Reveal thyself, God. REVEAL THYSELF!!!

[Jake99]

The true christ would say that if you saw the true christ then you saw God but that God the creator is higher than christ the servant.

I James Murphy am the christ and the world needs to follow me for I am Gods special servant between god and man. Together God and I have in his way performed hundreds of prophecies and miracles that were hidden from mans eyes and yet performed in his midst. My lifes story as the modern day christ is so unbelievable that it had to be mysteriously performed and I was mocked, beaten, tried and crucified along the same path only Jesus has ever walked. Man was asleep the first time when Jesus came and went and this time I hope to wake all mankind from its slumber.

According to the bad news of this world it is only through the good news that man can be saved. I am the good news person and leader the world is awaiting the appearance of and I am ready when you are.

Interesting that I say the same things today as I did when this thread was started .

[Jake99]

This is from May 2005, my first post in this thread.

I accept your challenge for god to reveal himself if you accept mine. I am the Christ and I can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Your challenge is to prove me wrong. I am not god but he uses my body as his mediator. I will tell you of the many hundreds of things I have done that no other human has ever achieved which would be called miracles by definition. They are not actually miracles just the wonderful results of using a simple system and genetic engineering. If you wish to see god then you must look at me for I was built in his image. That does not mean he looks like me or is me but rather that he acts through me. I am the portal through which you must pass in order to enter heaven on earth. No we are not going into the clouds we are fixing the systems of this world. That is what I have been training for in the fortune 500 manufacturing companies of the U.S. for many years. I stand alone as the most efficient and successful business leader in all of time according to the numbers which were posted daily. I have fulfilled many prophesies with the residue of my efforts, and the success I have achieved as a leader dwarfs the success of all your leaders combined. I fix problems in minutes that others fought and or endured for generations. I had no one standing behind me and I stood against everyone who was standing in front of me. I have defeated so many of your top leaders and lawyers that it was little more than child's play and a hobby. All god would ask of you is to listen to me and you will be with him in this world.

[Cartesiantheater]

This thread is pure blasphemy. You will all get your judgement when and only when the lord almighty sees fit to do it. <insert my comments: How CONVENIENT, eh?>

The ones that don't believe will get theirs in 2012 it looks like.

The Lord is going to take US (Christians) to Heaven to bee with Him there. You aren't the Resurrection are you Jake? Is this site primarily Christian believers or is just people that know the end is coming but not interested in how it relates to the end times events of the Bible. I am interested in Bible Prophecy and of course I don't expect to be here in 2012. I believe that the Lord takes beelievers before the tribulation comes.

Come 2012, this is what we will all see:

<< crickets chirping >>

[MaximumPain]

Come 2012, this is what we will all see:

I'll bet the date gets moved after it doesn't happen. Someone will claim the original calendar wasn't synced correctly with our Gregorian one and will call it 2014 or something. That's what I love about prophecy its never wrong just the interpretation by humans was wrong.

[Jake99]

Thanks Traveler, and one thing to add:

"Seek and Ye shall find, Ask and Ye shall recieve."

"He who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

You must call on Jake99 and listen to knowledge you have never heard before which resolves all problems that mankind is creating.

Only in the peace and stillness of one's heart and mind may the Divine be seen. We are too busy, too consumed by this world, too distracted by physical things to be able to see and hear The One. But in the quietness of one's heart, the soul cries out for it's home among the stars... God is there, within us. But we must remember to listen, to look and to nurture our connection with the Divine Force.

Listen to me I am the One who understands the Bible and has the wake of Christ to prove it. The politicians are liars, cheaters and theives who support the money-changers and sellers who control this planet.

The Lord is going to take US (Christians) to Heaven to bee with Him there. You aren't the Resurrection are you Jake? Is this site primarily Christian believers or is just people that know the end is coming but not interested in how it relates to the end times events of the Bible. I am interested in Bible Prophecy and of course I don't expect to be here in 2012. I believe that the Lord takes beelievers before the tribulation comes.

Yes I am the resurrected Christ and the Bible is correct but how it is interpreted is incorrect. That book is based on logic not magic and if you are expecting violations of the laws of nature and looking up to the sky for answers then you are deaf, dumb and blind just as the Bible says you are. I plan on driving the wolves in sheeps clothing into the lake of fire and you dont even know who they are. I plan on transforming this Earth into the heaven the Bible has described and it is an easy process once the government of the planet is upon my shoulders.

