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Aug 15th, 2005 6:09 AM #1Dead Meat
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If you met 1 of the 2 witnesses, how would you know?
since god invented the integers, lets let them speak for themselves. and this is assumning it was before the tribulation cuz then you will definitely know who they are.
first, final correlated date for natalee holloway is 8/30
this is of course before the start of the tribulation. since god invented the integers, let them speak for themselves.
HyperQube's Blog on the two witnesses
this is nothing new but since most probably skipped over it.
also 8/30 is the final correlated date for natalee holloway
if you were to meet a witness, just exactly how would you know?
Revelation 11:3-5 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
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The sum for the word « saigon » of length 6 is 390.
The sum for the word « florida » of length 7 is 390.
The sum for the word « jimmy » of length 5 is 420.
The sum for the word « maurice » of length 7 is 420.
The sum for the word « jesus » of length 5 is 444.
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Latitude:, 27° 58', North. Longitude:, 82° 38
27 58
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109 96
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110 36
110 + 36 = 146
prime factors 146
2 * 73
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HO CHI MINH, VIETNAM (saigon)
10 46 N 106 43 E
10 46
106 43
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116 - 89
117 - 29
117 + 29 = 146
prime factors 146
2 * 73
There are 67 completed pyramids
The original height of the pyramid was 146 meters; today it is 137 meters high.
Isaiah 19:19
In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.
Date Stuff_____________________________________________ __________
On 12/31/2011 I will be 14049 days old or 2007 weeks or 38 years
Maurice will turn 29 on that day his birthday
7/14 is the 195th day of the year
12/31 is the 365th day of the year
He will be 29 on that day
38 reduces to 11 (3+8)
29 reduces to 11 (2+9)
1111
Revelation 11:11
And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
1111 in binary is equal to 15 or 3(5) or 3.5
There are 3457 days between 7/14/1973 and 12/31/1982
There are 3457 years between the exodus in 1446 bc and 2011
Genesis 1:1). That's the way it comes out in English, in the Hebrew it's exactly 7 words. The 7 words have exactly 28 (4x7) letters. There are 3 nouns (God, heavens, and earth). Taking the letters of these, substituting their number equivalents and adding them up, you get a combined total of 777 (111x7)! There is one Hebrew verb--created. It's total numerical value is 203 (29x7). The first three words contain the subject with exactly 14 (2x7) letters, likewise the other four are the object with exactly 14 letters. The Hebrew words for the two objects (heaven and earth) each have 7 letters. The value for the first, middle, and last letters in the sentence is 133 (19x7). The numeric value of the first and last letters of all the words is 1393 (199x7); the value of the first and last letters of the first and last words of the verse is 497 (71x7). The value of the first and last letters of EACH of the words between is 896 (128x7). And so on, and so on ... in this version alone there are 30 different features of 7. I have listed only 11 of them! The chance of this happening accidently is 1 in 33,000,000,000,000 (33 trillion).
And now an example from the New Testament: Mat 1:1-11. The vocabulary has 49 words (7x7). 28 words begin with a vowel (4x7), the remaining 21 (3x7) with a consonant. 7 end with a vowel. 42 (6x7) with a consonant. The 49 (7x7) words have 266 letters (38x7). Out of the 266 letters, 140 (20x7) are vowels, 126 (18x7) are consonants. Also, of these 49 words, 14 (2x7) occur only once. 35 (5x7) occur more than once. 42 (6x7) are nouns, 7 are not. These remaining common nouns have exactly 49 (7x7) letters. Male names occur in all 56 (8x7) times. The names of only 3 women appear in the passage, and the Greek letters of their names add up to 14 exactly!
Revelation 11:2
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
112= 8 * 14
The court which is without the temple, i.e., the time of the gentiles. Now forty and two months. Most assume this is 42. however, notice forty and two.
Remember the 0 as a placeholder in gematria.
402
Some Date Correlation_______________________________________ ________
From 09/11/1609 to 12/31/2011 is 146938 days.
146938 day = 402.569863 year
Henry Hudson first landed on the island of manhattan on 9/11/1609Code:14 69 38 14 15 38 29 38
Also realize that the true birthdate of jesus was 9/11/-3
The sign. Only one concorde crashed killing 113 people.
