11:11 Revisited

**repentantsinner** · Sep 23rd, 2005 9:51 AM

In another thread i posted that the rapture and (second coming?) would occur 2595 days after the confirming "of the covenant with many". Personally i believe it could be December 21 2012. I got 2595 days from 7 years plus 40 days.( Genesis 7:4) Could we then count 7 years 40 days backwards from December 21 2012 to find out when the tribulation begins? December 21 2012 -7 yeaRS = dECEMBER 21 2005. SUBTRACT THE 21 DAYS OF December 40 - 21 =19. So from the end of November we subtract 19 days. 30 - 19 = 11. November 11th. 7 years and 40 days from December 21 2012 = November 11 2005. November is the 11th month, so November 11 = 11:11. Millions of people around the world are seeing 11:11 on clocks. I started seeing it when i began believing the bible. Could 11:11 on clocks be a warning about the start of the 7 yearr tribulation? There is also something else significant.The 7 year tribulation will come when the majority of the world is crying "peace and safety". 11:11, or November 11th is the date that the first world war ended. What if a peace treaty is signed November 11 2005, people will celebrate all the more on the aniversery of the end of the "war to end all wars " I do NOT have a "thus sayeth the lord" on this but the pieces seem to fit. In order for this to happen there must very shortly be a brief but violent war in the middle east. Time will tell, but it just might be later than we think.

***Mezurashi*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 9:54 AM

what was the name of that woman you were waiting for? or was that you?

and wasn't Armageddon supposed to have been about 4 - 5 years ago?

and, really, isn't there something better to do with math skills?

***nrj*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 10:31 AM

Repentant sinner, let me say it like this way: the number 253 is evil. If you double it, it will become 506. Ok, and now add the number of my grandfather: 65. Now we have 566. Ok, and this might be farfetched, but what if we would add the number of bishops in the Church of Sweden, since they are messengers of god. that's 112. Now we have 683. Ok, but what if we could just subtract the life time of Jesus? 658. Ok, and if we would add the number of bullshit prophecies I can think of and have been proven wrong: 8. Well, my good friend, now we have 666. See? The number of 253 is evil! The rapture will occur at the year 253 A.D! Oh my god!!!

***Philosopher Foelhe*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 10:37 AM

*sigh* Y'know how people complain about taking God's name in vain? Sometimes I wanna smack someone in the nose for taking Mathematics' name in vain.

Repentsinner, numbers add up. It's what they do. Take enough random numbers and string them together, you'll get whatever you want to get.

In order for this to happen there must very shortly be a brief but violent war in the middle east.

... As opposed to all the other brief but violent wars in the Middle East?

***Assassin X*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 1:54 PM

Ermm... God said no one would know the date and time or something like that. Theres no "Uber Hidden" secret dates in the bible. Anyways I would think that if a all powerful being that is a ,well, infifnitly more smarter then us wanted to hide a date in some secret riddle on the bible I think it would be a little harder then even for a some Genius to find let alone a guy at some forum.

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 4:39 PM

Originally Posted by nrj

Repentant sinner, let me say it like this way: the number 253 is evil. If you double it, it will become 506. Ok, and now add the number of my grandfather: 65. Now we have 566. Ok, and this might be farfetched, but what if we would add the number of bishops in the Church of Sweden, since they are messengers of god. that's 112. Now we have 683. Ok, but what if we could just subtract the life time of Jesus? 658. Ok, and if we would add the number of bullshit prophecies I can think of and have been proven wrong: 8. Well, my good friend, now we have 666. See? The number of 253 is evil! The rapture will occur at the year 253 A.D! Oh my god!!!

WOW!!! That was amazing, nrj!!! We're DOOMED!!!

Originally Posted by Philosopher Foelhe

*sigh* Y'know how people complain about taking God's name in vain? Sometimes I wanna smack someone in the nose for taking Mathematics' name in vain.

Heh heh... Descartes-dammit!!!

