curse'''] 7 times upon a group of deceived religious rulers who had turned His laws into man made rules and now the church system has done the same thing producing man's empires, robbery and the love of money.

Religious MAN RULES by his theories with a dash of NT truth - THAT FAILS TO REPRODUCE the image of Christ in the pews.
The misrepresentation has gone on from the ancient past so now the pews consider these lies as the truth.
Its called GRADUALISM and creeps into a system and is ''established'' among the perishing pews.

now if you wish to remain in vanity and destruction and death lillith - that is your business, but dont try to mock and derail someone who loves LIFE, THE MISSION OF THE SAVIOUR, HIS KINGDOM AND HIS WAY THAT LEADS ALL BELIEVERS back to their former home and makes them His heirs of SALVATION.

[Lillith]

[QUOTE=LucySmith;496069]Lillith.........

it is not hate to give out the truth of the Gospel that abolishes death and defeats the devil.
what is wrong with that?

That is the truth.

Truth starts with a premise that provides evidence, validity, even a few shreds of plausibility would suffice as a place to start.

So lets start with one shred of plausibility. Proof of living beings that back up your religious rants about human immortality.

NAMES PLEASE. OF ALL THOSE who are still alive since the birth of Jesus and the Gospel you say, he taught about immortality of the flesh. The people who have not died. The medical and biological miracles and wonders of mankind.

Let me see, this (these if you can name more than one) human would be a biological anomaly consdidering that they would chronologically be at least 2 thousand years old. These living immortals.

Lets start there. If you don't have a few names, a few living bodies to point too answering the rest of your questions would be like chasing a straw man with a book of matches.

So Put up or shut up. Otherwise, you are posting religious rhetorical gibberish jabberwocky and offing it as your particular and personal brand of universal truth - that you erroneously believe should be applicable to everyone.

And yes, i acknowledge that you say you love your Savior Jesus. I have no doubt that you probably do. But So do the Chruch pewers you detest so much. Who are YOU to tell them they dont or that they are being fooled and conned.

What you dont want to see and refuse to acknowledge is that your particular brand of everlasting life immortal snake oil, which only YOU know the secret ingreedients - isn't really any different from theirs.

You may rant about my name, Trav and his curiosity and study of demons, palerider being a death horseman, etc...

But lady? dont you ever look in the mirror at yourself? Its you who is the friend of the grim reaper or devil as you call it, so obsessed and terrified death are you. Ha, your obesession and the energy you put into prostelizing about it just might scare it away. But not for long.

Because here IS a truth YOU dont want to hear. Your biological organic self is going to decompose and die.

[LucySmith]

ummm. fair question.
the Mystery.
who understands this great Mystery?

why not seek the truth for yourself lilith and then you will believe it - if i tell you will not believe it. I will give u a hint Lazarus was 1.
the immortal company.
---perhaps u could begin here------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.wequanta.com/crystal-rive...l_river_08.pdf

[Lillith]

ummm. fair question.
the Mystery.
who understands this great Mystery?

why not seek the truth for yourself lilith and then you will believe it - if i tell you will not believe it. I will give u a hint Lazarus was 1.
the immortal company.
---perhaps u could begin here------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.wequanta.com/crystal-rive...l_river_08.pdf

And this is your proof of TRUTH?

wequanta.com and MILA the miracle seed? People using the gospel and jesus to peddle vitamins and nutritional supplements?

http://www.wequanta.com/alternative-...acle-seed.html

700% more Omega 3 than salmon
500% more Calcium than milk
200% more Iron than spinach
100% more Potassium than bananas
1400% more Magnesium than broccoli
100% more Fiber than bran flakes
500% more Protein than kidney beans
300% more Selenium than flax seed
800% more Phosphorus than whole milk
Plus, more Antioxidants than blueberries



Lucy, when push comes to shove, the rubber hits the road, when it comes down to put up or shut up, you are nothing but a barrel of bullshet.

[LucySmith]

well i dont know about flax and seed Lilith.

but i do know how to live out from my former adamic mind and destruction and into eternal Life by the Saviour's grace.
I do know how to become alive and not remain as a dead man.
I do know how to put off mortal ... and i do realise few do find eternal life.
yes, i also know it is a hidden mystery and yes i do know unbelief stops divine potential.
so why dont we agree to disagree...
Lazarus is a first fruit of the Ekklesia of immortal saints.
there is a whole group of believers lilith from each generation few are raised up called 'the elect' to be heirs of salvation.

