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    The Cross is a Symbol of Intolerance and Hate

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    (Note, i didn't write this article, nor do i totally agree with all of it, but it has many good points.)

    The Cross Is A Symbol
    Of Zionist Intolerance And Hate
    Against Jesus and Christians

    By Cohen G. Reckart, Pastor




    Some have written and asked for Biblical proof that the Cross was a symbol of Jewish intolerance and hate against Jesus and early Christians. The following is written to help explain that charge.

    * * *

    But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause (John 15:25).

    For dogs (Gentiles) have compassed me: the assembly (Jews) of the wicked have enclosed (captured) me: they pierced my hands and my feet (Psalms 22:16)

    And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him (at the crucifixion), as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn (Zech 12:10).

    And again another Scripture saith, They (the Jews) shall look on him whom they pierced. (John 19:37 showing Zech 12:10 was fulfilled at the crucifixion not at the second coming of the Lord as Pre and Mid tribs teach the verse).

    Behold he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him (Jews): and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him (Gentiles). Even so. Amen (Rev 1:7).

    The New Testament is the Messianic historical record concerning the Cross and the Jewish demand of its use to have Jesus put to death (Mark 15:13).

    The cross as we now know it (the Roman Cross) came into use as a means of capital punishment during the time of the Roman Empire. The Romans may have learned this method of killing from the Persians. To our knowledge it was not used by the Romans as an exclusive weapon against nations because they had funny religions or against people who practiced their religions with fervency. If so we would have seen it used against the Jews prior to the killing of Jesus. The cross was a device to kill hardened criminals and those deemed to be malefactors or traitors of the empire. It was not a tool to put religious believers to death, until the Jews in Jerusalem demanded it be used upon Jesus Messiah. After that, and because of it, many thousands of Messianic believers were put to death upon crosses in the most inhumane, cruel, mocking, and hateful manner, shown against such a peaceful non-violent people at any time in the history of the world. It was a time of the spirit of Cain revisited upon the earth.



    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H.../crucified.jpg




    There are symbols in antiquity like unto the Roman cross figure that have no connection to the Roman use. Such is the Egyptian ankh in the figure left which was to these ancient rulers a symbol of life and became a symbol of life and death within the authority of Pharaoh's hand (a form of a scepter). It was a symbol denoting blessings from Aton the sun god upon the Pharaohs. The ankh is in the shape of our modern *T* with a loop attached at the top to wear around the wrist or to hold in the hand by the staff as seen left. Scholars believe the ankh may also symbolize the male and female genitalia of Osiris and Isis as all life was thought to be generated from the union of the two.
    The Crucifix reflects the same meaning as the Ankh as: The Oath, The Word, The Way (Tau). The symbol of Eternal life. Ankh also means "mirror" (see: "First: Jesus" - top of page).

    The Cross is also found in Norse Runes as: Yole, Eohl, and Algiz. It is a stick figure of the crucified Christ which represents: the mirror of truth, safety/salvation, and the enlightened self. "Yole" is similar to the Hebrew names - Joel, and Alalu.

    The caduceus (2 serpents on a eagle winged stick) is one of the most ancient of symbols. This was originally the symbol for the Sirian-Anunnaki Creator God, Enki. The Savior God of Noah (Utnapishtim). The symbolism in the caduceus reflects the Kabbalah Tree of Life.
    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/H...raohChrist.htm

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    The Christian Cross is Originally Pagan
    The main symbol of Christianity is the cross. For example, christian churches are filled with crosses, and christians wear crosses on necklaces, jewelry, clothing, etc. As we saw above, the cross does not originate in the bible. So then where did it come from? The cross is originally a pagan symbol and it existed centuries before Christianity, which demonstrates that Christianity is actually a bastardization of paganism.

    Here are some photos of the "ankh", an ancient Egyptian cross:



    dictionary definition of the ankh:


    "ankh n. A cross shaped like a T with a loop at the top, especially as used in ancient Egypt as a symbol of life. Also called ansate cross."
    (The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)
    Why does the Egyptian cross / ankh symbolize life? Some say it is a combined sexual symbol. The upper portion represents the vulva, and the lower portion represents the penis and testicles.