**repentantsinner** · Sep 23rd, 2005 5:14 PM

Originally Posted by nrj

Repentant sinner, let me say it like this way: the number 253 is evil. If you double it, it will become 506. Ok, and now add the number of my grandfather: 65. Now we have 566. Ok, and this might be farfetched, but what if we would add the number of bishops in the Church of Sweden, since they are messengers of god. that's 112. Now we have 683. Ok, but what if we could just subtract the life time of Jesus? 658. Ok, and if we would add the number of bullshit prophecies I can think of and have been proven wrong: 8. Well, my good friend, now we have 666. See? The number of 253 is evil! The rapture will occur at the year 253 A.D! Oh my god!!!

nrj you surprise me, i thought you were not a believer. Looking at your addition and subtraction it obvious you take quite a "leap of faith" to get the answers you do.

***Beatnik Bob*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 5:20 PM

In truth.......GOD SHOULD HAVE COME BACK THIRTY MINUTES AGO, BECAUSE THATS WHEN I BERNT THE FOOD IN THE OVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Now that’s an armageddon.

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 9:10 PM

Originally Posted by Beatnik Bob

In truth.......GOD SHOULD HAVE COME BACK THIRTY MINUTES AGO, BECAUSE THATS WHEN I BERNT THE FOOD IN THE OVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

Jake wouldn't have burned the food...

***Beatnik Bob*** · Sep 23rd, 2005 9:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Nye The Uruk-Hai

Jake wouldn't have burned the food.

Damn you Jake! Curses upon you! Where is that Fake when you need him!!

He did work at a bakery didn't he? That's why he's a messiah...........God just looooooooooooooooooves bread.

***nrj*** · Sep 24th, 2005 3:15 AM

Originally Posted by repentantsinner

nrj you surprise me, i thought you were not a believer. Looking at your addition and subtraction it obvious you take quite a "leap of faith" to get the answers you do.

You are aware that I just made up that equation, since I think this is total bullshit?

**salvador** · Sep 24th, 2005 5:40 AM

Originally Posted by Assassin X

...if a all powerful being that is a ,well, infifnitly more smarter then us wanted to hide a date in some secret riddle on the bible I think it would be a little harder then even for a some Genius to find let alone a guy at some forum.

Don't forget, Einstein was once just a guy at some forum. Ditto Darwin.

**repentantsinner** · Sep 24th, 2005 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by nrj

You are aware that I just made up that equation, since I think this is total bullshit?

Yes, and your sardonic humor provided for a good laugh. Reference was made to your math skills, not the gist of your post. Hey filo-sopher do you really think i posted that in "MATH's"name?

**repentantsinner** · Sep 24th, 2005 12:32 PM

For my 300th post i will pose a challenge to all the debunkers, scoffers, unbelievers and mockers. In the original post in this thread there is an error that most likely blows the idea out of the water. Are any of you sharp enough to find it?

***Philosopher Foelhe*** · Sep 24th, 2005 12:45 PM

Hey filo-sopher do you really think i posted that in "MATH's"name?

Even worse. You used mathematics' good name like it was a two-dollar whore. And nice use on my name. Filo-sopher? Clever, I guess, in some bizarre way which apparently refuses to conform to the English language.

In the original post in this thread there is an error that most likely blows the idea out of the water. Are any of you sharp enough to find it?

Well, you counted back 2595 days and forgot Leap Year. So technically it would be November 12. Of course, you also used a completely normal time to "show" that the end of the world was coming, so pointing out a single flaw in your idea is like shooting an arrow into a lava flow.

**repentantsinner** · Sep 24th, 2005 2:57 PM

Yes your right, 2006 and 2010 will both be leap years. You caught that quickly philosopher foehle.

***Philosopher Foelhe*** · Sep 24th, 2005 3:01 PM

... Actually, I think 2008 and 2012 will be Leap Years. Not 2006 and 2010. Just a small nitpick.