[rubypengeckqlin2]

The gospel is hidden from those who are perishing. only the spiritual fitest survive. Like the olympic game. Spiritual olympics.

[nephilim]

but to nephilims credit, though he may be an outward bigot and racist towards people of color, he's never insulting in his answers to posters. Odd isnit it?

Lucy is just down right gnasty and hates everyone! lol

Lillith.........

it is not hate to give out the truth of the Gospel that abolishes death and defeats the devil.
what is wrong with that?
That is the truth.

What is so bad about telling others [who may not know] how to break out from their heart-breaking tragic sad lives and disapointments and sickness combined with prayers that dont always work?
.................................................. ..............................
Jesus pronounced a woe [that is a '''curse'''] 7 times upon a group of deceived religious rulers who had turned His laws into man made rules and now the church system has done the same thing producing man's empires, robbery and the love of money.

(what the Black Madonna is and represents, and what Mother Mary is and represents)


The Queen of Heaven in the old testament, representative of the "Black Madonna" seen above: (Isis (egypt)), Ishtar (babylonian), Inanna (sumerian) - (they were notable dark or black idols). Represented the removal of the Gospel Program, it represented the sanctioning of the "Church Body", BEFORE, heaven had intended to sanction the Church Body. It was designed to represent the allure of sin, and the promise of death as the greater pleasure as a result of the pleasure of sin.



When Christ was Crucified, the "Church Body" was sanctified, as a representation of the removal of the Gospel Program. And instead of the "Black Madonna" as a representation of man's ascension, the "Mother Mary", as a white figure was adopted, as in this methodogy was no longer sinful. The Church was sanctified to serve as a intermediatary between god and man, where it had not been in the past. (The Catholic Church has been the most faithful in this respect, but there are other churches who are also faithful. Back to the point in case.)
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Sin can be very pleasureable, pleasureable enough to motivate entire continents, races, and civilization to thrive off of proverty, disease, death, and various states of inhumanity. The fact is, this is their reward, they don't live beyond their life times, and when there is a judgement from heaven, this relationship always dies because it is an obstruction, and the judgement plan and process has been progressive to the end of time. There is nothing inhumane about the sterilization of this relationship, it is difficult for anyone to understand the "Criminal Mind", or certain psychotic or ethnic behavior. Without understanding the affinity to sin, as a result of the rejection of the relationship of "faith", based on generation activity, and based on personal preference. This is not something which is valuable, but it is something you must simply understand that it is something that is being removed from mankind, as it has been done repeated through human history.

ummm. fair question.
the Mystery.
who understands this great Mystery?

The great MYSTERY of "faith", is it is the relationship that is being given to mankind at the end of time, as apart of an evolutionary process. And this relationship makes man equal with god. In this universe, the angels that come down, are brought in inequity, and are the equals with man. Nothing being done to mankind, has not been done to the angels in heaven, and it has not been done to god himself, did Jesus not come to die, for your sin (to contribute to the process of ascension).

(the law of newlife is based on irrefutable fact, and the relationship of "faith", and it is the translation of the relationship of "faith", the rest of your questions are the result of your disbelief in what it is that I have to say, and not ignorance, because I have said these things)


Thanks for your Responses

[LucySmith]

Neph.
It does not matter what colour your body suit is - what does matter is how mature you are in christ divine ability.
how changed you are
how incorruptable you are
how faithfull you are to the truth

the outside of the cup is unimportant.
it is the inside that is vital to understand.
the real you needs YOUR PROMPT ATTENTION.
the real you NEEDS TO BECOME AWAKENED TO ITS REAL MISSION.
the real you DOES NOT NEED RELIGION but awakened /quickened to living life.

- from
'unveiling the sons of God''..............Kenneth Wayne Hancock.
The Prophets of Old Inquired about This Granting of Immortality


Peter continues to say that the prophets of old “inquired and searched diligently” for this salvation, this obtaining of immortality.

They spoke and wrote of the great favor that God would bestow upon His elect in these last days
. “The Spirit of Christ which was in them” showed them that Yahweh would come in human form in the future—that this man would hold God fully in His vessel—that He would be called Immanuel, God with us—that He would be the Savior come in a flesh body and would take that body to the tree and sacrifice it to atone for all of our sins.

And that through these sufferings Christ would be glorified.

And that He would thereby open up this immortality, granting the glorification process to those who He had foreordained unto that blessed privilege of being His sons and daughters. And they would then dwell with their Father and rule with Him in an immortal state of existence (1: 10-11).

