Demonic Possession Real or Not???

**evilgenius9613** · Feb 28th, 2006 11:38 AM

This is my first time writing here, just completed my "membership" even though I've been visiting this sight for months. The reason I'm writing (besides meeting friends) is I want to get peoples opinion on possession, whether it be from ghosts or demons or both, or whatever. I mean, the stories, the movies, is all this stuff real? Do demons really try to control our minds and souls? Is there a way to fight them off? And what does one do if they believe they are some how being attacked by demons? Is a ghost that haunts your house able to possess you, or could that ghost have brought more to the surface? No one on here really talks about demonology, and whether possession is real....sure there was that quick snippet about stuff when Emily Rose hit the theater, but thats it... all of you may hold the key to battling demons...so please...share, debate, discuss.... i know, crappy intro but I didnt really know what to write...sorry for now...

**Resentedhalo** · Feb 28th, 2006 2:17 PM

Demonic possession is real, I have experienced a person under demonic influences however I can not prove what I saw and my word is all I have. I once witnessed a friend of mine's brother speaking in tongues, being very violent, you may say this is not much as did I! My friend's brother is a small man and not particulary strong, but on this occasion he was being violent towards his sister, I was there with four of my friends, they are strong, well built guys, they pinned him down and with what seemed to be little effort, the "possesed" guy underneath launched them all off and they went flying into the wall. I was absoloutly stunned, either this guy was on some sort of steroids or drug's or he was possesed. I have never witnessed such strength in a person!

Here are a few links about demonic possession....

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/ar...possession.htm

http://paranormal.about.com/od/demonsandexorcism/

Resentedhalo.

**Keeblergiant** · Mar 2nd, 2006 4:06 PM

I've been possessed before. Satan's little minion made me do the hokey-pokey and eat half of my arm.

Here, I have a better link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissoci...ntity_disorder

***liberdave*** · Mar 5th, 2006 8:11 AM

Please, do a little research before posting. It helps keeps things in order... and we don't want things OUT of order now.... do we?

http://www.armageddononline.net/foru...ead.php?t=4169

**Lord_of_Drakons** · Mar 7th, 2006 1:25 AM

It's not that hard at all to possess someone's body.

In fact there is a psychic technique that enables someone to gain complete control over a host.

**Keeblergiant** · Mar 7th, 2006 8:39 PM

It's not that hard at all to possess someone's body.

In fact there is a psychic technique that enables someone to gain complete control over a host.

Yeah, I call that "technique" boobs.

***Godsgifttomankind*** · Mar 9th, 2006 9:54 AM

Hello Evilgenius and thank-you for the question,

The whole question of demons and demonic possession is a reality but the challenge in understanding is what is being spoken about.

We all have Ghosts that haunt us and skeletons in the closet.

Demons are actions that act contrary to the will of God, they are not some mystical creature from fables and the imaginations of men.

They are the darkerside of ourselves that as we mature we learn to overcome, the darker our life experience the greater the challenge to overcome our own nature.

When we are raised in a loving and nurturing environment, we are shown how to act in accordance to the nature of God, and thereby live happy and healthy lives. An environment that promotes anger, hostility and violence creates within the inhabitants depression, worthlessness and self loathing and the desire to escape.

These are the demons that are being spoken of, and the only way to remove these demons is to replace them with the knowledge of true self worth. The understanding of your unique and noble purpose, that for which you were created. You were created from the inmost heart of God, to show forth all the wondrous qualities from which you were created and to come to terms with the very essence of your being, for you are an emanation of God.

It is your choice as to which life you want to live but first you must search within to understand who it is that you really are and remove all the guilt and discreditation of character that has been heaped upon you, that keeps you from being. The word God spoke 'BE' was your conception, the word man spoke was your deception, arise from that deception and be that which God created.

When you see and understand who you are, then you will surely see the Loving face of our creator and then all the deceptive images of God will have vanished from before you.

***Raptor Witness*** · Mar 15th, 2006 5:49 PM

According to our resident U.S. authority on possession, Pat Robertson, all people of Islamic faith are [DEMONIC.]

I'm only laughing because he clearly hasn't read Exe. 38. NIV "be ready and be at MY disposal." Who do you think the MY is Pat??? It's sure not the Devil.

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**Havoc Angel** · Mar 16th, 2006 2:33 AM

The only 'demons' you can get possessed from are your primal instinkts. Fear, Anger and Greed can do the weirdest things with your mind when they gain control over your reason.