The 113th space shuttle flight blew up
11/3 in spain or 3/11 written in the euro styles dd/mm
Know that there are exactly 911 days between 9/11 and 11/3
7/14/2008 to 12/27/2011 is 1260 days
12/27/2011 to 12/31/2011 is 3.5 days
Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Revelation 11:9
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Revelation 11:13
And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Ok, now we will take a trip down the prime number line
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38 + 29 = 67
67 is the 19th prime number
19 representing the first and the last
8 15 19
8+15+19=42
42 is also equal to 6 x 7
Maurice born on Friday the sixth day of the week
I being born on Saturday the seventh day of the week
The 67th prime number is 331. which is maurice’s dads birthday
2221 is the 331st prime number.
Notice that 331 reduces to 7 as well as 2221
Now the 2221st prime number is 19577
Where 7/14 is the 195th day of the year.
The last verse in the bible is
Revelation 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Daniel 7:14
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
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Aug 15th, 2005 6:10 AM #2Dead Meat
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Some Notable Examples of 7/14__________________________________________
Gerald Rudolph Ford, the 38th President of the United States, was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr., the son of Leslie Lynch King and Dorothy Ayer Gardner King, on July 14, 1913,
Babe Ruth home run records 714 which stood for 38 years
Code:#1 485659 7141973 485660 7141991 485661 7142011
Code:#2 807194 12311983 807195 12311989 807196 12312011
807196-485661 = 321535
807195-485660 = 321535
807194-485659 = 321535
We each have 3 prime birthdays spaced exactly the same distance apart.
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Zechariah 14:7 [/B]
But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
7/14/2011 is the 147th prime number in the form of 714xxxx where the first is 7140011
The difference between the first and the last is equal to 2000
Also the first year is 3996 and till 2011 is 6007 years
However, 12/31/2011 is not the end of time. It is the last day before the millennial reign of the antichrist.
The last day is 7/14/3007 which is the 209th prime number in the form of 714xxxx
actually -3 years so 7007 years all in all.
Realize there is no millennial reign of Christ on earth. What would be the point? This is the time of the great delusion sent to the world
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
From 3996 bc to 3007 ad are in total 7003 years.
Now , pattern recognition is very important.
That is why earth the third planet out and the seventh in
And I being born in 73
The Gematrical value of genesis 1:1 is 2701 which is equal to
i refer you back to the 1973 blog. :banthumbs:
Sura 19 the chapter which deals with the birth of jesus notice the 19 which I have already mentioned is also a hyperdimensional number ie 19.5
019.001 Kaf, Ha, Ya, 'Ain, Sad.
Al-Qur'an, 019.001 (Maryam [Mary])
Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.9
Certain chapters have initialed titles
They are called the seven pairs of Quranic initials
Chapter 19 has the longest initial composed of 5 letters having a Gematrical value equal to 195 the 195th day of the year
Chapter 19 is further composed of 98 verses
Which is equal to 7 x 14
019.001 Kaf, Ha, Ya, 'Ain, Sad.
019.002 (This is) a recital of the Mercy of thy Lord to His servant Zakariya.
019.003 Behold! he cried to his Lord in secret,
019.004 Praying: "O my Lord! infirm indeed are my bones, and the hair of my head doth glisten with grey: but never am I unblest, O my Lord, in my prayer to Thee!
019.005 "Now I fear (what) my relatives (and colleagues) (will do) after me: but my wife is barren: so give me an heir as from Thyself,-
019.006 "(One that) will (truly) represent me, and represent the posterity of Jacob; and make him, O my Lord! one with whom Thou art well-pleased!"
019.007 (His prayer was answered): "O Zakariya! We give thee good news of a son: His name shall be Yahya: on none by that name have We conferred distinction before."
019.008 He said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son, when my wife is barren and I have grown quite decrepit from old age?"
019.009 He said: "So (it will be) thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: I did indeed create thee before, when thou hadst been nothing!'"
019.010 (Zakariya) said: "O my Lord! give me a Sign." "Thy Sign," was the answer, "Shall be that thou shalt speak to no man for three nights, although thou art not dumb."
019.011 So Zakariya came out to his people from him chamber: He told them by signs to celebrate Allah's praises in the morning and in the evening.
019.012 (To his son came the command): "O Yahya! take hold of the Book with might": and We gave him Wisdom even as a youth,
019.013 And piety (for all creatures) as from Us, and purity: He was devout,
019.014 And kind to his parents, and he was not overbearing or rebellious.
019.015 So Peace on him the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life (again)!
019.016 Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.