Peter goes on to say that these prophets of old were searching for the timing of this great event—the unveiling of the sons of God. And it was revealed to them that it was not going to be in their own lifetimes, but in a time reaching far into the future. It would be a time after Yahweh would pour Himself fully into a human being called the Messiah, the Saviour, the Lamb of God, the Son of God. The prophets indeed did tell us in the scriptures about this immortality promised to God’s offspring. And Peter says that that message of the unveiling of the children of God has been reported unto us by the apostles who “have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven” (1: 12). Since “Ghost” and “Spirit” are translated from the same Greek word pneuma, we can see that the Spirit of the living Yahweh will preach and teach us of Yahweh’s crowning achievement, the unveiling of His immortal sons and daughters in these latter days.

Peter goes on and admonishes us to be sober-minded and “hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Yahshua the Messiah” (13). Here again we have the word apokalupsis, translated “re-velation.” As we have seen, the word means a revealing, an unveiling of Yahshua in the latter days.

For the revelation or unveiling of Yahshua at the end time is the unveiling of not only Him, but also the rest of His body. For He is the head, and we are His body. When the head is unveiled, then so will His body be unveiled in glorious splendor.

Seeing we have this precious calling that has been given to us in our undeserving state, Peter admonishes us to sojourn here on earth “as obedient children.” We are not to continue on acting like we did in our previous ignorant sinful state, but we are to be set apart for the Master’s use “in all manner of conversation.” The words of our mouth should reflect the new life we have been given. We should be obedient to His command in Leviticus 11:44, “Be ye holy, for I am holy.” In other words, because you are now my children, walk as such, gratefully expressing out of your mouths the great things that the Father has bestowed upon us all (1: 15).

[LucySmith]

Neph...




It does not matter what colour your body suit is - what does matter is how mature you are in christ divine ability.
how changed you are
how incorruptable you are
how faithfull you are to the truth

the outside of the cup is unimportant.
it is the inside that is vital to understand.
the real you needs YOUR PROMPT ATTENTION.
the real you NEEDS TO BECOME AWAKENED TO ITS REAL MISSION.
the real you DOES NOT NEED RELIGION but awakened /quickened to living life.

The opportunity that is presented to those who are called to the first resurrection is almost beyond comprehension. God the Father offers not only eternal life to those he calls to salvation in this age but also immortal life and great rewards and positions of service in his Family and Kingdom.



The quality of life promised by the Father is comparable to that which he has himself . The Father is a spirit being who inherently possesses the highest form of life: immortality on a divine plane of existence. Immortality is life that springs forth from itself and it is not dependent on any other source to sustain it because it is self-sustaining. The acquisition of immortality allows a person to pass beyond this physical existence into the Family of God.


See
1.Cor.15:51-54;

Rom.2:7;

2.Tim.1:9-10;

1.Pet.4:6;

Rev.20:6.

By B.L. Cocherell and Charles. E. Barrett

[nephilim]

Neph.
It does not matter what colour your body suit is - what does matter is how mature you are in christ divine ability.
how changed you are
how incorruptable you are
how faithfull you are to the truth

the outside of the cup is unimportant.
it is the inside that is vital to understand.
the real you needs YOUR PROMPT ATTENTION.
the real you NEEDS TO BECOME AWAKENED TO ITS REAL MISSION.
the real you DOES NOT NEED RELIGION but awakened /quickened to living life.

The disconnection between Church and State, as unnatural as it is, and as hard to explain as it is, it is accepted. It is an acknowledgement that a greater process is changing man, and this process is incomplete. Not acknowledging these processes, has always lead to one political or social defeat or another, in sight of the state of man, and these conglomerates (bodies of exchange).

1. Churches tend to expand and build buildings away from existing congregations, the phenomenon of churches, and this includes the Roman Catholic Church, building buildings in the middle of nowhere is not uncommon.

2. The top companies in the usa and worldwide, produce annual reports and distribute them like bibles, you would think this would be unnecessary because we are in the information age.

3. Governments urge law enforcement to be permissible to certain kinds of illegal activities, they realize if this was not allowed for certain groups of people, certain ethnicities, then the "war on crime", could be a "war on the public". Lessons learned from prohibition (access to alcohol), civil rights movements, and equal opportunity movements.

These are activities and acknowledgements of ARMAGEDDON, Armageddon is very real, and so is everything that we talked about.

..........................BACK TO TOPIC....................The UTUBE VIDEOS above....................

