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Jan 26th, 2005 11:56 PM #1
What Limits Forgiveness?
What Limits Forgiveness?
"For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses neither will your father forgive your trespasses."
- Matthew 6:14-15
"Anger will never disappear so long as thoughts of resentment are cherished in the mind. Anger will disappear just as soon as thoughts of resentment are forgotten."
"Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against then Spirit will not be forgiven."
As we watch our world burn and drown in an ever increasing amount of natural disasters and war, many people have come to the conclusion that perhaps prophecy is at hand. That the events unfolding are the divine work of God as He unleashes vials of plagues on the earth in the final judgement upon mankind. And to be honest, with all the sin, perversion, murder, lust, greed and gluttony on the planet today, it's easy to see why many can believe that the final hour for all this eclectic mess of confusion might be coming to an end. It's almost gotten to the point where you'd be crazy to not want some kind of change in the direction that the world is taking. This pre-conceived motion of perpetual decay and discord that our elites have carefully molded in order to maintain their power, and our eternal subservience to a failing system. For if they can make us hate the world around us, make us hate each other and want to see it all burn down, how much easier for them to firmly establish this "New World Order' that they eat and sleep with 24 hours a day. This New World Order that is born and bred into them within the very fabric of their genes.
But this isn't meant to be a piece on the NWO, not really anyway. This is meant as a small reflection of the truer nature of God, and the meaning and purpose of forgiveness in our lives. A trait that is easily understood, yet sometimes very difficult to achieve. Firstly, before we take this any farther, let me say that i am not a Christian. -I just felt the breeze as half of the readership decided to leave.- But seriously, i don't have to be a Christian in order to relay some vital information and for you to sympathize with my concern over this planet that we all share for better or worse. So bear with me for a moment. This won't take long. You'll be back surfing your favorite websites in no time.
As the clock of the ages shifts into its new time zone, the energy and consciousness of the planet is in a race to catch up with itself. Day by day, technology outpaces provisions and regulations that might keep it in check. And instead of causing new businesses and jobs, it seems to be taking away from the public livelihood at an alarming rate. Not to mention the massive influx of Big Brother technologies that seeks to strip away our civil liberties and privacies piece by piece. We can't even keep in harmony with the mechanisms of our own device, let alone the delicate nuances of mother nature as it rocks through the birth pangs of the coming celestial changing of the guard.
The puppet masters of corporate politics, the international Zionist banking scheme and fat cat globalists, have deciphered the riddle of the spheres and are seeking to align their own agendas into the mesh of planetary change and cyclical solar activity such as has not been kept record of in the known annals of humanity. These so called "ancients" and ascended masters have timed out their works of religious prophecy in order to better manipulate and orchestrate the dynamics of the New World Order system. They have strategically fashioned disease, war, famine, and desecration on a global scale all in order to bring about a new structure of their collective design. A structure first implemented by the elites of old in the Egyptian, Greek, and Roman cultures; of whose symbolism reigns so heavily in their modern day secret societies and brotherhoods. A time and place not so long ago when "gods", and "giants" walked the earth, and mankind was only a footnote to the great deeds and exploits of these figures who sat atop the Eleusinian mysteries and Mount Olympus.
Knowing what we do, that in fact prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak by a small minority of the wealthiest people on the planet, and that they would like to socially engineer a population reduction of 90%, this begs a philosophical quandary. How do we forgive such a primitive and beastly mind set that wishes to view us as heads of livestock fit for the meat processing conveyor belt? Do we forgive them? Can we forgive them? First we must ask 'can we forgive ourselves?' For the elite, as vile and noxious as they are, represent our worst fears. Those things about each of us that we loath, despise, and seek to hide. Of course in the elites 'all seeing eye' they view themselves as the shining achievement and prime accomplishment of the universal "great work" But we know that behind their logical and deceitful facade, most of our "elected" officials are down right insane, aren't they? They'd have to be to believe that we're really buying into this bologna they feed us every day in the newspapers and nightly media programs. (And if you'll look carefully, you'll notice that the bologna they're feeding us is actually of the Soylent Green variety. So next time you consume it, remember that might be your friend or neighbor in there. Me, i'm not biting. I've had enough of this spoiled and wretched meat to last a lifetime or two.) Or maybe they are just so full of themselves with the inability to witness their own failure that they just don't care if we see through the thin masks to the lizards within them. Or if we view them again displaying satanic hand gestures at their inaugurations, as they immediately start putting out disinfo to state that the hand sign is really only a Texas "Longhorns" salute. If it was really only a Longhorns salute it might make more sense why the elites current conquer of the globe is more akin to date-rape then to a masterful plan of enlightenment. These people steal elections, they hardly even need votes to get in to office. They hold some of the most influential business dealings in the world, as well as militaristic power and authority of which history has never known. What do they care if we know they masturbated in coffin for their private Skull and Bones initiation ceremony? Or have long standing business relations with the Saudis and Bin Laden family? Part of the Masonic 'Great Work' and one of the Cabalistic laws of alchemy, is to make the unknown known. For the Revelation itself means 'to reveal'. So long as we see the brand of illusion they're selling us and don't think for ourselves. They have nothing to fear from little old you or me knowing parts of the truth.