    Now before you christian fanatics start claiming that the Egyptian ankh is different and unrelated to the christian cross, read these quotes:


    "The ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol of life -- the ankh, a tau cross surmounted by a loop and known as crux ansata -- was adopted and extensively used on Coptic Christian monuments."
    (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition, 1995, volume 3, page 753)
    "A still more curious fact may be mentioned respecting this hieroglyphical character [the Tau], that the early Christians of Egypt adopted it [...] numerous inscriptions, headed by the Tau, are preserved to the present day on early Christian monuments."
    (Wilkinson's Egyptians, by Sir J. G. Wilkinson, volume 5, page 283-284)


    (Hieroglyphs in an ancient Ptolemaic Egyptian frieze, from "The Cross Revealed", by Crichton E. M. Miller.)
    In fact, the cross is to be found in many places in pre-christian times:


    "From its simplicity of form, the cross has been used both as a religious symbol and as an ornament, from the dawn of man's civilization. Various objects, dating from periods long anterior to the Christian era, have been found, marked with crosses of different designs, in almost every part of the old world. India, Syria, Persia and Egypt have all yielded numberless examples, while numerous instances, dating from the later Stone Age to Christian times, have been found in nearly every part of Europe. The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
    (The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition, 1910, volume 7, page 506)



    The original ankh figure began as a simple image of the sun breaking over the horizon at sunrise. It symbolized Assur rising from the long night of death into the light of a new day. Eventually it became the more familiar "sandal strap" ankh which was a combined symbol that represented the life and works of Assur after his resurrection as well as his resurrection. Over time, the ankh symbol evolved into ever more artistic and elaborate forms, but it never lost its original "sunrise" significance.
    http://www.resurrectisis.org/WhyRXSS.htm

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    Interesting, I've never read something like this before. I did a little research after I finished reading the last post, though I found something that counters this view of the cross. It's origin seems reasonably explained too.

    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...istian%20cross

    I would paste the info on this site, but theres too much work involved to clear the pasted info up. Besides, its chow time.

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    Strife :)
    The link you posted is a good one, however, it doesn't seem to look at the versions of the Cross that come before The Greeks, and the Roman Catholic Church.

    The cross has actually been in use for thousands of years prior to any from Greek or Roman times.

    For instance, in Sumeria, Planet Niburu was known as "the planet of the crossing", and a common symbol for this planet was an X. Such as Planet X, as well as the Greek Roman numeral for 10, is an X. Niburu was known as the 10th planet at this time in Sumerian history at roughly 5000BC. The Cross was also a symbol for the Chief Sumerian Goddess INANA.

    Of course, we have the Egyptian ANKH cross, that represented THE ISIS KNOT. A symbol for fertility and infinity. This comes over 1500 years before the Old Testement was written.

    And we have the Hindu TAU CROSS, which came thousands of years before the Christian Cross as well..The TAU CROSS is a major symbol of modern day Freemasonry.

    So the Cross has clearly been a symbol of fertility and life for many thousands of years before it's usage in the Christian perspective.

    I'll post some info on the Tau Cross soon, as well as other usages of Crosses thruout history.

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    FroM THe bOOk THe SecREt tEAcHInGS oF aLL ThE aGEs BY mANLy P. hAll...-1928
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    THE CROSS IN PAGAN SYMBOLISM
    In his article on the Cross and Crucifixion in the Encyclopedia Britannica Thomas Macall Fallow casts much light on the antiquity of this ideograph. "The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
    Not only is the cross itself a familiar object in the art of all nations, but the veneration for it is an essential part of the religious life of the greater part of humanity. It is a common symbol among the American Indians-North, Central, and South. William W. Seymour states: "The Aztec goddess of rain bore a cross in her hand, and the Toltecs claimed that their deity, Quetzalcoatl, taught them the sign and ritual of the cross, hence his staff, or sceptre of power, resembled a crosier, and his mantle was covered with red crosses." (The Cross in Tradition, History and Art.)
    The cross is also highly revered by the Japanese and Chinese. To the Pythagoreans the most sacred of all numbers was 10, the symbol of which is an X, or cross. In both the Japanese and Chinese languages the character of the number 10 is a cross. The Buddhist wheel of life is composed of two crosses superimposed, and its eight points are still preserved to Christendom in the peculiarly formed cross of the Knights Templars, which is essentially Buddhistic. India has preserved the cross, not only in its carvings and paintings, but also in its architectonics; a great number of its temples-like the churches and cathedrals of Christendom-are raised from cruciform foundations.
    On the mandalas of the Tibetans, heaven is laid out in the form of a cross, with a demon king at each of the four gates. A remarkable cross of great antiquity was discovered in the island caves of Elephanta in the harbor of Bombay. Crosses of various kinds were favorite motifs in the art of Chaldea, Phoenicia, Egypt, and Assyria. The initiates of the Eleusinian Mysteries of Greece were given a cross which they suspended about their necks on a chain, or cord, at the time of initiation. To the Rosicrucians, Alchemists, and Illuminati, the cross was the symbol of light, because each of the three letters L V X is derived from some part of the cross..

