Prove God doesn't exist and convert a Deist.

***stewey*** · May 18th, 2005 3:42 PM

Here ya go Atheists. Convert me!

***nrj*** · May 18th, 2005 3:58 PM

Originally Posted by stewey

Here ya go Atheists. Convert me!

I think it was liberdave who said:

If a God exists, then why did he create evil? And dont say its because we have to learn from our mistakes! how the fuck do you learn anything when a sudden ice age errupts, as it did 10 000 years ago. And all those ever appering terrorists? I mean, if he is that allmighty, and can create anything, and brake all the laws in the universe, he would know that violence creates violence. I mean, if he now created us, he would also know the reason why all the countries in the world who has the death penalty, also has the highest murder rate. Plus, there is no concrete evidence that everything must have a creator. the theory itself destroys itself.

***lotrfan55345*** · May 18th, 2005 4:06 PM

"You musn't question god!"

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · May 18th, 2005 4:46 PM

This is a carbon copy of the Santa thread. You're just substituting "Santa" with "God". Read the Santa thread and you'll realize that faith is based on faith while logic is shunned. If you don't read it for that, then you should at least read it to find out why Santa gives out lumps of coal to bad little boys like you...

**Houston411** · May 18th, 2005 5:09 PM

Maybe some people are to ignorant to understand, which is ok, we don't expect you too.

Thats the fine line between us, and them.

**terminatordrei** · May 18th, 2005 5:37 PM

I guess Atheists are right, the burden of proof is on us theists.

**Houston411** · May 18th, 2005 6:04 PM

If this is to spite that stupid "Forgotten Rebel", I am pro thread on this one.

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · May 18th, 2005 6:36 PM

Prove to me that the Easter Bunny DOESN'T exist. See? ANYBODY can claim that just about ANYTHING can exist. Thus, the burden of proof is upon those who claim that something EXISTS, not upon those who claim that something does NOT exist...

***Marajadex*** · May 18th, 2005 7:13 PM

Hmmmm.... Star Wars opens tonight...
How about a thread...
Prove Darth Vader doesn't exist...

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · May 18th, 2005 7:50 PM

Hmmmm.... Star Wars opens tonight...
How about a thread...
Prove Darth Vader doesn't exist...

Heh heh heh... you're evil, Mara! And I DIG that! When are you going to see it? I've got tickets for Saturday night. I CANNOT WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***Marajadex*** · May 18th, 2005 8:05 PM

Originally Posted by B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

Heh heh heh... you're evil, Mara! And I DIG that!

*Mara Blushes Aw Shucks

Hey... for a long time now I have had a fixation on Darth Vader. Millennium ago when I was in college I had a life sized Darth Vader Mannequin (Not a cardboard standup) in my dorm room. Scared the heck out of several people... My roommate and I just called him Dad.

Originally Posted by B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

When are you going to see it? I've got tickets for Saturday night. I CANNOT WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The kid in me wants to see if I can score a ticket to one of the showings tonight. The adult in me (which is older than Yoda) reminds me I have to be up at the butt crack of dawn to get to work. It will most likely be this Sunday. And... I CANNOT WAIT EITHER!!!!!!!!! Yea!!!! Star Wars!!!! I already bought the book but I have not read much.... yet...

**terminatordrei** · May 18th, 2005 9:43 PM

You'd think at least one satellite would have spotted Santa.

**Keeblergiant** · May 18th, 2005 10:18 PM

Heh heh heh... you're evil, Mara! And I DIG that! When are you going to see it? I've got tickets for Saturday night. I CANNOT WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:00 on Friday night. YES!

You'd think at least one satellite would have spotted Santa.

He has flying reindeer, a bag that can fit an infinite number of toys, and he somehow fits don't every kids chimney...even if they don't have one. I'm pretty sure a guy with those skills can avoid detection if he wanted to.

**terminatordrei** · May 18th, 2005 11:15 PM

Can Santa carry a present so heavy he can't lift?

***Mezurashi*** · May 19th, 2005 7:23 AM

God exists because if He didn't, all the assholes and weaklings in the world would have been served up as Soylent Green long ago.

God exists because He is the only power that could allow so much stupidity and ignornace to prosper freely in the world.

God exists because He said so, dammit!

and then there's Buddha ...

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · May 19th, 2005 9:06 AM

8:00 on Friday night. YES!

I'm jealous, Keebler! Enjoy!

You'd think at least one satellite would have spotted Santa.

You'd think that at least ONE person would have seen God in the past 2000 years... By the way, check out the Santa thread that I started and you'll see that we use the same "logic" that YOU use to prove that God exists in order to prove that Santa exists. << several tables begin turning >>

Can Santa carry a present so heavy he can't lift?