Or do they?
Of course they want us to believe our daily dose of psy-ops and be good little drones, but when stories like the Iraqi abuse scandal, the Alberto Gonzales torture memos, Haliburton, and the Carlyle group can get front page news, while the topics of Zionism is avoided like the plague, one must wonder which is the real news and what is memorex. What is the subliminal media whitewashing, and what are the real stories that our attentions are being diverted away from? And with the increased security and police state measures being implemented from sea to shining sea, it still isn't surprising to some that Osama Bin Ladens whereabouts remain unknown, at least to the public. Because without the controlled opposition bogey man that the Bush administration needs in order to play their agenda of fear, there is no war, there is no profit. There is no push for globalized banking and government. Don't kid you yourself. The old friend of the Bush family is probably drinking matinees on a beach somewhere and getting the best health care that American money can buy.
Jan 26th, 2005 11:57 PM #2
When thinking about the limits of forgiveness, one must keep in mind that, if given the chance, at least half of America would want Bin Ladens head on a pike for public display if it was an option. Just as the freedom movement and purveyors of truth regarding 911 must have an open mind when dealing with relating subject matter, so too must we have a heart filled with compassion and the ability to dig in deep and retain an optimistic forgiveness of our overbearing manipulators. Turn the other cheek. You get back what you put in. You can't fight fire with fire. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. You catch more flies with honey then with vinegar. Look for the silver lining . Love conquers all. You've heard these cliche's a million times and the reason is be cause these time tested metaphors hold up as eternal and vigilant truths of which everyone can understand. To not have these simple measures put into place would mean absolute chaos for a society as well as a spirit. And it doesn't require a Bible to understand these lessons. It only requires an ounce of compassion and common sense. For while we might not yet love everyone unconditionally as God intended for us, we can learn to turn the other cheek more and try to understand the mind set of our assailants.
The wolves are now at the door. Our own inner demons personified and eager to destroy and replace us with facsimile versions of ourselves. The invaders from Mars who want to make zombie pod people out of us. Do we love the wolf and pity it, or do we hate the wolf for the murderous rampage it has wrought? Do we destroy the creature for the harm it inflicts, or do we befriend the creature and seek to tame it? Always on guard that the wolf has sharp fangs and will bite, because that's what wolves do .Who is the beast, and who is the man? Or is their inseparable nature the very reason for our historical strife? Granny, what big eyes you have! Can we forgive the liars, murderers, and thieves, or do we continue the trend of playing God in passing judgement upon them?
Just as we must learn to simultaneously purge and embrace our own negative characteristics on a daily basis in order to be whole, so too must we rebuke and rejoice at the hard lessons the elite have taught us. Let's face it, we've given nearly everything we can. The vampire suckles on both wrists now, and the shirt off our back was given long ago. I'm not telling you to be eager to lay your life down. But violence only begets violence, and an eye for an eye leaves us all blind. There are many so called "Christians" out there who might know their Bibles and guns front and back, but have not even a passing recognition of their own hearts and small inner voice. Who think that the more people they condemn to hell, the more room will be open for themselves in heaven. We must remember that we cannot increase our own radiance by extinguishing the candle of another.