    THE TAU CROSS.
    There are three distinct forms of the cross. The first is called the TAU (more correctly the TAV). It closely resembles the modern letter T, consisting of a horizontal bar resting on a vertical column, the two arms being of equal length. An oak tree cut off some feet above the ground and its upper part laid across the lower in this form was the symbol of the Druid god Hu. It is suspected that this symbol originated among the Egyptians from the spread of the horns of a bull or ram (Taurus or Aries) and the vertical line of its face. This is sometimes designated as the hammer cross, because if held by its vertical base it is not unlike a mallet or gavel. In one of the Qabbalistic Masonic legends, Hiram Abiff is given a hammer in the form of a TAU by his ancestor, Tubal-cain. The TAU cross is perserved to modern Masonry under the symbol of the T square.(A well known Masonic symbol.) This appears to be the oldest form of the cross extant. The TAU cross was inscribed on the forehead of every person admitted into the Mysteries of Mithras. When a king was initiated into the Egyptian Mysteries, the TAU was placed against his lips. It was tattooed upon the bodies of the candidates in some of the American Indian Mysteries. To the Qabbalist, the TAU stood for heaven and the Pythagorean tetractys. The Caduceus of Hermes was an outgrowth of the TAU cross. (See Albert Pike.)

    THE CRUX ANSATA
    The second type was that of a T, or TAU, cross surmounted by a circle, often foreshortened to the form of an upright oval. This was called by the ancients the Crux Ansata, or the cross of life. It was the key to the Mysteries of antiquity and probably gave rise to the more modern story of St. Peter's golden key to heaven. In the Mysteries of Egypt the candidate passed through all forms of actual imaginary dangers, holding above his head the Crux Ansata, before which the powers of darkness fell back abashed. The student is reminded of the words In hoc signo vinces. The TAU form of the cross is not unlike the SEAL OF VENUS, as Richard Payne Knight has noted. He states: "The cross in this form is something ovservable on coins, and several of them were found in a temple of Serapis (the Serapeum), demolished at the general destruction of those edifices by the Emperor Theodosicus, and were said by the Christian antiquaries of that time to signify the future life."
    Augustus Le Plongeon, in his Sacred Mysteries Among the Mayas and Quiches, noted that the Crux Ansata, which he calls The Key to the Nile and Symbol of Symbols, either in its complete form or as a simple TAU, was to be seen adorning the breasts of statues and bas-reliefs at Palenque, Copan, and throughout Central American. He notes that it was always associated with water; that among the Babylonians it was the emblem of the water gods; among the Scandinavians, of heaven and immortality; and among the Mayas, of rejuvenation and freedom from physical suffering.
    Concerning the association of this symbol with the waters of life, Count Goblet d'Alviella, in his Migration of Symbols, calls attention to the fact that an instrument resembling the Crux Ansata and called the Nilometer was used by the ancient Egyptians for measuring and regulating the indundations of the river Nile. It is probable that this relationship to the Nile caused it to be considered the symbol of life, for Egypt depended entirely upon the inundations of this river for the irrigation necessary to insure sufficient crops. In the papyrus scrolls the Crux Ansata is shown issuing from the mouths of Egyptian kings when they pardoned enemies, and it was buried with them to signify the immortality of the soul. It was carried by many of the gods and goddesses and apparently signified their divine benevolence and life giving power. The Cairo Museum contains a magnificent collection of crosses of many shapes, sizes, and designs, proving that they were a common symbol among the Egyptians.