I'll bet the date gets moved after it doesn't happen. Someone will claim the original calendar wasn't synced correctly with our Gregorian one and will call it 2014 or something. That's what I love about prophecy its never wrong just the interpretation by humans was wrong.

The End of this world and the beginning of heaven on Earth must go through me and the date of your surrender is up to you in that you have to wake up and listen to me to understand the Bible.

[hellmanager]

Oh my... LOL! Well, perhaps he is thinking about himself. If he does show himself, the world might become peaceful, but there won't be a moment's peace for him. Everybody would attack him with their stupid personal demands, expecting him to do this and that. God is wise.

[Cartesiantheater]

Oh my... LOL! Well, perhaps he is thinking about himself. If he does show himself, the world might become peaceful, but there won't be a moment's peace for him. Everybody would attack him with their stupid personal demands, expecting him to do this and that. God is wise.

lol! That's a good first post in this thread.

BUT.... if God is all powerful, doesn't that mean he has the power to have infinite patience?

[Jake99]

Oh my... LOL! Well, perhaps he is thinking about himself. If he does show himself, the world might become peaceful, but there won't be a moment's peace for him. Everybody would attack him with their stupid personal demands, expecting him to do this and that. God is wise.

If you have seen me you have seen God and if you accept me as world leader I will teach everyone how to manage the planet in a peaceful and prosperous manner. I can meet all your demands that are justifiable and I am smarter than all of your leaders combined. I will do what the Bible says I will do which is make new out of old, immortal out of mortal and more out of less while meeting the needs and orders from all corners of the world at the same time 24/7/365. I have managed and modified the fastest and most efficient bakeries in the USA and we met the demands from customers, companies and union employees everyday without fail for decades no matter what or how much product was ordered and we delivered a million high quality products on time every day. I am used to meeting the demands of everyone at the same time while at the same time delivering permanent solutions to every problem that arises.

Actually the mainstream does not want to do things my way because they think they are the way already yet the daily news says they are 180 degrees off course.

I am very patient but you are running out of time.

[Ningishiddza]

This is a fine example of Christian bashing which was the topic of another thread recently.

Violence isn't the answer.

That's hilarious coming from a christian. Read my signature line.

So you'd stand by and watch with a big smile while these wackos Armageddon-it to see if the Divine Pyromaniac Jr comes back?

That's nice. I hope your family doesn't suffer too terribly much.

It not that he is anti Christian as such. It is anti God period.

Um, which god would that be?

From the ‘Ajrud Text:

I bless you through Yahweh of Samaria, and through his Asherah!

And the El Qom Inscription:

Uriyahu, the king, has written this. Blessed be Uriyahu through Yahweh, and his enemies have been conquered through Yahweh’s Asherah.

And who can forget Keilalphabetische Texte aus Ugarit?

The name of the son of god, Yahweh

God is El in this instance. Yahweh is the son of El.

The Canaanites also worshipped El Shaddai, El Elyon, and El Berith

You don't even know what god you're worshipping.

Hell, I'll give you a white robe and burn some incense and you can throw yourself down with your face to the ground before my throne and worshiped me, saying, “Amen! Praise and glory, and wisdom and thanksgiving, and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!”

I think I recognise INSANE when I hear it..

The insane believe in things that don't exist, and make claims like dragons are flying around forcing women to drown their children in the bathtub.

I am very patient but you are running out of time.

So what are you waiting for, an invitation?

Go ahead, make our day.

[Traveler]

You impress no one.

Judgment has already started to fall and the manner in which it is coming about follows the the stereo type found in the bible.

Also your attempt to keep pointing to the texts found concerning the gods of the Philistines and the Canaanites is quite laughable. These were the very religions that God raised up the Israelite nation to drive out of the land. So your claim that the Bible is based on these earlier ideas is not going to add up too well is it?

All the gods of those old tribes are found in modern day demonology, there names have not changed and their attributes are still the same, only now they all have their own web pages and fan clubs with heavy metal bands playing in their names.