019.017 She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
019.018 She said: "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."
019.019 He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
019.020 She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"
Al-Qur'an, 019.011-020 (Maryam [Mary])
Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.9
Hyperdimensional physics
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At 19.5 degrees latitude n and south throughout the solar system hyperdimensional effects are noticed
On earth the Hawaiian islands
Mars Olympus mons the largest volcano in the solar system
The sun sunspots only occur at these latitudes
The great read spot of Jupiter.
Also notice that 38 is 2 x 19 or 2 complete cycles of 19. also being a metatonic cycle in which the sun , earth , and moon all come back into alignment.
On the 911__________________________________________________ _______
Genesis 11:9
Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Genesis 9:11
And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
Exodus 9:11
And the magicians could not stand before Moses because of the boils; for the boil was upon the magicians, and upon all the Egyptians.
Exodus 11:9
And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you; that my wonders may be multiplied in the land of Egypt.
Job 1:19
And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
Zechariah 11:9
Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
Daniel 9:11
Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
Amos 9:11
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Ecclesiastes 11:9
Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.
Ezekiel 11:9
And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you.
Ezekiel 11:19
And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Isaiah 11:9
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
I refer you back to Isaiah 19:19 concerning enoch’s pillar which is actually the pyramid of cheops.
19+19 = 38
Ask yourself this. Why, if everything the Egyptians built was based on the Egyptian Cubit was the Great Pyramid of Giza based on the Hebrew Sacred Cubit? There's only one answer, the Egyptians didn't design the Great Pyramid of Giza.
THE CHRONOLOGY OF THE PYRAMID
The Great Pyramid has been called "the Bible in stone" because its passage systems reveal geometrically, in line and symbol, the same profound spiritual truths and plan of salvation specific to the Bible, as will be seen as this study unfolds. And just as there are time prophecies of significance in the Bible, the Pyramid's silent geometry reveals a remarkable chronography, prophetic time in stone.
The challenge to deciphering the prophetic scale is deciphering what measure of length equals what measure of time. The key to this scale is given in the Pyramid, in the upper horizontal passage system's first ante-chamber, in what is known as "Enoch's circle." Enoch was translated when he was 365 years old. A circle is a symbol of eternity and Enoch thus "entered eternity" at 365. The circle formed in that first antechamber, defined by the floor and the two hanging walls measures 365.25 inches.
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Aug 15th, 2005 6:11 AM #3Dead Meat
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The Pyramid speaks with geometry, not words
While being the oldest structure on the face of the earth, the Great Pyramid is the most accurately oriented, being laid out almost exactly due north, south, east, and west. Modern man's best effort, the Paris Observatory, is six minutes of a degree off true north. The Great Pyramid is only three minutes deviant and E. Raymond Capt claims that is due mainly to subsidence. Many architects and engineers who have studied the Pyramid's structure contend that, with all our vaunted technological prowess, we could not build the structure today.
The Pyramid is at the earth's center
Gematria is the science of finding meaning in the numerical value of words. In the Hebrew language each individual letter has a numerical value. Thus every word has the numerical value of the sum of the value of its letters. If one adds up the numerical value of all the Hebrew characters in the Great Pyramid text the value is 5449. This is the height in inches of the Great Pyramid!
The ancient Egyptians called it the "Pillar of Enoch". Enoch's "fingerprint's" are all over it. Did you ever wonder why Enoch lived 365 years? The same number of days in our solar year. More precisely if you go to the Apocryphal book of Enoch, he lived 365 years 88 days and 9 hours. Or 365.242 years. You see, God had it planned that way. He made Enoch live the exact length of our solar year and then he took him. But Where? Normally you could express someone's life from birth to death with a straight line. But with Enoch you can't. His line would be a circle and if you take 365.242 years and reduced them to sacred inches you get the Enoch circle. This same circle can be measured in the Anti-chamber within the King's chamber complex. It is a "Map" room that gives you the key to interpreting the whole message in the Pyramid. One inch equals one year, as in Enoch's life.
Genesis 5:21-24 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, "and was not found, because God had taken him"; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Jude 1:14-15 [14] Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [15] to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
We first learn of Enoch in Genesis 5 but it leaves us with questions. Hebrews 11 has the answers and Jude quotes Enoch! How did Jude come to know the words of Enoch? They are not in the Bible. The answer of course, is The Book of Enoch. A book which is actually quoted by Jude in the New Testament. What is the Book of Enoch and where did it come from?