Represent an underestimation of our state of being in relation to the Cosmic & Consciousness Shift of 2012. The relationship our Consciousnesses, share with the Universe, is based on particle relationships, that can only affect the subconscious mind. These relationships do not affect technology, and do not pose a circumstantial threat of any significant degree, to the earth's fundamental forces, as hard as this is to believe, this must be believed. The real threat comes from portions of humanity, who accept the pleasure of committing sin, and acts that cause and lead to death. Based on the effects of the subconscious, which can be drug like for a great many people.

The period for this conflict is surprisingly short, about or less than 37 earth days, Constellation LEO. There is only supporting evidence, i've explored which lengthens this period for a slightly longer than this period, but we must keep watch.

Our state of being, and this includes our bodies are apart of who we are. For certain groups of people, it is more pleasurable and easier to commit certain kinds of sin. Over time this can become a biological component, autonomy can be a very simple factor that helps a person commit sin, if they are not mindful, the fact is. The CRIMINAL MIND is more prevalent among people of darker skin colors, and certain ethnicities, and it is more prevalent in the generally hotter climates that are generally below a certain latitudinal lines: like the Tropic of Cancer.

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We are based on particle relationships, that cannot be discovered in this universe by us, and do not affect what we understand as reality directly. And as a matter of fact, do not affect the earth directly during the 2012 process, but affect the universe around us. The only thing that can explain this is our "excited state, or an excited particle state". Dark Matter is evidence of our special state, and this universe, and this is something we have to come to terms with.

Practically speaking, besides conflict resolution between yourselves and between nations, there is only migration. That is about all mankind is expected to do. The amount of time left, for this Armageddon Conflict. Seems short, this does not mean it will not happen, or these people will not opportunistically seek out ways to cause death, and suffering. It only means they don't have much time to do it, and therefore they won't be as organized, so they will likely be less of a threat, but they will be a threat, they are now and they will be.

Our state of being is the issue, that has challenged the prophets understanding of the destiny of mankind, and now it is belief that challenges this generation.

Thanks for the Responses (nancy lieder's blog referenced the revolution clip)

[LucySmith]

now for some GOODNEWS.....the counterfeit pimps in the pulpit are getting found out.



http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...in-gallup-poll

[nephilim]

....I decided to put the theology of the armageddon conflict, in a slightly more pregressive perspective in relation to the topic.

The White Mary represents the redemption from sin. When we follow what sin is: the obstacle to the prosperity of life. Then we learn mankind is in a state of sin, because mankind is in a state of judgement. The judgement of the universe for man is "change", and this is the trial of becoming. It is much easier, to remain in a state of stasis, about our philosophical positions, and preferrential way of life. It is this state of stasis, which is the lower position, that has been repeated challenged against the state of man. It it is the imposition of this greater position, that has always contributed to, and reflected the best interests of man. The Redemption of Sin from this "universe", is the completion of this judgement. This is what the Churches have represented, for some time, and we can see this reflected in some small part against another comparison which will be made.

The Black Mary, we learned it has represented a desire to perform "sin" with impunity. A desire to challenge the prosperity of life for man, which has been ascribed by the universe, as apart of the process of "becoming". We learned the universe has allowed, the existence of the most progressive sins of man. Again we learned this has been a merciful display, of the power of redemption the universe has intended as apart of its plan, and as a reminder that death is the end of sin, and this is our natural state, when we turn away from the process of "becoming", the faithful have endured, through time. We will view what kind of becoming has been taking place that has exemplified the relationship of "sin", as an obstacle for man, that is being removed.



You can view the judgement process, as a game of poker between "Darby the Gambler", and "Jojo". In the sense, that to the majority of mankind, the process of "faith", has meant nothing, and the judgement is done without respect to the person. To those who believe, the outcome of the judgement has been in their interests, as it is apart of the process of "becoming"..............Back to our discussion.

A Picture of the Redemption of Sin, "Rites of Priest Ordination"

Gathering
Calling of the Candidates
Presentation and Inquiry
Acceptance
Examination of the Candidate
Promise of Obedience
Prayer for the Candidates
Chanting of the Litany
Laying on of Hands
The One Priesthood of Christ
Vesting the New Priest
Anointing of the Hands
Presentation of the Gifts
Liturgy of the Eucharist
Communion
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We see an impersonal devotion being commuted, one that affords the due processes for the "redemption of sin". We also see, a discipline that encourages, the progression towards the obedience to the "faith", for other individuals. We see something else. The Church has not been a political law administering body for some time. This has meant, the Church has been promoting "tolerance", for the portion of man in sin, and this has only accelerated the conflict that is inevitable at the end of time. For the portion of man being rejected, because of the threat they present to mankind.........