If the real God chased them off back then, then why do you think he will not do the same thing again now. If you want to sell your soul for the temporal gain of this moment then go ahead and be an idiot, you will find out soon enough what they want your soul for in the end. And it wont be pretty soul tied slave.

[Goldmoon]

The lusts of the flesh and the wicked abominations of man, or living upright for good in Him.

What is acceptable in the eyes of a living being named Yaweh?

[Cartesiantheater]

You impress no one.

Judgment has already started to fall and the manner in which it is coming about follows the the stereo type found in the bible.

Also your attempt to keep pointing to the texts found concerning the gods of the Philistines and the Canaanites is quite laughable. These were the very religions that God raised up the Israelite nation to drive out of the land. So your claim that the Bible is based on these earlier ideas is not going to add up too well is it?

Certainly not if you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

It would be the same sort of thing if a Christian used the Bible as evidence in an argument with an atheist. A Christian could just argue that the only reason there are any similarities between Biblical stories and stories from these other civilizations is because Satan was/is trying to deceive people.

All the gods of those old tribes are found in modern day demonology, there names have not changed and their attributes are still the same, only now they all have their own web pages and fan clubs with heavy metal bands playing in their names.

If the real God chased them off back then, then why do you think he will not do the same thing again now. If you want to sell your soul for the temporal gain of this moment then go ahead and be an idiot, you will find out soon enough what they want your soul for in the end. And it wont be pretty soul tied slave.

Well, I don't think Ning is suggesting that ANY of those "gods" are even real.

[Traveler]

Just thought I should bump it again to keep this thread in the back of the mind.

After all you did all call for God to reveal himself.

[johnBeeone]

The Real Christ is not here Physically - In Our Reality

23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe him.

24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. <---- He must Be a Alchemist ^_^

25 Remember, I have told you ahead of time.

26 So then, if someone says to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe him.

27 For just like the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so the coming of the Son of Man will be

[Traveler]

Remember how you guys took offence to this post back in 2007.

Soulless and evil? Spoken like a true liberal. It's moral and just. I'd bet you'd let Yahweh rape your infant daughter just so he would love you and let you into "heaven." You're as sick and depraved as all the others who would worship a putrefied piece of shit like that. I can see why you would be so tolerant of crime, it sort of creates a hypocrisy when your Yahweh does it, so you can't exactly condemn others. Naturally, immolation is a fitting (and efficient) way to exterminate the followers of Yahweh and his sidekicks Jackass Jesus the Divine Pyromaniac Junior and the Wholly Pyro-Poltergeist.

And I'll get help soon enough. Fortunately, the signs point more and more to religious strife or civil war in the US. It would definitely be worth it to stay here just to slay christians in self-defense of others.

Well take a look around, it was not that far off the Mark. In gradual steps society has changed and what this guy worked towards is now gaining momentum. It is a form of religious war that is developing. Do a web search on this guys name, it is found in the encyclopedias. Its associated with science and pestilence as in genetic modifications. The red horse is getting ready for the final showdown with the white horse which is being weakened by the black horse. The pale green horse is going to be here soon enough.

[tahn1000]

the "religious war" has been going on since the jeshurun took it as an offence that ishmael received the grace of god. only it's gained momentum since the so-called crusades because they have their good little christian soldiers to do their killing for them.

[tahn1000]

and i wouldn't be looking forward to the pale horse if i was you. because it's pale and in GHOST horse, the mount of abaddon, according to christ. and that will be the end of all, and, according to christ and issiah, the end of god believers.

[johnBeeone]

and i wouldn't be looking forward to the pale horse if i was you. because it's pale and in GHOST horse, the mount of abaddon, according to christ. and that will be the end of all, and, according to christ and issiah, the end of god believers.

