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    Question How To Stop A Tsunami ?

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    If the wave is traveling at 500 miles per hour...

    Could an equal & opposite reaction stop the wave in it's path?
    Could the USA protect it's shores by creating a tsunami?

    Or by launching a missile or missiles into the wave?

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    Welcome to the "Forum", Anonymous! . . .

    . . .Great to have yah here! - - -The "missile" idea is novel, though I fear it would create more issues then it could hope to resolve; As catastrophic as this was, countless lives COULD HAVE been spared IF:

    1. There had been a more serious effort on the part of official Gov't agencies in those areas affected in the way of WARNING of these types of impending disasters/not unlike those in place for the U.S./Hawaii and Japan. Additionally,

    2. I like the idea the Japanese have utilized, whereas they had built steel-reinforced sloped concrete barriers (that are amazingly) the SAME HEIGHT as the waves that this tsunami had produced. Though this had not yet stood the brunt of what nature could throw at it, (in theory) it is thought that this should lessen the potential damage a tsunami COULD cause. My hat is off to the Japanese for at least ATTEMPTING to deal with these types of catastrophic events.

    3. We need REMEMBER AND MARK the fact that the majority of the deaths caused by this happened in areas that were no-more than 3 METERS
    above sea-level; When this Tsunami struck, THERE SIMPLY WAS NO-WHERE TO RUN!

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    Yeah, missiles wouldn't do a damn thing to it.

    A "counter wave" would not work either. They would just bypass each other and then there would be two waves to deal with.

    Best way is what Bigsky wrote. Have lots of areas people can run for safety and maybe build a giant barrier to help take some of the damage.

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    Speaking theoretically, I think a man-made wave could counter a tsunami if it was the exact opposite. However, how we would make the opposite most likely would be very difficult and not easily-done by today's technology. Saying that, in airplanes pilots use reverse-wave sound technology to cut out most of the noise they hear. This is also used in other area's where there is a lot of noise like chainsaws and other tools for workers. They don't block the sound, they cancel it out by shooting out an opposite sound wave.

    Do I think the wave COULD be countered by a man-made force? Yes. Do I think we have the technology yet to do it? No, probably not easily.
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    I think I remember from high school physics that when waves meet each other, they do not interact at all and continue on their same courses. So a counter wave would not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldblum
    I think I remember from high school physics that when waves meet each other, they do not interact at all and continue on their same courses. So a counter wave would not work.
    Thats right.

    In Tokyo, they are also experementing with a Tsunami drainage system, to drain all water coming above the beach.



    Doesn't that sewer drainage thingee look surreal? It looks like it's from some video game or something.

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    It somehow goes back to the tie-in with how the earth is much stronger than people on it...The earth controls us. We are isolated when weather hits, or flushed into other lands, or snowed in, or rained out...We are subject to this earth's moods and weather changes around us. And constant changes...
    Remember, weather records only go back 200 years in most cases...We don't have a clue what happened on a day to day basis in, say, 1400. We just have some records that relate to other historical events...

    Therefore, it's a moot point to argue if we can stop weather or natural earth functions. The tsunami is a result from a quake, we can't stop quakes, either...We can't stop snow, or seed clouds to make it effective. AND if we start trying too hard, I'd imagine the natural earth would most likely counter with its own way of natural destruction and growth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotrfan55345
    Thats right.

    In Tokyo, they are also experementing with a Tsunami drainage system, to drain all water coming above the beach.



    Doesn't that sewer drainage thingee look surreal? It looks like it's from some video game or something.
    That is so cool looking and is a damn good idea, and would probably work.

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    I'm not sure a tsunami can be stopped. The best way to deal with tsunamis is to detect them before they hit land, and give people as much warning as possible. I'm surprised the Atlantic isn't being monitered, or at least not enough. It's better to "waste" money on such a system than look back and wish we had one in place.