The 365 day of the year is 12/31
Shortest verse in the bible
Shortest verse: John 11:35 (2 words: "Jesus wept").
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1135 = 5 x 227
22/7 is the universal fractional approximation for pi equal to 3.14285714
Where you will find my birthday on the end
Also , N which makes up 77 percent of the atmosphere having atomic number 7 and atomic weight 14.0067 and being in group 15 or 3 fives
Jimmy allen lewis
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Even the two teeth that cracked are at position 19 and 30 added = 49 or seven sevens
The birth of Jesus set as a marker for the end of the world
1- We know that between the birth of Jesus and the birth of Muhammad there is 570 years. 570 = 19 x 30
The numbers 19 and 30 are very significant within the miracle of the Quran. We know that the code of the Quran 19 is mentioned in verse 30 (Sura 74).
The gematrical values of "The Seven Pairs" of Quranic Initials total 1709
the start of the 3.5 days and end of the 1260 daysCode:Moon: rise, transit, and set times, UT - 5, 40°47'N, 73°58'W Rise Transit Set ------- ------- ------- 2011-12-27 09:11 14:35 20:07
Im not sure if you heard about the collapsed wall in new york the day before yesterday.Code:Sun: rise, transit, and set times, UT - 5, 40°47'N, 73°58'W Twilight: civil Twilight Twilight Begins Rise Transit Set Ends ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- 2011-12-27 06:48 07:19 11:57 16:35 17:06 28 06:48 07:19 11:57 16:35 17:06 29 06:49 07:20 11:58 16:36 17:07 30 06:49 07:20 11:58 16:37 17:08 31 06:49 07:20 11:59 16:38 17:09
Well sign o things to come . it was 2424 days before 12/31
Also the tsunami of 12/26/2004 was 2520 days before 12/31 that is two cycles of 1260
Did you know that from the blackout of new york on 7/14/1977 to 9/11/2001 is 1260.714 weeks
38 x 38 = 1444
38 x 29 = 1102(2011)
Someone was attempting a deception when you thought my birthday was 6/26 trying to keep me from finding out the 7s
Remember 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7vials
There is a lot more , but probably enough for you right now.
Oh yeah the coordinates of Jerusalem add up to
66 degrees 60 minutes which is equal to 67 degrees
However, this is the time of the gentiles. Thus new york. On a wing of the temple. Scheduled completion date of the next tower to baal
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Aug 15th, 2005 7:05 AM #4Lepton Boson Muon Guy Contributor
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ow, all that stretching to make coincidences fit into a pattern. you need to get a girlfriend, sir...
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I would know the witness by what he said.
The witnesses written about in the Scriptures have a job to do.
The prophets told us what they would say, what they would wear, were they would be, what to look for.
Would you like to know how I know?
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Oops...where's Natalie? Haha, too bad...I was ready to become a Christian again if this thing were true.
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Sep 7th, 2005 6:44 PM #7
Yeah, if I remember correctly, hyperqube predicted that Natalie Holloway would return on July 13th. Not surprisingly, that prediction didn't come true. And then the date got pushed back a couple of more days, and so on and so on and so on... The phrase "beating a dead horse" comes to mind...
Notice how hyperqube has pulled a vanishing act on the forums since his "prediction" didn't come true?Last edited by B.NyeTheUruk-Hai; Sep 7th, 2005 at 6:49 PM.
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Jun 22nd, 2010 1:39 AM #8
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Jun 22nd, 2010 10:11 AM #9
Well, they'll be on TV, at least when they're dead and lying in the streets.

"He who calls on the name of the Lord, shall be saved."
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Jun 22nd, 2010 11:28 AM #10
The two will be prophets sent to Israel and they will operate during the 42 month [second 1260 days of the 70th week] rule over Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount by satan's beast ..... right in his face
How could anyone miss this demonstration of supernatural power
Revelation
11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11:11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
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Jun 22nd, 2010 12:46 PM #11
The two witnesses will be all over the world. No real need of TV when their dead corpses will be everywhere.
The two witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth [revelation 11:4]
Then I asked the angel, "What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?" Again I asked him, "What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?" He replied, "Do you not know what these are?" "No, my lord," I said. So he said, "These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth." [Zachariah 4:11-14]
Now, is there only 2 anointed persons who serve the Lord of all the earth ?