**Wastelandwarrior** · Mar 18th, 2006 2:33 AM

Originally Posted by evilgenius9613

This is my first time writing here, just completed my "membership" even though I've been visiting this sight for months. The reason I'm writing (besides meeting friends) is I want to get peoples opinion on possession, whether it be from ghosts or demons or both, or whatever. I mean, the stories, the movies, is all this stuff real? Do demons really try to control our minds and souls? Is there a way to fight them off? And what does one do if they believe they are some how being attacked by demons? Is a ghost that haunts your house able to possess you, or could that ghost have brought more to the surface? No one on here really talks about demonology, and whether possession is real....sure there was that quick snippet about stuff when Emily Rose hit the theater, but thats it... all of you may hold the key to battling demons...so please...share, debate, discuss.... i know, crappy intro but I didnt really know what to write...sorry for now...

ok ...
first of all i have no proof but demonic possetions are bull shit
like for instance ...
babtists.... have u seen these people in there churches all "ACTING" like they are possesed ... and then the preacher comes around and touches them on the head and they fall over as if something left there body...
LOL!
i mean really ... they are fooling no one but them selfs
its funny to watch though because its like pure pressure
if you claim to be part of this religion and every one else in the church is doing this you will feel obligated to do it too....
i just find it funny as fuck...
and as for whoevers little brother was speeking in toungs ....
how do u know it was a language do you know what latin or what ever the fuck it is sounds like ? ... he could have just been starving for attention
or mabie he has scitzophrenia or asspergers

**Triton** · Mar 18th, 2006 7:41 AM

OH demons truly can possess you. There are many kinds of demons. Mine was/ is called SPIRITS demon, Coming out of Vodka realm. People say i was acting odd and talking all weird alien and demonic tongues after vodka demon had taken over me. Usually i don´t remember anything afterwards of this ghastly possession .

***jinxz*** · Mar 20th, 2006 10:18 AM

undefinedWhat do you suppose demons are? Do you take the Christian theological perspective that they are fallen angels? Do you prefer the more psychological perspective, whereby they are representations of Jungian archetypes or our own darkest and most destructive impulses? Do you suppose that they are just one classification of myriad spiritual (read, "nonmaterial") beings that happen to be the most hostile or predatory towards humans? Or perhaps are they the ghosts of wicked people?
Speculation as to what demons actually are is as varied as the number of cultures (pretty much all?) that have developed a demonology, and even as varied as the number of individuals that have taken a stab at explaining them. What are more or less consistent over all accounts are the sorts of things demons are alleged to do. By now the most famous demonic pastime is possession, where the demon (or demons) take control of a human being and manipulate them into doing the demon's will (I've also read of instances of animals being possessed, a notable example being the herd of swine in the gospels). At other times demons are accused of a more subtle infiltration of our minds; take for instance the early Christian conception of demons as beings that have bodies of air that enter the mind and induce negative thoughts and emotions. When demons succeed in bending our thoughts to self-destructive or other sinful acts, they are said to "obsess" the person. Yet another form of demonic activity described in many traditions are when demons physically or psychically attack people - which can take the form of what some might call poltergeist activity in the former, and "hagging" or "nightmares" in the latter.
When we ask the question of why an entity would do these things we come back to the conundrum of what exactly demons are. Is their motivation to lead us away from god or to damnation? Is it just to satisfy some sick sense of humor? Are we simply like prey to them? Or are we just crazy?
Anyway, my point is, only when you decide what you think demons are can you determine what would be appropriate to do about them.

**ChosenOne** · Apr 17th, 2006 11:08 AM

As a Demonologist, I can say that YES demonic possession is absolutely real. It's spoken of in the Scriptures and it's still happening today. Demons are fallen angels of the Cherubic Order of Angels. There's many reasons why they may chose a particular person to harrass and actually, three stages of possession. Full body possession is the rarest. I recently wrote an article for The Night Watchman Chronicles on Demons and Possession that hopefully will answer a lot of your questions on the subject. Their next issue is all about the subject of Possession. You can check it out at www.nightwatchmanchronicles.com

***Raptor Witness*** · Apr 17th, 2006 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Havoc Angel

The only 'demons' you can get possessed from are your primal instinkts. Fear, Anger and Greed can do the weirdest things with your mind when they gain control over your reason.

WELL said Havoc. The U.S. Government even likes to play off this human weakness, when they can, via their counter-intelligence units designed to keep the naysayers quiet, with respect to U.S. world domination of other peoples, and the Heavenly crime of being the worlds largest exporter of instruments of violence. Homeland hates it if you demonstrate any real spiritual ability or power, especially if you are in opposition to this Administration's dangerous policies. :pyth:

However, the name of Jesus can put a stop to any and all of these obstacles. He didn't save Himself on the cross, so He could obtain the very power needed to protect US. If you're doing God's will, there is nothing you cannot put beneath your feet, save the thorn in the side. God is just waiting to show you His power and give you courage. All you have to do is ask, whether THE OBSTACLES be of man, spirit induced man, or the spirits of perdition themselves. You'll get harrassed, but who cares. That's how you know you're doing God's will!

**failed_christian** · Apr 23rd, 2006 10:56 PM

You know, it's hard to say. I believe in these spirits. I suppose it is possible. I'm not a christian but I do believe one can be consumed by something more evil than in a mortal realm.

***Raptor Witness*** · Apr 24th, 2006 12:57 AM

The real power comes from the cross, because it demonstrates the sacrafice of human will to God.

Evil is all about consumption of the senses. To deny the self, is to be rewarded with all manner of real power, because power is perfected through weakness.