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    THE ROMAN AND GREEK CATHOLIC CROSSES
    The third form of the cross is the familiar Roman or Greek type, which is closely associated witht he crucifixion of Jesus Christ, although it is improbable that the cross used resembled its more familiar modern form. There are unlimited subvarieties of crosses, differing in the relative proportions of their vertical and horizontal sections. Among the secret orders of different generations we find compounded crosses, cuch as the triple TAU in the Royal Arch of Freemasonry and the double and triple crosses of both Masonic and Roman Catholic symbolism.
    To the Christians the cross has a twofold significance. First, it is the symbol of the death of his Redeemer, through whose martyrdom he feels that he partakes of the glory of God; secondly, it is the symbol of humility, patience, and the burden of life. It is interesting that the cross should be both a symbol of life and a symbol of death. Many nations deeply considered the astronomical aspect of religion, and it is probable that the Persians, Greeks, and Hindus looked upon the cross as a symbol of the equinoxes and the solstices, in the belief that at certain seasons of the year the sun was symbolically crudified upon these imaginary celestial angles.
    The fact that so many nations have regarded their Savior as a personification of the sun globe is convincing evidence that the cross must exist as an astronomical element in pagan allegory.
    There are four basic elements (according to both ancient philosophy and modern science), and the ancients represented them by the four arms of the cross, placing at the end of each arm a mysterious Qabbalistic creature to symbolize the power of one of these elements. Thus, they symbolized the element of earth by bull; water by scorpion, a serpent, or an eagle; fire by a lion; and air by human head surrounded by wings. It is significant that the four letters inscribed upon parchment (some say wood) and fastened to the top of the cross at the time of crucifixion should be the first letters of four Hebrew words which stand for the four elements: "Iammin, the sea or water; Nour, fire; Rouach, the air; and lebeschah, the dry earth."
    That a cross can be formed by opening or unfolding the surfaces of a cube has caused that symbol to be associated witht he earth. Though a cross within a circle has long been regarded as a sign of the planet Earth, it should really be considered as the symbol of the composite element earth, since it is composed of the four triangles of the elements. For thousands of years the cross has been identified with the plan of salvation for humanity. The elements-salt, sulphur, mercury, and Azoth-used in making the Philosopher's Stone in Alchemy, were often symbolized by a cross. The cross of the four cardinal angles also had its secret significance, and Masonic parties of three still go forth to the four cardinal points of the compass in search of the Lost Word.
    The material of which the cross was formed was looked upon as being an essential element in its symbolism. Thus, a goldend cross symbolized illumination; a silver cross, purification; a cross of base metals, humiliation; a cross of wood, aspiration. The fact that among many nations is was customary to spread the arms in prayer had influenced the symolism of the cross, which, because of its shape, has come to be regarded as emblematic of the human body. The four major divisions of the human structure-bones, muscles, nerves, and arteries-are considered to have contributed to the symbolism of the cross. This is especially due to the fact that the spinal nerves cross at the base of the spine, and is a reminder that "Our Lord was crucified also in Egypt."
    Man has four vehicles (or mediums) of expression by means of which the spirtual Ego contacts the external univers: the physical nature, the vital nature, the emotional nature, and the mental nature. Each of these partakes in principle of one of hte primary elements, and the four creatures assigned to them by the Qabbalists caused the cross to symbolic of the compound nature of man.

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    THE CRUCIFIXION-A COSMIC ALLEGORY
    Saviors unnumbered have died for the sins of man and by the hands of man, and through their deaths have interceded in heaven for the souls of their executioners. The martyrdom of the God-Man and the redemption of the world through His blood has been an essential tenet of many great religions. Nearly all these stories can be traced to sun worship, for the glorius orb of day is the Savior who dies annually for every creature within his universe, but year after year rises again victorious from the tomb of winter. Without doubt the doctrine of the constant reminder that the divine nature of man is perpetually crucified upon the animal organism. Certain of the pagan Mysteries included in the ceremony of initiation the crucifixion of the candidate upon a cross, or the laying of his body upon a cruciform altar. It has been claimed that Apollonius of Tyana (the Antichrist) was initiated into the Arcanum of Egypt in the Great Pyramid, where he hung upon a cross until unconscious and was then laid in the tomb (the coffer) for three days. While his body was unconscious, his soul was thought to pass into the realms of the immortals (the place of death). After it had vanquished death (by recognizing that life is eternal) it returned again to the body, which then rose from the coffer, after which he was hailed as a brother by the priests, who believed that he had returned from the land of the dead. This concept was, in substance, the teaching of the Mysteries.