The whole point of this short essay is not to end in saying "love big brother." It is meant to recognize our own inner beauty and perfection, and that the power of prayer, positive thought, and optimism will fill us with a hope that our hatred and anger could never achieve. No, i'm not telling you to love big brother, i'm asking you to rise above him. Understand him. Pity him. And ultimately forgive him. For without forgiveness all around, this wonderful world of ours will never know fulfillment, happiness, nor redemption.
Stand up and fight oppression , tyranny, corruption, and injustice at all costs. But before we can hope to heal the world, we must first heal ourselves. It all starts with you.
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Feb 6th, 2005 6:18 AM #3
Words well spoken, Old Soul. Forgivness is relative to the transgressions that have been a part of the assault upon our humanity. The act of turning a cheek is a form of choice that can be experienced by those that would become lemmings to the dictates of overbearing officers of indescriminate leaders. The choice to live in fear is a program that influences those that are weak at heart and mind. Shall we find ourselves in a room with a wild animal, would we be the one cornered or would we corner the beast? The question is relative to the one that is in the room. The depth in our understandings of whatever truth we realize is a part of the reaction that we would present to any sort of opposition with regard to personal safety, integrity, protection, or any depth in security about our wits.
You speak of a NWO in terms that are not representative of what is taking place in today's scheme of things, yet the possibility does, in fact, exist. We are not there yet, Old Friend. In order to take on the task of securing our posture, we Must develop an offence that replies to the aggressors form of attacks, otherwise we become the slave to a thought that will ultimately end in our destruction..Alawa-sta-we-ches
Feb 8th, 2005 12:17 AM #4
Thanks for the response Dead Man. I just wanted to re-enforce the belief that violence can only temporarily conquer violence. I did not mean to say that we should be weak, for it is the greatest strength to know the violence of your opposer, but not reduce yourself to the same form of violence being used against you.
While it's hard to always live by our own standards,love and forgiveness are far more powerful then guns and bombs. There does come a time when you cannot sit and allow yourself to be slaughtered, but self defense is different from attacking.
You speak of a NWO in terms that are not representative of what is taking place in today's scheme of things, yet the possibility does, in fact, exist. We are not there yet, Old Friend.
Here is the latest episode of Rev Radio #11.
Episode #11-Posted 02/07/05
Haliburton, RFK Speaks out against Fascism, Symbolism and More!
Feb 8th, 2005 8:00 AM #5
I dare say that this is old news, I am aware of the Cheney/Haliburton connection. It is not a mystery that the oil reserves are of some interest to the USA, but I can't help but be a part of those who might feel that there is a larger factor involved in our presence, militarily, in the Middle East. This all leads to what the believer is in search of. Herein lies the crux of the thought of whether we have a valid reason for doing what we are doing in that part of the world.
Let's look at another part of the picture. More than a Millenia ago the teachings of Islam set out to conquer the world as they new it in an attempt to convert the world to their way of life. It worked for the most part in the Middle East and parts of Africa, and Western Asia, as they approached Western Europe, the Islamic revolution in the 700's encountered depth in a Christian belief that brought about the Crusades and the development of the Knights Templar, Free Masons and the Illuminati. Islam was driven back into the barbarism of the lands they conquered. Todays struggles are not about anything New in the World. It is quite an old War for those that continue the fight against a type of insanity that would take pleasure in our destruction, with methods of murder that assault our very core of Life and Love. Islam preys upon our fears and through this thought, they threaten us as we become complacent in our successes, both personal and spiritual.
Many ask themselves why we need to be involved in the War and now that the elections have come and gone, without a determination as of yet, why should we stay? We are not fighting the Iraqi people, we fight the congregation of a thought that are raised to Hate all that is not about their like kind. They wish to be the oppressors as they have been oppressed, all their lives. It is of a like mind that we can not change the mindset of these people, as they have set this frame of mind to pass it along to their children. I don't recall any reference to Love in the Koran/Qua-ran, however you wish to spell it.
Vilify our interests across the Atlantic, but if we take a pacifists method in withdrawing our efforts to fix this Eons Aged Battle, we will most certainly condemn our populous from any sort of Freedoms that we had been founded upon.
BTW, I have been listening to your entire radio show in the process of this post...Alawa-sta-we-ches
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