Yes. Yes he can.

***stewey*** · May 19th, 2005 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Houston411

If this is to spite that stupid "Forgotten Rebel", I am pro thread on this one.

You hit the nail on the head

**terminatordrei** · May 19th, 2005 6:07 PM

You'd think that at least ONE person would have seen God in the past 2000 years...

I just think of God as a creator, nothing more nothing less. I don't believe in miracles or revelations.

By the way, check out the Santa thread that I started and you'll see that we use the same "logic" that YOU use to prove that God exists in order to prove that Santa exists.

I'm not trying to prove God exists, just pointing out why I think comparing it to Santa is useless.

All I'm doing is speaking my mind, I have no interest in changing yours.

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · May 19th, 2005 6:33 PM

I'm not trying to prove God exists, just pointing out why I think comparing it to Santa is useless.

But it's NOT useless. It shows that ANYBODY can "prove" that ANYTHING exists simply by requiring people to prove that it DOESN'T exist. It's a silly "proof"...

All I'm doing is speaking my mind, I have no interest in changing yours.

Fair enough. I'm not so much interested in changing someone's beliefs as I am to change their way of thinking and their train of logic...

**greg420** · May 19th, 2005 10:10 PM

The burden of proof is on the theists to proove that their God exists, your a complete fool if you think otherwise.

As for Stewey and Houston, immature <expletive>, enough said.

***Marajadex*** · May 19th, 2005 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by terminatordrei

All I'm doing is speaking my mind, I have no interest in changing yours.

Originally Posted by B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

Fair enough. I'm not so much interested in changing someone's beliefs as I am to change their way of thinking and their train of logic...

Bravo both of you!!! Well Said!!!

I believe you both hit the nail straight on the head. Too many (NOT ALL) posters here try to make you change your opinions to suit their beliefs. They don't realize that what makes discussion interesting is the diversity of beliefs presented.

***stewey*** · May 20th, 2005 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by greg420

The burden of proof is on the theists to proove that their God exists, your a complete fool if you think otherwise.

As for Stewey and Houston, immature twats, enough said.

Why?

In the beginning of mankind, there was widespread belief in a God or Gods. Since atheism is "breaking the tradition", so to speak, the burden of proof would be on you. Atheists claim to be more intelligent and "enlightened", so lets see you guys prove it.

***lotrfan55345*** · May 20th, 2005 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by stewey

Atheists claim to be more intelligent and "enlightened", so lets see you guys prove it.

When? I don't think any active atheist posters here claim to be more intelligent or "enlightened" in any way.

I read up somewhere that during the first million years of humanity, there were no religious beleifs at all. It is a "recent" event.

***Marajadex*** · May 20th, 2005 6:46 PM

Originally Posted by lotrfan55345

I don't think any active atheist posters here claim to be more intelligent or "enlightened" in any way.

Again I must agree. I have read back through several threads on Religion and find that to be true. No boasting of intelligence. Actually I think a persons intelligence can be seen in the manner and content of their posts. If we all agreed (and again I am agreeing with someone... go figure! LOL!) on everything then this site would be an awfully boring place.

**Forgotten Rebel** · May 20th, 2005 7:55 PM

Originally Posted by Houston411

If this is to spite that stupid "Forgotten Rebel", I am pro thread on this one.

You are a dumb <expletive>, now that we've seen calling people names doesn't matter and doesn't effect me or you just drop it. I don't know what you got against me, maybe it's perhaps that you have some sort of inferiority complex, I don't know and I really don't care.

I decided when I get some time that I'm going to go through all your posts (or however many it takes) and see the blatent ignorance and stupidity that you display on a regular basis. And turn it into a brand new thread. Instead of attacking me how about you attack my ideas? Or is that too hard for a simpleton like you?

Let me explain something to you, the following quote is taken from 'Ideas of the Great Philosophers' by William S. Sahakian (you know books, right? they're the rectangular things with pages in them with words typed on the pages)

Under Epistemology and Logic [outlines the various fallacies people making arguements fall into]

Arguement Ad Hominem (appeal to personal ridicule)
"The fallacy of shifting an arguement from the point being discussed to the personality of an opponent is known as arguement ad hominem. Instead of dealing with an opponent's thesis on its merites, the fallacious arguement attacks his reputation and moral character, or refers to his low intelligence, inferior social position, lack of education, or similar shortcomings. (The fallacy is illustrated by statements such as: "Would you accept evidence presented by this low contemptible heathen?" etc." "

If you were semi-intelligent, you would accuse me of doing the same thing to you, but there is one difference. You don't present ideas to be discussed, instead you make ridiculus comments about my character, which then causes me to make self-explanitory posts such as this one.

You call me stupid yet you offer no proof???