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Jun 11th, 2005 12:41 AM #1Dead Meat
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Armageddon Is Real!!
Hi All,
Armageddon is REAL!!
But please DON'T panic. Let me explain...
Imagine scientists of 2005 capturing an ordinary everyday monkey from the jungle.
Scientists using 2005 technology speaking to that monkey in its own language saying that they were going to TRANSFORM that monkey into a HUMAN - give it a HUMAN MIND and a HUMAN BODY. It would be Armageddon - THE END OF THE WORLD for ALL apes!!
That monkey then being released back into the jungle to communicate the FACT to all of his friends and to ALL ape world.
Back to REALITY.
Imagine a person coming on this Armageddon Message Board and saying that ALL mankind are SOON about to be TRANSFORMED into a TOTALLY NEW type of being!!!
A TRANSFORMATION PROCESS called "ASCENSION" is happening NOW!!
People are experiencing what are known as ASCENSION SYMPTOMS.
Go to www.yahoo.com and type in ASCENSION SYMPTOMS.
There is NOTHING to worry about!! Remember the story of the monkey!!
The powers that be KNOW that the ASCENSION PROCESS is happening.
All is in DIVINE hands!!
LOVE,
Andyzon1
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www.ascensionlightningpath.bravehost.comLast edited by Andyzon1; Jun 11th, 2005 at 1:35 AM. Reason: submitting original message that i lost.pressed preview and it said i wasnt logged in and my entire post is GONE!!
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Jun 11th, 2005 12:45 AM #2Lady of the Banhammer Contributor
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We have had some issues with people losing typed up posts because of a switch in a few things. We're working on fixing it. :) Thank you for your patience.
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Jun 14th, 2005 5:30 AM #3
Oh christ another one of you new agers, get over yourselves, there is no such thing as ascension, these people think they are lightworkers, and are going to bring love and peace to this world, well good luck to you, you'll soon realize that your following a false religion, when none of you guys ascend! They also believe we are all related to aliens!!!
Jessica
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Jun 14th, 2005 7:39 AM #4Dead Meat
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Hi MysticalZoe!
Hi Mysticalzoe,
There is nothing I hate more than New Agers shoving their beliefs down everyones throats until you are sick and tired of hearing the mystical nonsense, and you just ignore the whole lot of it.
On the contrary, my post was written to HELP ALL PEOPLE NOW suffering with very real agonising physical symptoms.
People for whom it will not get any better, it will only get worse.
Intuitive speculations concerning the nature of the ‘Power of Evil’...
For a long time past, my life-work has been to ascertain its true nature, and to trace it to its fountain-head. I am sure that somewhere in space there is a center from which all evil emanates. ...I do not think that the power is personal, in the sense of what we know as personality. A Satan? No.
What I conceive is a sort of dark vibration, the radiation of a black sun, of a center of a malignant eons - a radiation that can penetrate like any other ray - and
perhaps more deeply.
A "Dark Radiation" that will SOON penetrate ALL on planet earth!
It is your actions and your assistance that will prevent people from entering panic mode. The big fears can be overwhelming and I mean this quite literally.
The core fears are terrifying, life and death, hell and damnation fears that rip through your being to the very core.
Spirit will need all the help it can get to minimize the number of people who enter panic mode, lose control of their body, and endanger themselves and others.
Incidentally, this loss of control is already happening to people. You can see it in the media as people armor their bulldozers and take out entire towns, as men snap with fear and go on shooting rampages, and as parents kill their children and their spouses.
Let me be perfectly clear when I say nobody wants to see anybody go into panic mode. It is critical that it proceed in a calm, controlled, and smooth manner. It will, of course, proceed in this fashion because that is what all the preparations have been about. However as automatic as it will be you have to remember that the process still depends on you. You are incarnated to help with the process and the more people that help, the smoother (and faster) it will be.
So do not be shy in getting the message out. The time for polite inactivity is over.
When your body experiences fear it can do one of two things. It can either panic and flee or freak out and lash out. Psychologists call this the “fight or flight” syndrome. However, calling the bodies aggressive response to fear a fight is a bit of a misnomer because when organisms choose to fight in conditions of great fear, it is less of a co-coordinated attack and more of a chaotic lashing out. This may
seem like a minor distinction to some psychologists but it is not. Viewing the fight or flight syndrome as the fury or flee or panic or flee syndrome will help you understand the wacky behavior (i.e., mass suicides, family murders, armor plated bulldozers taking out entire town centers, etc.) that you see happening around you as the process unfolds and people respond instinctually (i.e., without conscious control) to the fear they are manifesting.