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    I saw a poll on a news channel recently about the tsunamis in asia. The question was "Could the authorities have done more to warn people about the tsunamis?". Yes or no. The response was 86% yes, 14% no. This just goes to show how little people know about what happens. Does the east coast of the US have a tsunami alert system? Does the UK or any of europe? No. If there was to be a big enough earthquake on the fault line in the atlantic, all of the east coast cities of the US would be badly hit. So would the UK, France, and many other countries. This would have to be a very big quake of course, but it would do alot of damage. Tsunamis can happen anywhere there is a fault line under the sea. The last major earthquake in the indian ocean was a very long time ago. Countries there can't afford to spend lots of money on tsunami alert systems when earthquakes rarely cause them in that region anyway. Japan has defences because they have lots of money, and they have lots of earthquakes.
    So basically:
    There is no way to stop tsunamis (with current technology), but there is a way to save lives; early warnings, evacuations. Just a half hour warning could be enough. In the asian tsunamis, there is no warning system, beacuse they rarely get them there.

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    the answer is simple, I can stop a tsunami.

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    The answer is even more simple.

    There is NO way humans can create an exact copy of a tsunami. It would involve slapping around with tectonic plates which is not humanly possible. Bombs or missiles could never cause a tsunami. Just a lot of dead fish.

    So forget cancelling out a tsunami with another tsunami. Impossible.

    Weakening a wave by draining it?!? I wonder. Hard to believe.
    Breaking a wave by large objects? Usually the wavelenght of a tsunami is quite large, 2 to 300 feet. You'd need a damn big breaker to break a wave like that, let alone the mega-tsunamis, with wavelengths up to hundreds of miles....

    Nature is stronger than men. It's a given fact, and you can not get around it.
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    LOL LOL LOL, ok here i like this thread i find it funny do u really actually think u may stop a tsunami hmmmm there are some members on here i would have to agree with but stoppin a tsunami no not a chance never will.... imaging the force of a wave of that magnatude no no no not possible an if anyone may have information saying it is possible post it i want to see this lol lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvyarms
    Speaking theoretically, I think a man-made wave could counter a tsunami if it was the exact opposite. However, how we would make the opposite most likely would be very difficult and not easily-done by today's technology. Saying that, in airplanes pilots use reverse-wave sound technology to cut out most of the noise they hear. This is also used in other area's where there is a lot of noise like chainsaws and other tools for workers. They don't block the sound, they cancel it out by shooting out an opposite sound wave.

    Do I think the wave COULD be countered by a man-made force? Yes. Do I think we have the technology yet to do it? No, probably not easily.
    You can stop tsunami only in theory-and it will always be possible to stop tsunami in our fantasy/theory,but we would never get the high-tech to stop it in reality.

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    I think it is impossible to stop a tsunami of that magnitude. Look, it was cause by a 9.2 earthquake. That one released a energy of around 32 billion tons of TNT. The largest nuclear warhead i heard of had 150 megatons. Now let's see, to get the energy of this earthquake you would need 32.000.000.000 divided by 150.000 warheads of that kind, i.e. around 200.000. Not sure if the nuclear arsenal of the world would be enough for that.(Source of the richter scale, scroll down to the bottom for the energy scale)

    Now waves only interfere where they meet not affecting them when they leave each others influence. That means you would have to cause a tsunami at the same wavelength as the natural one starting from the same point at the same time only with opposite magnitude. Even *if* it were possible the timing is rather...awkward to say the least.

    Draining away the tsunami might reduce the force of it on certain areas but is no means to stop it. Say the tsunami is 4 meters high setting like 3km deep the land under water and you want to stop a stretch of, say, 25 kilometers you'll have to drain away 4 x 3000 x 25000 = 300.000.000 cubic metres of water within seconds to minutes.

    Only way i can imagine to protect certain areas against a tsunami wave would be a, like, 10 metres high concrete wall, thick enough to withstand the impact and with a deep enough base to prevent it to get washed out beneath, making it topple. Not that those walls would look ugly as hell they'd cost quite a fortune and take up quite a lot of space.