Don't Look Forward "Walk Forward and Look Up in the Sky...Is This is the True Aim of what is NASA's continues to do that pass down from all our ancestors ? in-spite all the complicated-complex eventualities war and hatred Good and Evil love and continue living survival? come-on bro there is got to be an end-point of this ^_^ cheer-up


31But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.1 Corinthians 12

Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Colossians 3
1Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is youra life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

Things Above is for Astronomers - common thoughts
earthly things - Archaeologist and variety branches of studying chemistry and Biology - common thinking

What if he is Afraid from God and a Religious Person what way and kind of thinking he will do? of course the Most of ALL Biblically, Scientifically, Mathematically, logically... and yes Brother Tahn ^_^

13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.Ecclesiastes 12

[tahn1000]

oh, we won't be going "there" He (ABBADON) will be coming here...

dissecting the book of revelations

it is hard when reading through the book of revelation to sort out just how much is the rhetoric of the saducees and how much was really from christ himself.

but if you accept that christ DID NOT worship the jewish god then much begins to make sense and we begin to SEPARATE what was said by christ and what was added in later by the religious leaders.

(John 5:37-40 jesus berating the saducees)
37. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

(john 8:37-40, jesus speaking to the religious rulers, the saducees)
37. i know that ye are abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
38. i speak that which i have seen with my father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39. they answered and said unto him, abraham is our father. jesus saith unto them, if ye were abraham's children, ye would do the works of abraham.
40. but now ye seek to kill me, a man that has told you the truth, which i have heard from god: this did not abraham.

"father" was another title which the jews used in reference to "god", even as christians do today. when christ spoke of "god", he wasn't referring to the jewish "god".

in fact, christ held to the ancient belief of the babylonians - the original hebrews - the force of life flowed from the living sun, and rejected the "afterlife" that was the promise of jewish scripture.

(John ch.3)
4. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

(Revelation 22)
16. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

jesus christ, descended from kings, and believer in the origin of all life, the sun - the sun that is VILLIFIED in the book of issiah as the fallen LUCIFER, the sun personified.

(isaiah 14) (9) Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. (10) All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? (11) Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. (12) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
(13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (15) Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. (16) They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; (18) That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

(there is something else here - a double meaning hidden by the jewish authorities. everyone believes that lucifer is name in reference to the sun. but look at what else is mentioned - hell, or the pit, also known as the ABYSS! and who is it that the ancients of BABYLON believed ruled in the abyss, and is even mentioned in the revelations? ABADDON! LUCIFER IS ANOTHER NAME FOR ABADDON. let us for a moment look at another passage from the book of. remember that christ did not worship the jewish god, so this passage can only be in reference to the spirit king, ABADDON.

Matthew 10 (28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

AGAIN, the reference to hell/pit/abyss, WHERE IT IS SAID THAT ABADDON REIGNS.)

with this in mind, let us now carve our way through the swathe of deceptions to try to find our way closer to what christ's original message was about.


..... or maybe you can't. maybe you are so trapped, so blinded, by doctrine and dogma that you can't even begin to contemplate that everything you thought you knew is wrong.


let us begin then with the opening address because even HERE contradictions lie in plain view of the reader.

(Revelation ch1)

Re:1:4: John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Re:1:5: And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Re:1:6: And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

[CHRIST DID NOT WORSHIP THE JEWISH GOD, and he was murdered by the jewish religious rulers - the saducees. and look at this "unto god and his father". is the "son of god" a god himself? according to peoples such as the greeks and romans, then yes he must be a demi-god at least, so this line would appeal. but ask any jew and he will say there is only one god. ask any christian and they will say the same by rote, and then look confused.]

Re:1:7: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

[CHRIST LITERALLY BEGGED HIS FOLLOWERS TO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD NOT RETURN. read these three sentences, and try to imagine a single possibility that would contradict them - Matthew 24:23: Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25: Behold, I have told you before. 26: Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. and apparently he repeated more often than is recorded in the bible. the very same thing is recorded in the book of mark, Mark 13:21: And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

if you find yourself imagining him coming down from the clouds with his legions of angels, remember that if you do heed christ's words YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE AND NOT BE DECEIVED.]

Re:1:8: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

["LORD", OR "EL" WAS A TITLE OF THE JEWISH GOD, and "alpha and omega" is still used by the traditional churches today as reference to the jewish god - not jesus. and, again, jesus did not worship the jewish god. so did christ write or direct to have written line 8 of chapter 1 of the book of revelation? NO!, because christ never claimed to be god, nor did he believe in the jewish god. so no salutation from him would mentionthe jewish god.]

right at the beginning, the authenticity or at least the genuiness of the letter is in question. if it was literally christ's words, then there would be no talk or salutation of the jewish "god". CHRIST DID NOT WORSHIP THE JEWISH GOD, so how is it reasonable that the letters to the "seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea" (Rev 1:11) could possibly be directed to be written by him. and john the baptiser believed the same as christ, so he would not have authored these "letters" himself. the only answer is that the original prophesy has been ALTERED.