A Picture of the Impunity for Sins, seen against the trite undermining of the legal system

Reduced Sentences (for murders/rapes/assaults)
Death Penalty (removed from most states and parts of the world)
Racial Profiling (has been discouraged/removed)
Search and Seizure (has been discouraged/removed)
Legalizing of Narcotics (weed is an example)
Political Inclusion (for ethnicity based on nothing more than who they are)
Work Place Inclusion (federal benefits for #of regardless of qualification, in most cases)
Race Flag to Exclude "Due Process" (often decides jury outcome when used, it is more often used)
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The fact is the spanish and black population in the usa commit the most murders and crime, as well as commute the most amount of contraband. We see the legal and political system mended to allow this activity, and primarily this specific influences, and intervention listed above, as well as the ones not listed. We also see a greater pattern in the international community, in relation to rapes, and murders and in relation to "rapes and murders, and proverty, and food aid being recieved from other countries, as well as guns and ammo". We see a profound relationship that exists with man, that must be handled according to what they have described. The systematic sterilization of mankind, in reality, what they have achieved based on "sin", the law of NEWLIFE will achieve the greater portion based on "faith".

The loss of life, and property damage, and time they have remaining, will ultimately determine your response. The fact of the matter is this, the key to the reconcilation, and this has been talked about many times, can probably be rationalized to a different degree. That is, in certain cities and counties, restrictions we have described must undoubly be performed. The list above only adds minute details, namely.

1. Race Flag to Exclude "Due Process"
2. Racial Profiling
3. Death Penalty

This is what they decided to do for quite some time, to cause pain and suffering, it must be an essential element to the reconcilation process. 30 or 40 days or not, a lot of innocent people can die in this period of time, if we are not keeping watch...........

[palerider]

LUCY.....your just EVIL...and I mean that in the philosophical sense....EVIL

[palerider]

Hey palerider; Hope all is well with you.

Now, ....There are mods who suggest there is entertainment value in some threads even when people disagree or at extreme odds. Sooooooooooooooooo.....

Lucy, meet nephilim.

nephilim, meet Lucy.


One just has to wonder which of the two will prevail as they rant meaningless circles around each other, as in outlasting each other with their pressing TRUTHS.......

and attitudes are similar when it comes to posting their TRUTHS...they are like relentless pit bulls with their teeth in a side of beef...

but to nephilims credit, though he may be an outward bigot and racist towards people of color, he's never insulting in his answers to posters. Odd isnit it?

Lucy is just down right gnasty and hates everyone! lol

Hey Lillith...thanks for the great analogy......spot on :O)

But I have great difficulty with preachers who fail to see their own weaknesses and deliberations. Even if I could say with absolute heart that I believed in the New Testament I know from old experiences that this diatribe that Lucy preaches is frought with considerable dangerous lies......to most people on here they will read it and think of nothing else but to move on....my concern is the poor soul who cannot fathom the illogical rhetoric and completely hateful procrastination of what I call evil in real terms.....its just VILE

But Lucy won't answer me....she uses my username as an excuse to refute the notion of an answer let alone an answer.....not often I cast opinion...but here my belief in goodness far outweighs her waffle and putrid hate......but the lack of a respionse proves only one thing....and she knows it

[palerider]

(what the Black Madonna is and represents, and what Mother Mary is and represents)


The Queen of Heaven in the old testament, representative of the "Black Madonna" seen above: (Isis (egypt)), Ishtar (babylonian), Inanna (sumerian) - (they were notable dark or black idols). Represented the removal of the Gospel Program, it represented the sanctioning of the "Church Body", BEFORE, heaven had intended to sanction the Church Body. It was designed to represent the allure of sin, and the promise of death as the greater pleasure as a result of the pleasure of sin.



