Dog revival from 1940!!!

[DaSoviet]

Don't have much info on this, but the video shows Russian scientists of the formerr U.S.S.R reviving cells in different parts. It is a bit graphic for the faint hearted as it shows hearts, lungs and a severed head come back to life.

http://www.archive.org/stream/Experi...1940_256kb.mp4

If they could do this in the 1940's, what the hell can they do now?!?!?!

PS: Sorry to anyone who is shocked by this video, or to anybody who finds it distasteful. I mean no offence to anyone at all and am a dog lover myself.

[Keeblergiant]

This is stupid. All they are doing is putting mechanical energy into the organisms and making them move again. They aren't bringing any animals back from the dead or anything similar...they're just pumping the heart artificially. Nothing fancy. You could do it in your own home with a few liquid pumps and a heart. With the head, all they have to do is pump electricity into the various muscles when an external machine detects the light or sound. They can't actually revive the dead from the dead, however, because that would require the revival and regeneration of the neural networks of the dead, and that is currently not possible (however, it may become possible in the future due to stem cells with the ability to differentiate into neurons).

[DaSoviet]

Glad to see its appreciated...

[RavenWhitefang]

A few things come to mind here...H.P Lovecraft - The Reanimator and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.

[DaSoviet]

You psychic? Those were the things that inspired me!

[DarkAce]

Just bury them in the Pet Cemetary...

[liberdave]

This is stupid. All they are doing is putting mechanical energy into the organisms and making them move again.

Well, when does a dog's nervous system NOT consist of mechanical energy? The point here is since a dog is not sentient, we have nothing to gauge "life" off of.

They aren't bringing any animals back from the dead or anything similar

yes, they did. By empirical evidence
a) The dog was alive
b) The dog was then dead
c) Then after that, the dog was alive

With the head, all they have to do is pump electricity into the various muscles when an external machine detects the light or sound.

Right, but they were showing brain functions. Those nervous reactions weren't coming from an outside source.

They can't actually revive the dead from the dead, however, because that would require the revival and regeneration of the neural networks of the dead, and that is currently not possible .

But the neural networks of a dog are probably a lot less complicated than a human's.(from my limited knowledge of both canine and human nervous systems) And, even though the degradation of the body starts instantly, wouldn't 10 minutes be negligible? Well, I say negligible, I know i'd lose a lot of mental capacities while flatlined for 10 min. But exponentially for a dog, the loss would be negligible.

[Keeblergiant]

Well, when does a dog's nervous system NOT consist of mechanical energy?

Actually the nervous system does not run off of mechanical energy.

yes, they did. By empirical evidence
a) The dog was alive
b) The dog was then dead
c) Then after that, the dog was alive

The dog wasn't alive. They were just using electrical impulses and mechanical energy to make the dog appear to be alive.

Right, but they were showing brain functions. Those nervous reactions weren't coming from an outside source.

And you know this how? I could go cut of a dogs head right now, implant electrode emitters in it's brain, hook them up to two microphones, and have the dogs eyes move in the direction of the microphone that detects external sound first. Just because you can't see the outside sources in the video doesn't mean they weren't there. It's impossible for something that has been brain dead to come back to life, because all of the neurons in the brain will die (unless you utilize stem cells to differentiate into neurons).

But the neural networks of a dog are probably a lot less complicated than a human's.(from my limited knowledge of both canine and human nervous systems) And, even though the degradation of the body starts instantly, wouldn't 10 minutes be negligible? Well, I say negligible, I know i'd lose a lot of mental capacities while flatlined for 10 min. But exponentially for a dog, the loss would be negligible.

Yes, our neural networks are much more complex than that of a dog. But my point still remains, because dogs still utilize the same neuronal system we do (which is one reason we can test drugs on animals). Once a neuron is dead, it's dead. You can't bring it back.

[DontBeAfraid]

KG you didnt watch the whole video. The first dog head was brought back to "life" before the brain died. Did you not see it lick its lips? The second dog was not decapitated, its blood was drained until its heart stopped and it stopped breathing. only 10 minutes elapsed before they began artificial circulation which was continued until its heart and breathing returned to normal.

[liberdave]

The dog wasn't alive. They were just using electrical impulses and mechanical energy to make the dog appear to be alive.

Right, but define "alive", to me the dog seemed alive.

And you know this how? I could go cut of a dogs head right now, implant electrode emitters in it's brain, hook them up to two microphones, and have the dogs eyes move in the direction of the microphone that detects external sound first. Just because you can't see the outside sources in the video doesn't mean they weren't there. It's impossible for something that has been brain dead to come back to life, because all of the neurons in the brain will die (unless you utilize stem cells to differentiate into neurons).

What about people who technically "die", or totally flatline, then get brought back? Yes the brain has "ceased to function" yet, it works later.
But, yes, these movie clips did not empirically prove wether or not the dog had brain activity or not by these definitions...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_death

Yes, our neural networks are much more complex than that of a dog. But my point still remains, because dogs still utilize the same neuronal system we do (which is one reason we can test drugs on animals). Once a neuron is dead, it's dead. You can't bring it back.

Again, my flatline argument. It can still function even after massive neuron death.