(Revelation ch6)

i've always thought that the fourth seal, the fifth and sixth had been swapped around. it doesn't make sense that anyone should "wait" once death rides out into the universe. i think it should be, by sequence...

Re:6:9: And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Re:6:10: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Re:6:11: And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Re:6:12: And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Re:6:13: And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Re:6:14: And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Re:6:15: And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Re:6:16: And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

(by the way the lamb said "father forgive them", but it's not his wrath that should be feared, but the one in whose name he came.)

Re:6:7: And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
Re:6:8: And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

you can ignore the rest because why would death/destruction be limited. according to the misplaced sixth seal part of the tale it is the entire universe which is thrown into chaos. then again, hell is historically SHEOL, which makes the ruler of sheol, ABADDON, death on a pale (ghost/spirit) horse so i'm figuring when this all happens (assuming christ's prophesy is true, and you can ignore all the little rewrites) the universe is screwed because it is the anger of ABADDON which has been arroused and he finally answers the ever-increasing cries of the souls wronged with his sword.

there's a limit somewhere. and only he will know when it can no longer be borne.

[johnBeeone]

oh, we won't be going "there" He (ABBADON) will be coming here...

dissecting the book of revelations

it is hard when reading through the book of revelation to sort out just how much is the rhetoric of the saducees and how much was really from christ himself.

Nope for those who are...^_^ really Prepared and Hopeful ^_^ Because

Blessed is he that

1 readeth, and they that
2 hear the words of this prophecy, and
3.keep those things which are written therein:

for the time is at hand. Rev1:3


Mark 4:11
11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Waiting is something like training hard and Being Ready and attune
Spiritually In and Out is to developed a hopeful

a "pure love and compassion" on everyday choirs and routine..a hobby like should practice nowadays in times like this nowadays..
a level up of conscience and awareness and It's high time...

and brother than1000 I agree with you this time

Because it is inevitable for all of us on what is going to happen globally "Eventualities"

because is part of the secret recipe that all "theoretical philosophical founders" wants to know... since they began and started it to understand and theorized all possible what may...
and we all continue it in our time "so much debate since then but action speaks louder than words than waiting only"

though we are all now different and have so very complex in views and beliefs but still we all still feel and have many common things and do many common things "A Piece of Eternal things is what we call LOVE" Love is a Thing

[tahn1000]

We don't agree atall. Christ and his TRUE followers weren't talking about the jewishchristian "god" they were waiting for abaddon.

[Beatnik Bob]

Reveal thyself! Oh mighty Abaddon! Aussie God of Tahn!

[tahn1000]

Atheists don"t believe in the existence of "gods+ and abaddon is the archangel king of souls he is described as a spirit, not a god.

[johnBeeone]

We don't agree atall. Christ and his TRUE followers weren't talking about the jewishchristian "god" they were waiting for abaddon.

Whatever you say and still I always love you all..^_^

Daniel 12:9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.

10 Many will be purified,
made spotless and refined, but
the wicked will continue to be wicked.
None of the wicked will understand,
but those who are wise will understand.


Matthew 28

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubte. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


Romans 1

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him,
but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

[Jake99]

Just thought I should bump it again to keep this thread in the back of the mind.

After all you did all call for God to reveal himself.

I am God's servant who you refer to as Jesus and I have been proving that as a fact every day of my life. The false prophets are all of you who claim to already be like Christ and that could not be further from the truth. You have to accept the fundamentals of Christianity to be like Christ and unfortunatly you reject every single aspect of those critical directives.

No lines on maps, dividing of land, money-changers, sellers, soldiers, gamblers, pornographers or false prophets like all of you will be allowed into the kingdom of heaven on earth. All of those actions and proffessions will be systemically eliminated from the governing system. You wont even need a Bible after you listen to and follow me because the rules of life will be written on your heart and mind.