A Planet Engulfed by Insanity--How to Cope
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle
What might possibly the purpose of our speaking this evening except those things that are relevant unto your lives, your affairs, your hearts, my dear friends, your sweet, sweet hearts.
And herein I speak of something at first herein that might rather shock you. It is a WAVE that approaches and cometh with assuredness and that WAVE has got writ large upon it the word, INSANITY.
So, my friends, I'm afraid I must give you this bad news. 'Tis good news simply because now you know which you hadn't previously. Insanity approaches your planet. Why? Simply because when you are engulfed in a fog, you seek the light intuitively. You must. It's your way out, isn't it?
So when insanity engulfs a planet and people seem to get the gist of it and sense it, they seek their sanity which is only found in their divinity. Some of you are not comfortable with that word.
Divinity. I can only attribute this to not having visited your celestial parent recently. I suggest you do so, this in your hearts and thoughts.
Dear ones, what you've seen is only the beginning, I'm afraid. Only the beginning. Expect it. Know that it cometh. It would be unrealistic to think that it won't. But know this, you'll not yourselves get caught or lost in it even though you might have temporarily slipped just a little bit as one might walk in through a large place of mud, they might slip into the pothole, doesn't mean they're drenched in the stuff. Neither should you be. Regain your balance as you can. Take a bit of leisure.
Get away from whatever it is that is stressful at the time if you're done, but more than anything, call to the Great Lords of Mind, that's what they're called, The Lords of Mind. These Great Beings shall focus the Mind of God, so shall we put it, well, I should say, metaphorically, but at the same time quite literally.
What we're saying to you friends, don't be overwhelmed by the insanity that is about to overwhelm the planet.
Know it for what it is. When it might play through you, know that as well. Be not ashamed of it neither reprimand your loved ones when they exhibit it, but help each other get through it as best as you can.
But always remember that whilst the insane are insane, always temporary, they may not know what they do and may strike out at you. So beware. Put yourself not in that position, for I tell you it can create a rift and a resentment that might take a long time to heal. Take care.
Know that this is as if some sort of plague of a very physical nature were about to, you know, strike and it should cause people to have temporary dementia, to go crazy, whatever, to throw something at you. Know that it is temporary, that it passes, and afterward you should be so happy to have your loved ones back, safe and sane, for then you should have passed through that photon belt, that is the acceleration itself that is that thing that is going cause this insanity that we already are beginning to pass through.
That, my dear friends, when it passes, and it shouldn't be so long, shall I say as time would go, as years would go, very few. Then you'll come out to a sane world. And won't that be lovely, really? You'll all be so happy, for those who insist on the insanity shall have gone with the insanity. Swept off the planet, I say.
So you see, my dears, it's one of those terrible filters I'm afraid you must all pass through and it might just get snagged on your own garments here and there and so what. You'll not get combed out, for you're not knots or tangles for you're instead the oil in the hair of your Divine Mother. Slide on through, dear ones.
Glide through the ocean of insanity.
Beware when the vipers of insanity strike at you too many times. And think not, "Oh, I can take it. I can stay around here more." Such foolishness, I'm afraid, has been rewarded by a gravestone. So, dears, don't overestimate yourselves and don't underestimate insanity. And more than anything, don't underestimate that
there is such a loving One that is always what you feel as your True Self, that is intimately taking your next breath very consciously for you, that being, which is a part of every molecule or cell, is not about to cast you away, but is putting you through the nerve of insanity, that sanity, (coming from the word sane
or sane or healthy) shall be the natural state of things as it truly is in the fourth dimension which is where we shall be when the process is complete.
God bless you, my friends.
Mysticalzoe,
I have had PERSONAL experience, that this is REAL!!!
For EXISTENCE consists of both "Heaven" and "Hell" sides, that combine to create "All That Is" - THE ULTIMATE HEAVENLY POWER OF THE "ONE"!!!
I am here to warn EVERYONE and to enable us to be MENTALLY prepared,
ahead of time!!!
VERY IMPORTANTLY - I have found the following medications essential tools in the battle against DARK FORCES INSANITY (see your Doctor about these). ...Namely, HALOPERIDOL, LORAZEPAM, and OLANZAPINE. Please print out and store this email in your FIRST AID kit for if you ever need it to safeguard yourself and your loved ones!!