When Christ was Crucified, the "Church Body" was sanctified, as a representation of the removal of the Gospel Program. And instead of the "Black Madonna" as a representation of man's ascension, the "Mother Mary", as a white figure was adopted, as in this methodogy was no longer sinful. The Church was sanctified to serve as a intermediatary between god and man, where it had not been in the past. (The Catholic Church has been the most faithful in this respect, but there are other churches who are also faithful. Back to the point in case.)
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Sin can be very pleasureable, pleasureable enough to motivate entire continents, races, and civilization to thrive off of proverty, disease, death, and various states of inhumanity. The fact is, this is their reward, they don't live beyond their life times, and when there is a judgement from heaven, this relationship always dies because it is an obstruction, and the judgement plan and process has been progressive to the end of time. There is nothing inhumane about the sterilization of this relationship, it is difficult for anyone to understand the "Criminal Mind", or certain psychotic or ethnic behavior. Without understanding the affinity to sin, as a result of the rejection of the relationship of "faith", based on generation activity, and based on personal preference. This is not something which is valuable, but it is something you must simply understand that it is something that is being removed from mankind, as it has been done repeated through human history.



The great MYSTERY of "faith", is it is the relationship that is being given to mankind at the end of time, as apart of an evolutionary process. And this relationship makes man equal with god. In this universe, the angels that come down, are brought in inequity, and are the equals with man. Nothing being done to mankind, has not been done to the angels in heaven, and it has not been done to god himself, did Jesus not come to die, for your sin (to contribute to the process of ascension).

(the law of newlife is based on irrefutable fact, and the relationship of "faith", and it is the translation of the relationship of "faith", the rest of your questions are the result of your disbelief in what it is that I have to say, and not ignorance, because I have said these things)


Thanks for your Responses

Did discourse and theological history just change overnight......meh....hang on....need to check if I'm still alive (he pinches himself).....yup...still here

[LucySmith]

no.. palerider, not evil , just a teller who wars against a failed system.
it is just you fail to discern the hoax that is called a christian religion.
you are subjected to a hoax as this system is not NT bible and how Jesus ministered.
People are awakening to this counterfeit system, that has not reproduced anyone in the image of Christ.
the church system produces spiritual cripples.
You live in death and have made a covenant with death - that misery of the devil all men suffer from - yet the devil is a defeated foe.
why not reverse your opinion and actually learn from the NT HOW LIFE APPEARS in the lordship of the Saviour, rather than remain very ignorant and die.
Jesus is OUTSIDE this system, HE SAYS So - so who is inside?

[palerider]

no.. palerider, not evil , just a teller who wars against a failed system.
it is just you fail to discern the hoax that is called a christian religion.
you are subjected to a hoax as this system is not NT bible and how Jesus ministered.
People are awakening to this counterfeit system, that has not reproduced anyone in the image of Christ.
the church system produces spiritual cripples.
You live in death and have made a covenant with death - that misery of the devil all men suffer from - yet the devil is a defeated foe.
why not reverse your opinion and actually learn from the NT HOW LIFE APPEARS in the lordship of the Saviour, rather than remain very ignorant and die.
Jesus is OUTSIDE this system, HE SAYS So - so who is inside?

No Lucy and with absolute reverence I give you an equal and undoubted argument......Not once on this forum have I given credence to the Christian view......but neither have argued against it....why?

Irrespective of your Godly views you simply cannot without real logical debate argue against current theology. You can however without corrupting any words or deeds state your own case....to date you have not once declared your view

If you are God fearing...then I am convinced he will allow you that grace....and if you are not then humanism will see your words and respond......you cannot hide behind such vicious words or misguided ideals...the world is desperate and needless of idol notions.....if you speak then it must be on your terms....and not futile qoutaions followed by self imported idealisms biblically derived.......such a view is pure sophism...

[LucySmith]

NO palerider....
i post the gospel, the one preached.
THAT DEATH HAS BEEN ABOLISHED and
THE DEVIL is defeated.
the ''current'' theology comes from the UNANOINTED AND THE UNDELIVERED as they still die in sin.
MY TERMS are the NT bible terms.
2 tim. v 9-10-11.

the whole of gospel of John is Jesus advice and eternal life.

YOU SEE paleride - death is not a friend, but has been abolished.
The facts are right from the NT, BIBLE BASED.

if you believe the church system - you believe in their 1/2 truth gospel and mixed with pagan lies from hireling pimps robbers and con artists.

you see Palerider....
Jesus CAME TO BREAK the curse of sin and death.
He came to give forgiveness and divine love and show the PATH INTO HIS KINGDOM.

consider this....
when Jesus was born, He was NO different than all men - He was mortal -a mortal child - His father was advised by God the Father to take the child to Egypt so Herod could not KILL HIM.
[do u understand thus] = Jesus was mortal the same as us all.
a mortal baby and a mortal child.

BUT ~HE LEARNT how to become eternal life. Here and now. He did not go anywhere to learn this holy way.