***nrj*** · Sep 24th, 2005 4:16 PM

Ok... I'm talking for death ears here, but get on with you're life. Really. On November 12, my cousin turns 15, so I will pretty much go out, get some booze and get laid (If it's a nice evning). You know why? Because I can, and will be able to do so. You can sit and wait the whole day if you want to, but I can bet my watch nothing's gonna happen. Nothing. Sure, it's very likely an earthquake or anything happens, but not the rapture. We'll see who's right.

***Mezurashi*** · Sep 25th, 2005 7:32 AM

Originally Posted by repentantsinner

Yes your right, 2006 and 2010 will both be leap years. You caught that quickly philosopher foehle.

your sig says something about stupid sheep -- read it, look in the mirror and realize that the best jokes are those thought out and planned.

numerology is as meaningful as astrology (and now I duck to avoid the flying debris, lmao).

***B.NyeTheUruk-Hai*** · Sep 25th, 2005 12:11 PM

repentantsinner, you are just being paranoid. We just watched "Bowling For Columbine" last night (side note - HOLY SHIT, the U.S. is seriously fucked up) and Michael Moore did a good job of demonstrating how Bush and the American media have the entire country paranoid about everything. The fact is, for the past several years, crime has DECREASED yearly in the States. But because of Bush (side note - will somebody PLEASE wipe that shit-eating smirk off his face?) and the media, there is a perception in America that crime is running rampant. And because of this false perception, some religious people are claiming that the end of the world is nigh (or nye!). Relax, people! Nothing is going to happen, just like nothing happened at the turn of the millennium...

***Mezurashi*** · Sep 25th, 2005 5:28 PM

a metaphor for B. Nye's statement is available in an article I read today (couldn't find the article I read but here's a related one with lots of details - http://slate.msn.com/id/2124160/?nav/navoa/ ) about the media hyping up the fear about Crystal Meth.

The media hype is doing two things. First it spreads DISINFORMATION which is bad, bad, bad. Second, this incorrect, erronous and falsified info is told to teens, who later discover they were lied to by their parents and the media, and it is any wonder late-teens don't trust anything the news or their parents say? After all, they've already been lied to for years.

The point I'm making is that there is a difference between making people AWARE of a situation/problem/crisis and creating HYSTERIA in order to sell more newspapers/land wars in Asia/tax hikes, etc.

Yes, something might be bad, but if someone points to it and screams, "It's Pure EVIL!" are you going to follow suit? Or might you just for a moment take a quick peek to see if it really Is evil or if it's just an old Smurf doll?

***Philosopher Foelhe*** · Sep 25th, 2005 6:01 PM

Yeah, this is one of the reasons I don't actually watch the news. I really try to keep track of what's happening in the world, but the few times I've really sat down and started studying crime rates and whatnot, I eventually got the feeling the average person would gladly shoot me in the back of the head for ten bucks and a cup of coffee. Not exactly a realistic picture of the world.

***VegasRonin*** · Sep 25th, 2005 6:28 PM

a metaphor for B. Nye's statement is available in an article I read today (couldn't find the article I read but here's a related one with lots of details - http://slate.msn.com/id/2124160/?nav/navoa/ ) about the media hyping up the fear about Crystal Meth.

This is probably based on your locale. I can tell you that here in Vegas Meth use is rampant! I've seen some good intelligent people lose everything behind this stuff. Its garbage, and it turns the users into garbage. A couple of days ago, some nut job drove his mother's car onto a crowded sidewalk, and ran over 12 people, ON PURPOSE! There is no exaggeration when it come to using Meth!

***Philosopher Foelhe*** · Sep 25th, 2005 6:37 PM

Well, yeah, Meth is dangerous. So are nuclear weapons, but no one's telling me to watch the next door neighbors' packages for plutonium shipments.

I think we all agree that at the core, reporters and newscasters tell the truth (Meth is bad, kids disappear). But it becomes a problem when we think that kids are grabbed off the street at every crosswalk, and everyone takes Meth in their coffee before work.

The frustrating thing is that it seems like everyone has two choices - they can be totally uninformed, or ridiculously paranoid. You can try to walk that line, but every day it gets harder.