When the "Dark Forces" HIT!!!
Smile and show them your
Love,
Andyzon1
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Jun 14th, 2005 9:22 AM #5
Re-named your thread so other members might have more of an idea whats going on in here ;)
Nasik is the most awesome member on AO!!!!
I've got 555-PNinja on speed dial...

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Jun 14th, 2005 9:26 AM #6
Imagine a guy coming to Armageddon Online, talking bullshit like hell, and decides us to believe his bullshit! But wait, that's happening right now! But lets not let that guy take over our lives. I don't understand the point of this thread.
It's not the age, it's the experience that matters.
Join the most retarded debate on the net:
Is the Earth flat or a sphere?
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Jun 14th, 2005 12:24 PM #7Ahhh, no need to imagine it, he(or she)'s not the 1st....
Originally Posted by nrj
MacMonkiThis is inspector Clueseau speeking on the pheune ...
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Jun 17th, 2005 11:23 AM #8
Imagine if the guy who says he is the messiah is the messiah and you turn away from him. What is lost by listening to a totally different point of view in the interest of total change. Leaders speak up even when it is not popular, in fact especially when it is not popular. The leaders who built the world system can have all the credit for how it is. I want the opportunity to lead you in how it should be, which is the opposite of how it is.
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Jun 18th, 2005 6:29 AM #9
I wasn't going to say anything, but I do have to say this, Jake get over yourself, your not a messiah, alright, i am sick of reading about your better then everyone, and no likes a boaster!
Sorry i had to say that!
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Jun 19th, 2005 12:53 PM #10
haaahhhahaha
Now I lost my mind what was those meds again I need to OD on them yea thats it.........
Now come on what the hell kinda religion is this? An why is this in this section when it should be under the religion section......
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Jun 20th, 2005 6:01 AM #11Dead Meat
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YOU are GOD
Hi All,
Nice picture DmoneyCustoms!!! Got your meds ready. Then I will begin...
In answer to your posts...
(1) THIS IS THE CORRECT section. This is A WARNING!!! It is NOT about RELIGION. This is about REAL AGONISING PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS that EVERYONE on Earth will experience - including YOU!!! - but you WILL survive them.
(2) HOW do you explain to 6 Billion people that THEY are GOD. JAKE is correct in that he REALLY is GOD!! But so are you ALL GODS - of EQUAL power to Jake. Jake
is simply realising his Divinity earlier than the rest of you. YOU are ALL SPECIAL!!
(3) Once the pain starts you will feel like the guy in the movie AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON. You will be HOWLING in pain and sensing yourself TRANSFORMING into the ONE GOD!!!
One day you will each KNOW!!! :amaz: Until then.
With LOVE,
Andyzon1.
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Jun 20th, 2005 5:03 PM #12
If you want to end up at the same destination, keep taking the same path. Pain is not something that I take lightly, in fact it is what I have focused on preventing in the work place. The only problem is that if you automate to eliminate the pains of manual labor you create the pain of stress from unemployment. I say eliminate every job you can and provide the best possible environment with the jobs that need to be done with a small work force. And cover everybodys needs so crime and worry cant ruin your world. Simple stuff verses complicated stuff. Stop stealing from each other and you wont need an army to solve problems.
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Jun 28th, 2005 1:21 AM #13
WHOOOO WHOOOO HAAAA HAAAA!!!!!!!
ME WANT BANANA!!!!!!!! WHAT HAPPEN TO ME BODY!!!!!!! WILL SOMEONE PICK BUGS OFF ME BACK?
:End sarcasim:
Man this post is great. I havent had such a great laugh in a long time. Monkeys, Gods....weee!!!! I think some of us have been doing some "Descension".
Last edited by Assassin X; Jun 28th, 2005 at 1:53 AM.
AO is about one thing. Going around in loops. No one cares to learn, they only care to live inside their boxes and ignore the truth!
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Jun 28th, 2005 8:00 AM #14
Wow Assassin and Jake.
You do not get it. That is too bad. The whole point in preparing yourself spiritually is by cleansing yourself (get rid of negatives in your life) and understanding what DEVINE INTERVENTION is. Ya gotta get with it man. Take care of yourself, tie up loose ends, for gods sakes take care of your children. Consider your actions and be prepared for whatever dismal event awaits us. Dont preach that you are gods. You know you are not. And no one is listening anyway. The elements of the earth, they are all speaking but you just dont understand. And you wont, until you get spiritually prepared (NO RELIGION SPECIFIC)
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Jun 28th, 2005 11:40 AM #15
Cant read huh? I was mocking this stupid post by saying i was a monkey.