    THE CRUCIFIED SAVIORS
    The list of the deathless mortals who suffered for man that he might recieve the boon of eternal life is an imposing one. Among those connected historically or allegorically with a crucifixion are Prometheus, Adonis, Apollo, Atys, Bacchus, Buddha, Christna, Horus, Indra, Ixion, Mithras, Osiris, Pythagoras, Quetzalcoatl, Semiramis, and Jupiter. According to the fragamentary accounts extant, all these heroes gave their lives to the service of humanity and, with one or two exceptions, died as martyrs for the cause of human progress. In many mysterious ways the manner of their death has been designedly concealed, but it is possible that most of them were crucified upon a cross or tree. The first friend of man, the immortal Prometheus, was crucified on the pinnacle of Mount Caucasus, and a vulture or eagle was placed over his liver to torment him throughout eternity by clawing and rending his flesh with its talons. Prometheus disobeyed the edict of Zeus by bringing fire and immortality to man, so for man he suffered until the coming of Hercules released him from his ages of torment.
    Concerning the crucifixion of the Persian Mithras, J.P. Lundy has written: "Dupuis tells us that Mithra was put to death by crucifixion, and rose again on the 25th of March. In the Persian Mysteries the body of a young man, apparently dead, was exhibited, which was feigned to be restored to life. By his sufferings he was believed to have worked their salvation, and on this account he was called their Savior . His priests watched his tomb to the midnight of the vigil of the 25th of March, with loud cries, and in darkness, when all at once the light burst forth from all parts, the priest cried, Rejoice, O sacred initiated, your God is risen. His death, his pains, and sufferings, have worked your salvation."
    In some cases, as in that of the Buddha, the crucifixion mythos must be taken in an allegorical rather than a literal sense, for the manner of his death has been recorded by his own disciples in the 'Book of the Great Decease. However, the mere fact that the symbolic reference to death upon a tree has been associated with these heroes is sufficient to prove the universality of the crucifixion story.
    The East Indian equivalent of Christ is the immortal Christna, who, sitting in the forest playing his flute, charmed the birds and beasts by his music. It is supposed that this divinely inspired Savior of humanity was crucified upon a tree by his enemies, but great care has been taken to destroy any evidence pointing in that direction. Louis Jacolliot, in his book The Bible in India, thus describes the death of Christna.: "Christna understood that the hour had come for him to quit the earth, and return to the bosom of him who had sent him. Forbidding his disciples to follow him, he went, one day, to make his absolutions on the banks of the Ganges. Arriving at the sacred river, he plunged himself three times therin, then, kneeling, and looking to heaven, he prayed, expecting death. In this position he was pierced with arrows by one of those whose crimes he had unveiled, and who, hearing of his journey to the Ganges, had, with a strong troop, followed with the design of assassinating him. The body of the God-man was suspended to the branches of a tree by his murderer, that it might become the prey of vultures. News of the death having spread, the people came in crowd conducted by Ardjouna, the dearest of the disciples of Christna, to recover his sacred remains. But the mortal frame of the redeemer had disappeared-no doubt it had regained the celestial abodes and the tree to which it had been attached had become suddenly covered with great red flowers and diffused around it the sweetest perfume." Other accounts of the death of Christna declare that he was tied to a cross-shaped tree before the arrows were aimed at him.
    The modern world has been misled in its attitude towards the so-called pagan deities, and has come to view them in a light entirely different from their true characters and meanings. The ridicule and slander heaped by Christendom upon Christna and Bacchus are excellent examples of the persecution of immortal principles by those who have utterly failed to sense the secret meaning of the allegories. Who was the crucified man of Greece, concerning whom vague rumors have been afloat? Many think it was Pythagoras, the true story of whose death was suppressed by early Christian authors because it conflicted with their teachings. Was it true also that the Roman legionaris carried on the field of battle standards upon which were crosses bearing the crucified Sun Man?