That is why DEATH ran away when JESUS APPEARED IN TRUE LIFE for 3 and 1/2 yrs.
no one could kill Jesus - but - HE SACRIFICED HIMSELF and died for the sins of the world.
THAT WAS HIS MISSION.
He learnt how to defeat the devil and how to abolish death - here and now.

HIS WORDS SHOW HIS DISCIPLES the way into His kingdom.

It is the way out from mortal [like He walked] and into His eternal /immortal life - a step at a time.
how?


HE KNEW how to awake to His inner spiritual Man - the real us as a child of God - and He learnt here and now - HOW TO DEFEAT THE DEVIL by having a changed mind.
He maintained a christ mind over all His situations.
He refused to be defeated or injected by evil.
HE REBUKED THE DEVIL
HE RESISTED THE DEVIL
HE GOT WISDOM.

THE CHRIST MIND - is the mind of the new covenant for the new creation.
the church system retains its adamic mind of good and evil knowledge and cannot break its bondages to sin and death.
it is a horrific hoax and a mockery WHEN COMPARED TO THE MINISTRY OF THE SAVIOUR.
you go and compare the GLORIOUS MINISTRY of the Saviour to the popes ministry, the pastors ministry, the reverends ministry.
NOW YOU WILL SEE, that man's system is FOUND WANTING.

NOW u appear very happy with this horrifying con - so be it. I was not. I dont like being duped by ignorance.


btw
Dont MOCK THE TRUTH OF THE MINISTRY OF THE SAVIOUR who gave up His eternal life to give it to others here and now as His people LEARN TO KEEP HIS SAYINGS.
DONT MOCK the Gospel of Life.
DONT MOCK the ministry of how death is abolished by the Gospel.

the new wine,
the new High priest
the new covenant
the new and living way opened up and the
new creation HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A SIN AND DEATH DYING CHURCH PERSON.,......

[nephilim]

Did discourse and theological history just change overnight......meh....hang on....need to check if I'm still alive (he pinches himself).....yup...still here

The "Queen of Heaven" theology, has existed alongside mankind since the beginning. It is a description of a second creation, that results from god's interaction with man. The "second creation" is not heaven, and this is what many mesopotamian cultures sold, to sell the low standards of living which often entailed their belief systems. The "second creation", is a new universe for man, this is a kind of heaven, but without "god", in the sense of the word.

Hinduism and Islam, are two good examples of byproducts from the mesopotamian age's slander of the "Queen of heaven" theology, for what it has represented for mankind. (Shiva (hindu) is actually pictured as a "Queen", with dark skin typically...Allah, may actually be another Queen, by its implied usage, of rewarding marriage to mardrys, the dark sin as we have learned is based on a spirituality (like the universe turncoating the hyperdimensional interaction with "darkmatter/dark forces"), we also know it can be a secondary reference to a decomposing corpse). The significance of this creation, that is often reflected against the attacks on other religions, only denotes what they are designed to remove, and that is the truth. Which demonstrates apart of the intend of certain kinds of religious pilfering belief systems.

This is a different perspective, towards some of the motivations that will described the armageddon period that namely ends with the sterilization in 2012.

"The Race War in 2012"

Nostradamus Lost Plate 24 - Race War


Revelations, Nostradamus, Mother Shipton, Hoppi Prophecies......Charles Manson's visions (to a lesser degree)......this is what immediately comes to mind. Over the course of time and interaction, human interaction has reflected itself against the contended relationship of the hyperdimension, which has been concealed in a dark shroud. A large portion of sin follows this pattern, and some of it does not, but it follows the greater relationship of "faith", as a whole. The Church has an axe against the letter "B", this is for black, and against a "white foot", with a rose held against it, and this is like a reference to spanish (but a general description ethnic based warefare). The "Race War", will predominantly affect the United State of America. Based on its population distribution, large scale international conflict, outside of the middleeast, and india, will largely be absent. Most of this is simply the result of ignorance of this truth.......more on point.....the Charles Manson experience denoted the black panther movement as an aggressor, and after viewing some of their theology, it does parallel my own description, of the kind of "kill or be killed" motivation, that follows the end of the lives of the relationship being removed from mankind. Briefly:

Black Panthers Enactment of the Race War in 2012

The Ten Point Program - Excerpt
1. We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our black Community.
6. We want all black men to be exempt from military service.
8. We want freedom for all black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
9. We want all black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their black communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.
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From the beginning, the Black Panther Party's focus on militancy came with a reputation for violence. The Panthers employed a California law which permitted carrying a loaded rifle or shotgun as long as it was publicly displayed and pointed at no one. Carrying weapons openly and making threats against police officers, for example, chants like "The Revolution has co-ome, it's time to pick up the gu-un. Off the pigs!", helped create the Panthers' reputation as a violent organization.
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The Party briefly merged with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, headed by Stokely Carmichael (later Kwame Ture). In 1967, the party organized a march on the California state capitol to protest the state's attempt to outlaw carrying loaded weapons in public after the Panthers had begun exercising that right.
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From 1966 to 1972, when the party was most active, several departments hired significantly more African-American police officers. During this time period, many African American police officers started to form organizations of their own to become more protective of the African American citizenry and to increase black representation on police forces
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In August 1967, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) instructed its program "COINTELPRO" to "neutralize" what the FBI called "black nationalist hate groups" and other dissident groups.
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Part of the FBI COINTELPRO actions were directed at creating and exploiting existing rivalries between black nationalist factions. One such attempt was to "intensify the degree of animosity" between the Black Panthers and the Blackstone Rangers, a Chicago street gang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

The 40 or so million blacks in the usa, generally prefer a culture that emphasizes a degree of inhumanity. Most of the empowerment movements were designed to prevent the encroachment of this preference by society. We see this struggle as a need to manipulate the political system, into accepting a second standard, and this has been largely a success in the united states (see the popularity of ebonics, and african culture in the usa). "The Ten Point Program", was a creed that advocated the freedom of intimidation, as a mechanism, and one of many towards societies acceptance of this preferred degree of inhumanity, which is associated with the negro culture.
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AS we follow their behavior pattern, we learn. Displays of Lethal force was the next stage in adapting this "second standard" for the ethnicity in the usa. This necessitated a war with law enforcement community, to justify the acceptance of the persistant murder rate among the negro population.
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Specific targeting of individuals, within their communities, that promoted the legal systems lack in ability to produce a suspect, was another selling point, for the "second standard" of inhumanity, which largely is accepted in the usa by the negro population. The party demonstrations, were "de-facto", claims of injustice against government, for expending more than what was due process, to respond to the declining state of humanity, and what had been the developing negro culture, for what is today, accepted in the usa as a bridge for dealing with its non-cascausian population.
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The Law Enforcement, and eventually the political body, would be brought under the "second standard", which the majority of the negro population desired as a culture in the usa. As the promotion of equal rights and representation, and this mean, "negros", in these positions were full advocates of this "second standard" cultural movement.
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COINTELPRO, aptly named in relaiton to the "forty acres and two mules" promised to the freeslaves. Realized the negro conflict, was the result of this "second standard", and not equal economics, and sold its acceptance withing the federal government, as the promotion of black gang violence. This is taking us to the Armageddon RACE WAR in the USA.

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Charles Manson, attempted to capitalize off of the necessity of "lethal force", as a mechanism to deal with the negro culture's challenge it had presented to the legal system, as apart of the promotion of its "second standard". In a sense, the spin the media placed on Charles Manson's activities helped the "second standard" for the negro culture, and subsequently the ethnic population, in the usa............in 2012:

Because of the effects of the hyperdimensional shift (changing of the hidden particle environment of this universe). The exclusion from certain aspects of society for the negro culture, as well as the likelyhood of a general umbrella for ethnicity. As well as the necessity of lethal force for public safety, will almost guarantee a race war, and one that was adverted in the time of Charles Manson's escapade. Economic forebearances, will probably not result in much, leaving the only practical solution lethal force, and its execution will be designed to limit death. This can very well mean the "New Orleans Disaster, mentality" of shipping whole neighborhoods of african americans/other to stadiums, and camps, as a way of biding time, and preventing a public assault, public incident, in certain areas of he country, through escalation.

This is a matter of fact conversation, and not a matter of opinion. I suggest familizaring youselves with the law of NEWLIFE, but also educating the public, and handling each area code, according to the intensity of the expression. The black panthers targed large communities of blacks, Charles Manson target wealthy white homeowners, to spin this into an armageddon incident. There simply has to be a restruction of movement (like driving), and more attention to certain ethnic neighborhoods, and this is not done in vain. It is only a matter of time up to this point.

If I did not honestly believe, and based on the evidence there would not be a problem, I would not be having this conversation. From my first account of the interaction of the universe, I can only say this is the irrefutable truth, and an unavoidable situation. But I will also say this, and this was said a few times, the relationship can be sterilized immediately as a result of its sin...................

Thanks for the Responses