IM a christian. I believe in GOD not in becoming one or whatever this new age crap is.
Put down the joint and repeat after Clinton:
"I did not inhale".
AO is about one thing. Going around in loops. No one cares to learn, they only care to live inside their boxes and ignore the truth!
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Jun 28th, 2005 3:17 PM #16
Would god stand by and watch you destroy this world and not send his voice in the form of a man? That is what I am, the man that he sent to stop you and turn you in the other direction before you go to the slaughter like sheep.
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Jun 28th, 2005 3:21 PM #17
nrj I would rather speak in tongues than foreign languages. How many do you post in? Looks pretty inefficient to me. The bible is written in tongues which is why you don't understand it but it is the word of god and that is how efficiently he speaks.
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Jul 10th, 2005 4:04 PM #18Dead Meat
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The Shift and The Hundredth Monkey Effect
http://www.infinitebeing.com/0507/monkeys.htm
The Shift and The Hundredth Monkey Effect
The Shift is the awakening of humanity’s heart. This transformation of consciousness, the greatest one ever recorded, first became apparent in the mid-1960s and has been building momentum ever since.
The Shift is a collective transformation consisting of the sum of each individual’s step into the New Reality. Each person, in their own time, is moving forward into a stage of consciousness which brings a wider vista and an awareness which springs from the heart. When enough people’s primary attention becomes focused through their heart chakras, then the ‘hundredth monkey effect’ will occur.
The Hundredth Monkey Effect was first introduced by biologist Lyall Watson in his 1980 book, ‘Lifetide.’ He reported that Japanese primatologists, who were studying Macaques monkeys in the wild in the 1950s, had stumbled upon a surprising phenomenon.
His book was soon followed up with a deeply inspired work by Ken Keyes in 1981, called “The Hundredth Monkey Effect.” In this, Ken Keyes made an impassioned appeal for an end to the Cold War and its policy of mutually assured destruction. Here, in the words of Ken Keyes, is a description of the key elements of the Hundredth Monkey Effect:
“The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30 years.
“In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant.
“An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers too.
“This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists.
“Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable.
“Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.
“Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes -- the exact number is not known.
“Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes.
“Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.
“Then it happened!
“By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them.
“The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!
“But notice.
“A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea –
“Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
“Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.
“Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the conscious property of these people.
“But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!”
Lyall Watson had originally researched and assembled the story from the available testimonies of the primate researchers. Because the phenomenon took the researchers so much by surprise, they had not counted how many monkeys it took to trigger this effect. So, Watson proposed an arbitrary figure of ninety-nine monkeys, and said that one more, the so-called one-hundredth monkey, would then provide the critical mass of consciousness necessary to trigger the effect.
The new behavior pattern spread to most, but not all, of the monkeys. Older monkeys, in particular, remained steadfast in their established behavior patterns and resisted change. When the new behavior pattern suddenly appeared among monkey troupes on other islands, only a few monkeys on those islands picked up on the new idea. The ones most receptive to new ideas started imitating the new behavior and demonstrating it to the impressionable younger ones. Thus, they too began their own path towards their eventual hundredth monkey effect.
How the Hundredth Monkey Effect Works
The mechanism for this transference of ideas works the same way for monkeys as it does for all sentient beings. We exist within an atmosphere of global mind. The human brain is constantly receiving and transmitting mental pictures and information to and from that mental atmosphere in which we are immersed.
The global mind, otherwise known as Jung’s collective unconscious, does not cease to function because a few skeptics don’t like its effects. It functions just like it always has, passing information from one individual to another based upon their common frequency of consciousness. If progressive monkeys had a new idea, then so did other progressive monkeys on other islands. They resonated at the same frequency of consciousness.
Inventions often occur at the same time by inventors who are not in physical contact with each other. For example, in 1941, Les Paul designed and built the first solid-body electric guitar just when Leo Fender of Fender Musical Instruments was doing exactly the same thing.
Have you ever had an idea, then seen other people express or use that idea. You probably said, “Hey! I thought of that first!” Well, that’s the way the global mind works. It’s an atmosphere that you share with all other sentient beings, but you tune in especially to the particular topics and frequencies of mind that interest you the most.