Of course not. The 2 witnesses are more than 2 persons.
They are 2 olive trees and 2 lampstands.
Romans 11:24 says that there was one wild olive tree :the Gentiles and one cultivated tree : the Jews.
These two anointed witnesses are those who have been cleansed from sin and anointed of the Holy Spirit. They are the Jews and the Gentiles who form One body.
Ephesians 2:11-22 says that Gentiles who were far away have been brought near though the blood of Christ , just like those who were near. God making One new man , both have access to the Father by One Spirit, in him all are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
They :
1/ keep the commandments of God, and
2/ have the testimony of Jesus Christ. [see revelation 12]
The two witnesses have their sins blotted out and their shame is not more. That is why they can witness ! By the Holy Spirit of Truth and Grace.
the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:
And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning. [John 15:26-27]
Here am I, and the children the LORD has given me. We are signs and symbols in Israel from the LORD Almighty, who dwells on Mount Zion. [Isaiah 8:18]
“And this is my covenant with them,” says the Lord. “My Spirit will not leave them, and neither will these words I have given you. They will be on your lips and on the lips of your children and your children’s children forever. I, the Lord, have spoken! [Isaiah 59:20-21]
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Jun 22nd, 2010 1:03 PM #12
debonnaire,
Not contending with you, but I would say that there are only two prophets [witnesses] .... both Israelite
[satan will also have two false prophets on the earth at the time .... the second beast of Revelation has two horns ..... this will be his counter against the Lord's two witnesses .... these two will lead the cult of the first beast [Revelation 13]
Their description does not tell of more
Most tribulation believers will be martyred by the time these two serve
Revelation 12 is not a picture of the church, but of a believing mortal remnant of national Israel
Satan's beast will invade Israel and this remnant part will flee into the Jordanian wilderness for protection by the Lord
There will also be believing Israelites residing in the nations at the time and when the beast cannot reach those who flee Judea, he will hunt the balance on the earth [Matthew 24:14-15; Zechariah 14:4-5; Luke 21; Revelation 12:6; 12:14]
A very strange time on the earth for sure ..... no precedent
The battle will not only be human, but angelic in scope .... satan will be on the earth with his minions
And the Lord's dealing with him will be supra-human .... the world has never seen the likes of what is going to take placeLast edited by Truth Files; Jun 22nd, 2010 at 2:22 PM.
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Jun 22nd, 2010 2:38 PM #13
and how do you come to the conclusion that 2 horns = 2 individuals
(and not 2 religions by example ) ?
and how is it christians have been told that the 2 witnesses = 2 individuals when the scriptures do not expressely say that (and on the opposite the whole council of God tends to say that they are 2 groups of individuals ) ?
maybe they have watched too much the "left behind series" or something ?
Are we waiting for super heroes ? Are we still in the O.T with Moses and Elijah or Enoch ?
No wonder it is written there will be false christs and false prophets ( more than 2 ), it is certain that a part of these false prophets will think they are one of the two, because they believe that the prophets are 2 individuals when the scriptures do not even say this.
Moses himself said : "would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them !" (Numbers 11)
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Jun 22nd, 2010 2:53 PM #14This White House photograph is made available for publication by news organizations or personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House.
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Jun 22nd, 2010 3:26 PM #15
Debonnaire asked:"
"and how do you come to the conclusion that 2 horns = 2 individuals
(and not 2 religions by example ) ?"
>10 horns on the first beast [Abaddon Apollyon] are are 10 human political kings [Daniel 7; Revelation 17]
>There are 2 horns on the second beast .... the false prophet
>Both beasts are fallen angelics who will do satan's bidding on the earth
>These beasts are not human
>The 2 horns on the second beast will be 2 human religious clerics .... Islam will be the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon
..... looking like a "lamb" [religion of peace], but speaking like a "dragon"
>Look at Islam carefully .... exactly what is presented .... touting "peace", but "death" to all infidels who will not submit to Allah [a cover name for satan]
>Satan is the "dragon" will will give his power and authority to Abaddon-Apollyon [Revelation 13:1-4]
>The 11th horn of the set is the little horn of Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-12; 8:23-25; 11:36-45; 12:7], a human king of the northern Middle East ..... this horn will be incarnated by the beast from the abyss, Abbadon-Apollyon ..... he will become the beast by possession
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