    The adoration of the sun was one of the earliest and most
    natural forms of religious expression. Complex modern
    theologies are merely involvements and amplifications of this
    simple aboriginal belief. The primitive mind, recongnizing the
    benificent power of the solar orb, adored it as the proxy of
    the Supreme Deity. Concerning the origin of sun worship,
    Albert Pike makes the following concise statement in his
    Morals and Dogma: "To them (aboriginal peoples) he (the sun)
    was the innate fire of bodies, the fire of Nature. Aurthor of
    Life, heat, and ignition, he was to them the efficient cause of
    all generation, for without him there was no movement, no
    existence, no form. He was to them immense, indivisible,
    imperishable, and everywhere present. It was their need of
    light, and of his creative energy, that was felt by all men; and
    nothing was more fearful to them than his absence. His
    beneficent influeces caused his identification with the
    Principle of Good; and the BRAHMA of the Hindus, the
    MITHRAS of the Persians, and ATHOM, AMUN, PHTHA, and
    OSIRIS, of the Egyptians, the BEL of the Chaldeans, the
    ADONAi of the Phoenicians, the ADONIS and APOLLO of the
    Greeks, became but personifications of the Sun, the
    regenerating Principle, image of that fecundity which
    perpetuates and rejuvenates the world's existence."
    Among all the nations of antiquity, altars, mounds, and
    temples were dedicated to the worship of the orb of day. The
    ruins of these sacred places yet remain, notable among them
    being the pyramids of Yucatan and Egypt, the snake mounds
    of he American Indians, the Zikkurats of Babylon and
    Chaldea, the round towers of Ireland, and the massive rings
    of uncut stone in Britian and Normandy. The Tower of Babel,
    which, according to the Scriptures, was built so theat man
    might reach up to God, was probably an astronomical
    observatory.