What This means to The Shift
When enough people have gone through their personal version of The Shift to the new consciousness, then a critical mass will form and suddenly everyone will become aware of the New Reality and its heart-centered values.
That is the day when heart-centered values will become the focus of everyday thinking for the vast majority of people. That is the day when humanity will begin to look back on what has changed and realize that a massive shift has occured.
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Jul 11th, 2005 11:13 AM #19Dead Meat
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Burn ALL Religious And Political Books Worldwide!
Burn ALL Religious And Political Books Worldwide!
RELIGION is "our interpretation" of GOD.
POLITICS is "our interpretation" of the way GOD wants us to live.
Experience GOD's POWER direct.
GOD is HERE NOW!
Beaming His POWER DIRECT to ALL on planet earth.
EVERYONE will soon go through a real HELL on earth.
You will soon experience directly the full universal force power of Hell.
There is nowhere left to run and nowhere left to hide.
All fear and negativity of all universes everywhere will soon enter your mind.
All individuals who survive are GOD'S PEOPLE.
All individuals who survive HELL will become GODS.
You as an alive individual will become ONE with GOD
You will become the ONE GOD.
You realise that you were always GOD but you were blinded to this by religionsand politics.
You then experience...
DIVINE UNLIMITED UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND BLISS ANDPOWER AND HAPPINESS FOREVER!Last edited by Andyzon1; Jul 11th, 2005 at 1:22 PM.
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Jul 11th, 2005 11:24 AM #20Dead Meat
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How To Survive
'Surrender and acceptance ARE the keys to inner peace. Seek peace. Be peace. Be at peace. It is your best armor against fear and your surest road into love.'
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Jul 11th, 2005 12:26 PM #21
The monkey theory of monkey see monkey do should be well known even though its the first I saw of the study. We as humans need to evolve as if the 100th monkey was the first and only one to know the way. If it makes sense, do it. I say the systems of this world do not make sense. They are a mathematical and historical failure that leads to protests, crime and wars. I don't care how many times George Bush says freedom and democracy, its just a deception. He wants to create jobs and I want to solve problems. If you solve problems you have fewer jobs and fewer problems to solve. When the basics of human needs are met without the buyers and sellers being involved you will live in peace.
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Jul 26th, 2006 2:09 PM #22Dead Meat
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Half-Human, Half-Ape - Is ALREADY a REALITY!!!!!
Half-Human, Half-Ape
By Paul Stonehill
FATE magazine - April 2005
A “chimera”—originally the fabulous Greek mythological creature with a lion’s head, a goat’s body, and a serpent’s tail—has come to mean any hybrid of two or more creatures.
Chimpanzees are believed by many scientists to be the closest relatives of humans. The genetic difference between the two species is estimated to be about 1.7 percent at the DNA level (less than that between horses and zebras). Recent progress in studies of DNA sequences, the fossil record, and brain functions support the idea that there is a sizeable gap separating chimpanzees and monkeys, but not chimpanzees and humans.
Many years ago, according to the recently declassified Soviet documents, a famous scientist tried to close the gap between Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes.
Human-Ape Hybrids
Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov was born in 1870. In 1898, he established several zoological laboratories in Moscow, where he studied the reproductive processes of farm animals. In 1901, he established the world’s first center for artificially impregnated horses. Before and after the Bolshevik revolution, Ivanov applied his practical technique to other domesticated species. Several million cattle and sheep were artificially inseminated by the mid-1930s; the Soviets needed strong animals for their monumental transformation of the economy. Ivanov also tried to preserve some endangered species using artificial insemination.
In 1927, the Russian émigré newspaper Russkoye Vremya published articles concerning shocking experiments in which Ivanov allegedly tried to artificially inseminate human and ape females with the other species’ sperm. Few people, however, believed these reports. Many in the West at the time were supporting the “progressive” Soviet Republic.
Proof came after the fall of the Soviet Union, according to Alexander Potapov, who published his research in Na Grani nevozhmozhnogo newspaper (issue 335/4, 2004). A document was discovered in the state archives of the Russian Federation reporting the findings of a special commission created in 1929 to evaluate Ivanov’s proposed anthropoid interspecies hybridization experiments. These experiments were considered to be of “great scientific importance,” and the report indicated that they were to be continued in the Sukhumi Monkey Colony, a Soviet primate center.