    So in conclusion i have to say, the best protection against a tsunami is a early warning and quick evacuation procedures. Anything else is rather futile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havoc Angel
    I think it is impossible to stop a tsunami of that magnitude. Look, it was cause by a 9.2 earthquake. That one released a energy of around 32 billion tons of TNT. The largest nuclear warhead i heard of had 150 megatons. Now let's see, to get the energy of this earthquake you would need 32.000.000.000 divided by 150.000 warheads of that kind, i.e. around 200.000. Not sure if the nuclear arsenal of the world would be enough for that.(Source of the richter scale, scroll down to the bottom for the energy scale)

    Now waves only interfere where they meet not affecting them when they leave each others influence. That means you would have to cause a tsunami at the same wavelength as the natural one starting from the same point at the same time only with opposite magnitude. Even *if* it were possible the timing is rather...awkward to say the least.

    Draining away the tsunami might reduce the force of it on certain areas but is no means to stop it. Say the tsunami is 4 meters high setting like 3km deep the land under water and you want to stop a stretch of, say, 25 kilometers you'll have to drain away 4 x 3000 x 25000 = 300.000.000 cubic metres of water within seconds to minutes.

    Only way i can imagine to protect certain areas against a tsunami wave would be a, like, 10 metres high concrete wall, thick enough to withstand the impact and with a deep enough base to prevent it to get washed out beneath, making it topple. Not that those walls would look ugly as hell they'd cost quite a fortune and take up quite a lot of space.

    So in conclusion i have to say, the best protection against a tsunami is a early warning and quick evacuation procedures. Anything else is rather futile.
    You have to realize it,nature is stronger than man or any of his technology-on any level,and water "melts" everything,if you have 10 meters big wall,imagine 10 meter big wave rushes into that wall 700 km per hour,that wall wouldn't be able to stop it.You're talking about to create another equally big tsunami to stop the other one-the only problem is we don't have and we will never have that kind of high-tech.

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    I was trying to point out that it is rather impossible to create a counter-wave to stop a tsunami. You would most likely just create a second one or increase the magnitude of the original wave *even if* there was a technology to create a artificial tsunami.
    Please, get out of your mind.
    You will love the new perspective.

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    Cool It is impossible

    We have all seen the destruction of the Asian tsunami sweeping away everything in it's path. That is what a tsunami can do. The waves were up to 10 metres high but with incredible force. Imagine trying to stop and 50m wave coming really fast. Nothing could stop it, all you can do is run inland or to high ground. There are warning systems but that's all we can do. Nobody can predict a tsunami and nothinh can stop one. There will be future tsunamis, all we can do is be prepared
    Last edited by Danzaman123; Feb 20th, 2005 at 7:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danzaman123
    We have all seen the destruction of the Asian tsunami sweeping away everything in it's path. That is what a tsunami can do. The waves were up to 10 metres high but with incredible force. Imagine trying to stop and 50m wave coming really fast. Nothing could stop it, all you can do is run inland or to ground. There are warning systems but that's all we can do. Nobody can predict a tsunami and nothinh can stop one. There will be future tsunamis, all we can do is be prepared
    (Thank you you are 100% right Danzaman123) I cant help but notice this thread is still going considering there is no stopping natures force and come on stopping a tsunami yea right as i said before it can never happen no matter what u do to try to prevent it like Danz said run like HELL lol.............
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    Uh...nothing can stop a tsunami. The only thing you can do is run away and hide...and not get hurt. or smushed. The drainage thing might work, but that's averting it, not stopping it. You all are not that smart.

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    What if the government issued surf boards to all areas in danger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontBeAfraid
    What if the government issued surf boards to all areas in danger?
    That doesn't work, stupid! A tsunami is not a 'surfing' type wave. It looks like a big bump on the water. Try and surf on that...you'll be dead.

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    its imposible to stop a tsunami but we can survive one with the correct building...

    Here's a clue... Pyramid!!!............... or a dome
    Oh no thats an aswer :O nevermind....

    Its strange how most predated structures where pyramid of some sort :)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontBeAfraid
    What if the government issued surf boards to all areas in danger?
    Massive entertaining suicide.

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