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    Many early priests and prophets, both pagan and Christian,
    were versed in astronomy and astrology; their writings are
    best understood when read in the situation and periodicity of
    the heavenly bodies, astronomical principles and terminology
    were introduced into his religious systems. The tutelary gods
    were given planetery thrones, the celestial bodies being
    named after the deities these constellations wandered the
    sun and its planets, the latter with their accompanying
    satellites.
    The sun, as supreme among the celestial bodies visible to the
    astronomers of antiquity, was assigned to the highest of the
    gods and became symbolic of the supreme authority of the
    Creator Himself. From a deep philosophic consideration of the
    powers and principles of the sun has come the concept of the
    Trinity as it is understood in the world today. The tenet of a
    Triune Divinity is not peculiar to Christian or Mosaic theology,
    but forms a conspicuous part of the dogma of the greates
    religions of both ancient and modern times. The Persians,
    Hindus, Babylonians, and Egyptians had their Trinities. In
    every instance these represented the threefold form of one
    supreme Intelligence. In modern Masonry, the Deity is
    symbolized by an equilateral triangle, its three sides
    representing the primary manifestations of the Eternal One
    who is Himself represented as a tiny flame, called by the
    Hebrew Yod..(Note: Yod means the Hebrew word
    hand..As in the "hand of god".)
    The origin of the Trinity is obvious to anyone who will observe
    the daily manifestations of the sun. This orb, being the
    symbol of all Light, has three distinct phases: rising, midday,
    and setting. The philosophers therefore divided the life of all
    things into three distinct parts: growth, maturity, and decay.
    Between the twilight of dawn and the twilight of evening is
    the high noon of resplendent glory. God the Father, the Creator of the world, is symoblized by the dawn. His color is blue, because the sun rising in the morning is veiled in blue mist. God the Son, the Illuminating One sent to bear witness of His Father before all worlds, is the celestial globe at noonday, radiant and magnificent, the maned Lion of Judah, the Golden-haired Savior of the World. Yellow is His color and His power is without end. God the Holy Ghost is the sunset phase, when the orb of day, robed in flaming red, rests for a moment upon the horizon line and then vanishes into the darkness of the night to wander in the lower worlds and later rise again triumphant form the embrace of darkness.
    To the Egyptians the sun was the symobl of immortality, for,
    while it died each night, it rose again with each ensuing
    dawn. Not only has the sun this divinal activity, but it also
    has its annual pilgrimage, during which time it passes
    successively through the twelve celestial houses of the
    heavens, remaining in each for thirty days. Added to these it
    has a third path of travel, which is called the precession of
    the equinoxes, in which it retrogrades around the zodiac
    through the twelve sighns at the rate of one degree every
    seventy two years. The Egyptian priests in many of their
    ceremonies wore the skins of lions which were symbols of the
    solar orb, owning to the fact that the sun is exalted,
    dignified , and most fortunatly placed in the constellation of
    Leo, which he rules and which was at one time the keystone
    of the celestial arch.
    For reasons which they doubtless considered sufficient, those
    who chronicled the life and acts of Jesus found it advisable to
    metamorphhose him into a solar deity. The historical Jesus
    was forgotten; nearly all the salient incidents recorded in the
    four Gospels have their correlations in the movements,
    phases, or functions of the heavenly bodies.
    Among other allegories borrowed by Christianity from pagan
    antiquity is the story of the beautiful, blue-eyed Sun God,
    with His golden hair falling upon His shoulders, robed from
    head to foot in spotless white and carrying in His arms the
    Lamb of God, symbolic of the vernal equinox. This handsome
    youth is a composite of Apollo, Osiris, Orpheus, Mithras, and
    Bacchus, for He has certain characteristics in common with
    each of these pagan deities.
    The Rosicrucians and the Illuminati, describing the angels,
    archangels, and other celestial creatures, declared that they
    resembled small suns, being centers of radiant energy
    surrounded by streamers of Vrilic force.(Note:
    Vril means the force/energy of the blood.) From these
    outpuring streamers fo force is derived the popular belief that
    angels have wings. The wings are corona-like fans of light, by
    means of which the celestial creatures propel themselves
    through the subtle essences of the super-physical worlds.
    Gold is the metal of the sun and has been considered by many
    as crystallized sunlight. When gold is mentioned in alchemical
    tracts, it may be either the metal itlself or the celestial orb
    which is the source, or spirit, of gold. Sulphur because of in
    fiery nature was also associated with the sun."
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    What's the arguement here? Now I'll admit I didn't read through all the reams of cut and paste, but where apparently does it describe the cross being "A Symbol Of Zionist Intolerance And Hate Against Jesus and Christians"
    What exactly are you trying to get at Prez, or are you just stating some fun facts?
    I always thought the image of the cross was a way to guilt people into remembering Jesus died for you, and to fight vampires.
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    I always thought the image of the cross was a way to guilt people into remembering Jesus died for you, and to fight vampires.
    The image of the crucifix repelling vampires is just a concept from books. It was put there to make the christians/catholics to feel better about themselves that their god would protect them...ie bullshit.

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    The image of the crucifix repelling vampires is just a concept from books. It was put there to make the christians/catholics to feel better about themselves that their god would protect them...ie bullshit.
    This is true, as crucifixes can sometimes be seen, being worn by both Raven and I, without ill effects to either.
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    Hmm, you post some interesting stuff prez but I must disagree with you. The indigenous people here have used cross symbolism for thousands of years without it ever being a symbol of hatred. To us it simply represents the four directions.

    Same goes for the "swastika" although when Hitler borrowed it he turned it around. He was as bassackwards as his own symbol.

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    I just wanted to make another post for some strange reason..

    To DarkAce, i did cut and paste, but as for ALL that Manly P. Hall stuff, i Rewrote it all word for word to post on the net. Of course i could have just found it from the net, and cut and pasted it, but that's beside the point..

    DN, i didn't write the first article or the title of Zionism being a symbol of intolerance and hate. I do however see the Christian version of the cross as a symbol of death and torture. And i don't like Zionists either, so there you go..

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    I thought a fag was rolled tobacco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazserus
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    indeed it is.
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    the cross as a symbol...

    I posted this somewhere else as well, but I just could not resist....

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    lol... that's amusing.

    Just yesterday I had to sit through a talk by our headmaster talking about the christian holiday 'Christmas'. Oh how I contemplated standing up and telling him Christmas is originally a pagan holiday that has just been assimilated.

    Is there anything the christians haven't assimilated?
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    You. Judging by the tone of your posts...
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