The hybridization experiments (the artificial insemination of human females by anthropoid sperm) were to be conducted only with the written agreement of the female. She would accept the risk and obey the required strict isolation regime. The experiments were to be conducted with all necessary safeguards, including preclusion of natural insemination. The trials were to be conducted on as many human females as possible, but in no case, fewer than five.
Why would the luminaries of Soviet science laud Ivanov’s uncanny research? According to Potapov, the Bolshevik elite wanted to destroy the belief in God, and subject nature to serve the new Soviet Man. As a former Soviet citizen myself, I can affirm that neither general ethical concerns nor Judeo-Christian beliefs would be of any interest to Soviet Marxists. Stalin, whose bloody star was rising in the crimson world of Soviet politics, would get hybrid slaves who would be completely obedient. The GULAG and its network of concentration camps would not be a necessity for the hybrids.
Ivanov and the Socialist Motherland were interested in another result of crossbreeding, referred to as hybrid vigor, or heterosis. Heterosis levels tend to be higher as a result of crossbreeding, meaning that the vigor of the hybrids is greater than that of the parental lines.
I am sure that Stalin and his henchmen would have found another use for the chimeric anthropoids designed by Ivanov. Today we call it biological warfare.
Guinea
Ivanov decided that an expedition to Africa would help him achieve the necessary results. He put in a request, and received an approval from the Soviet government. He also was given a financial support in the amount of $291,912, a huge amount of money for the impoverished Socialist state.
Ivanov believed that he would have no problems inseminating African women with chimpanzee sperm. But he was wrong. Local women refused to crossbreed with apes. The Russian scientist would not give up, and made an agreement with physicians in a local hospital to conduct the intramural hybridization experiments. The governor of the province did not object to the experiments on the condition that the patients would agree to it. But the women of Guinea categorically refused to be any part of the lurid experiments of the Soviet scientist.
Ivanov was arrested on December 13, 1930, and sentenced to a concentration camp for five years. The OGPU (the forerunner of the KGB) commuted his sentence to a five-year exile in Kazakhstan, and finally, Ivanov was released from prison in 1932. He died just a few months later, on March 20. But our story does not end here.
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Jul 26th, 2006 2:14 PM #23Dead Meat
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Continued From Above
USSR
In 1974, Belgian zoologist Bernard Heuvelmans and Soviet scientist Boris F. Porchnev published a fascinating book entitled L’homme de Néanderthal est toujours vivant. This book contains the account of a Russian doctor who escaped from the Soviet concentration camps, and in 1952 or 1953 met a trusted friend of Heuvelmans. The doctor claimed that he was arrested because he refused to obey the orders from his superiors. He was to conduct artificial insemination of Oriental women by the sperm of male gorillas. The experiments were conducted in the medical department of the Soviet forced labor camps. The doctor claimed that a race of apemen was created. They were extremely strong and covered with fur, worked tirelessly in the salt mines, and grew larger than the humans—but they could not reproduce.
Did the Soviets create an apeman in their secret labs, a creature that later escaped to be mistaken in Russia and Eurasia for a “snowman,” or a relict hominoid?
People’s Republic of China
The noted British novelist, screenwriter and director Stephen Gallagher revealed an interesting bit of information during an address given at the Wellcome Institute’s symposium on the topic “Do Artists Demonize the New Genetics?” on March 23, 1995.
Gallagher had heard of a doctor in Shenyang, in northeast China, who claimed to have achieved success with the artificial insemination of human sperm to a female chimpanzee, only to have the three-month-old fetus destroyed by Red Guards who came in and smashed up his laboratory.
Scientists in China have created embryonic chimeras, hybrid embryos that contain human and rabbit DNA. On September 7, 2001, a report in Beijing Youth Daily stated that Professor Chen Xigu in the Experimental Animal Center of Sun Yat-sen University had transferred a skin cell nucleus from a seven-year-old boy into a rabbit’s denucleated egg and created an embryo. The aim of his research, according to the paper, was to use cloning to develop cures for such illnesses as diabetes and Parkinson’s disease.
Apparently, with the growing numbers of scientists and medical centers engaged in similar experiments in China (such as the Shanghai Second Medical University), there is also a growing debate over the ethics of cross-species reprogramming.
Italy, 1987
A very interesting article, headlined “New breed of half-ape ‘slave’ thought possible,” was published in the May 14, 1987, issue of the Houston Chronicle. Brunetto Chiarelli, dean of anthropology at Florence University, claimed that he had knowledge of a secret experiment in which a chimpanzee egg was exposed to human sperm with the result that an apparently viable embryo was created. The experiment was interrupted at the embryo stage because of ethical considerations. “Scientific information is numerous but reserved. Maybe at the end of the year we will have an idea of what has been achieved,” Chiarelli said. Apparently, the cell proceeded to divide; it was the beginning of a routine developmental process that could potentially have resulted in a human-chimpanzee hybrid.
Italy, 1990s
Another fascinating document from the declassified Soviet archives confirms that noted endocrinologist Sergey Voronov conducted experiments on great apes in the 1920s. Voronov lived in a special facility in Grimaldi, Italy, a center he established known as “The Simian Castle.” This animal preserve could contain 100 animals at a time. Voronov was searching for a formula to enable him to slow down the process of aging. He also conducted experiments to increase male virility and researched organ transplantation. Voronov published a book about sexual cell transplantation from apes to humans.
Ventimiglia is a small Italian town on the Ligurian Sea and the Italian Riviera, near the French border. In nearby Grimaldi are grottoes in which prehistoric remains have been found. Strange creatures were sighted in this area in the 1990s, resembling the crossbreed of a primitive man and a gorilla. They were naked and stood two meters tall, with long hair, human-looking heads, large hypnotic eyes, and wrinkled skin.
Did Voronov create chimeric creatures whose descendants wander in the wilderness around the Italian Riviera? There is little available information about the enigmatic Russian surgeon. Did he know of Ivanov and his research? Italian sources state that the Russian scientist tried to “graft bodies of animals on human ones.”
United States
According to an article in the October 27, 2003, issue of U.S. News and World Report (“Mixing species—and crossing a line?”), U.S. scientists have placed human neural stem cells into the brains of fetal monkeys to see how well these cells formed brain tissue. The cells thrived and migrated through the brain. The experiment drew little notice at the time. Nell Royce, the author of the article, wrote that today the experiment would spark more debate.
Scientists in Advanced Cell Technology, an American biotechnology company in Massachusetts, had previously (1998) mixed human cells and cow eggs in an attempt, similar to the Chinese experiments described above, to make hybrid embryos as a source of stem cells. The genes activated and the egg began to divide in the normal way up to the 32-cell stage at which it was destroyed. According to a number of American newspapers, those experiments were not successful.
Ethical Concerns
Nowadays the use of genetic engineering raises a number of concerns. By far, the greatest public concern is over the mixing of human and animal genes. After all, both cell fusion and recombinant DNA techniques allow species barriers to be readily overcome.
Human beings are changing the world at an ever-increasing pace. New crops appear almost every day. It is certain that we will be using genetic manipulation to change life forms themselves in the coming decades. Of course, we should be more alarmed about manipulation of animals than of vegetation and microorganisms.
There is a threshold of cross-species research that must never be stepped over, lest we walk into a minefield. We must not create situations where humans make life or death decisions without reference to God. We must be cautious not to create interspecies chimeras that would be able to replace or destroy Homo sapiens.
Paul Stonehill is a California-based writer, lecturer, journalist, and television consultant. He is the author of The Soviet UFO Files (1998).
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Jul 26th, 2006 2:40 PM #24Dead Meat
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Wow, I don't really post ever, but this thread has come to a new level of lunacy.
Jake, you are not god, not jesus, and never will be. Jesus does not post on armageddon online forums. Jesus does not fire arrows at people in courthouses. If Jesus did fire an arrow in a courthouse, he would be in prison getting raped.
Andy. There is no ascension religion. The pain people are in is called PAIN. It's what happens when you're sick or have an injury, or are in emotional turmoil. It doesn't mean you're going to another dimension.
I don't get where people come up with this stuff from. It's even worse than scientology.
It's pretty much as if some dude on lsd one day comes up with the idea that we're all going to become butterflies in 2014, and everyone believes him. Yet there is absolutely NO evidence, NO proof, and NO logic.
Yeah, and I have a 26 inch cock that wraps around my thigh three times. I can also fly and teleport at will. I cured cancer, but decided that I would let the big companies find the cure first since they needed the money. By the way, I'm the queen of England as well.After years of studying and thinking about things, I've come to the conclusion that evil comes from one source in the cosmos. A sort of "dark star" radiating through all of us
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Jul 26th, 2006 2:51 PM #25
(you said it all) No...wait... whats this I hear coming? May it be another bullshit post coming after just repeating itself again?
Science doesn't have all of the answers... otherwise it wouldn't be science.
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