The Creator has much more power than the created. The Judge, much more power than the prosecutor.

Demons were ALL defeated on the cross. Once you're paid for, you needn't fear this.

**joeblogs** · May 12th, 2006 9:14 PM

Demonic possession, well, I think its definitely a possibilty, especially when there is evidence to prove its existence........check out the book "Hostage to the Devil", written by Martin Malachi, and also http://doveministries.com/usa/frame....m/usa/free.htm the video "Out of Darkness" tells of a familys experience with this ( the video starts of with an exorcism, very quick, and dramatic, and does not in the least look fake).

**autryn2** · May 18th, 2006 4:49 PM

Yes, posession extists....

From Matthew Chapter 12: (Jesus speaking) 43"When an evil[f] spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.' When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first.
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I have never seen demonic posession, but I HAVE seen a demon (in person so I KNOW demons exist):

I was 9 years old. My 1st cousin (also 9) had come to my house for the day, and we decided to hunt birds (with my BB gun) behind the local baseball field. Baseball was over for the summer, and it was about 3:30 on a saturday evening. The area we were hunting in was typical deciduous forest with one exception: there was an abundance of tall privet hedge (10-12 ft tall) and a pretty good bit of birds there too (thrush, robins, mockingbirds, bluejays). There was a path from the outfield fence into the woods and we took it down the hill ... hunted awhile... shot a few times but no game. On the way back we both stopped at the same time... about 20-25 yards from a giant Virginia pine and both noticed what I thought was a small fire on the left side of the trail (although there wasn't one on the way down +/- 45 minutes before). What I saw was a small fire (18 inches in diameter, lined with grey stones, and flames about 1 foot high - not a surging fire but lazy). Above the fire was white and grey and black smoke which, with no wind, drifted upward. Eventually, I was shocked to realize that the smoke didn't continue upwards, but stayed within an invisiible barrier about 3 feet in diameter and about 8 to 10 feet high. The smoke 'waved' back and forth slowly and, because the sun was somewhat lower on the horizon, the sun shined through the 'thing' as the smoke moved... first in one place, then another. Neither of us spoke for 2 or 3 minutes. We BOTH KNEW something else was there... not a 'something' but a 'someone'. I also noticed after a minute, that at the top of the smoke there was an area at the top (where a head should be) that wasn't moving but was 'solid' smoke. It was shaped in the form of a wolf or dogs head (german shepard-like) but only the top of the head (ears and stuff) was discernable. The eyes were just the empty sockets with white in them. The 'thing' was looking over our heads into the horizon (we were below the demon in elevation maybe 15 feet). When my 1st cousin finally (after about 2 or 3 minutes) said "what is THAT???!!!??", the thing's coutenence changed... it was startled and whirled (as it were) and looked upon us with the most anger I've ever witnessed. I FELT his anger and rage (sharp, intense stare with brows down). The smoke, which was moving lazily, instantly began to move violently isn the same space it had been in only it was moving so fast that it made a metallic 'shhshhshhshhshhshh' sound. All I remember after that was me and my cousin running through the privet. I was slapping it out of the way with my arms. I lost my BB gun, got scratches all over my face and arms, and NEVER went back. Talking with my cousin, he described IDENTICALLY what he saw as the same thing I just described to you.

Believe what you want but it was no ordinary fire and it was no overactive imaginations of 2 - 9 yr olds....

**Wednesday** · May 18th, 2006 9:04 PM

Evil is a choice, Love is an action.

**Fut004** · May 24th, 2006 1:55 PM

First of all, I don't think it's fair to quote the Bible and such as "proof" for Demonic Possesion. It's somewhat of a Biased view on things.

I've never witnessed anything close to this before.
The most I "know" on this subject comes from various websites and The Learning Channel/Discovery Channel. They've shown enough strange things during their programs to really make me wonder about this.

ChosenOne, what exactly does a Demonologist do in todays day in age?

***jinxz*** · May 25th, 2006 12:58 PM

I don't think there are many (if any) accredited schools out there that award degrees in demonology as such, so pretty much anyone who has an amateur interest in the subject can claim the title. I don't know of any legal or professional organizations that would stop them from doing so (as is the case with lawyers or doctors).
Now in Chosenone's case, she also labels herself a paranormal investigator, and from what I can tell from her other posts she probably believes that most paranormal activity is caused by either angels or demons. So I think she may consider herself a demonologist in more than just a scholarly sense. Rather than being a demonologist that just studies folklore, she would be the kind who also claims to study actual activity of demons.
I'm not trying to be presumptuous in answering for her; I just don't think she comes around here anymore so this might be the only answer you get.

**autryn2** · May 25th, 2006 2:41 PM

Fut004 wrote: "First of all, I don't think it's fair to quote the Bible and such as "proof" for Demonic Possesion. It's somewhat of a Biased view on things."
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Well, then give us a reference that YOU consider TRUTH, rather than either fiction or opinion. I am unaware of another source for factual information. Course, I accept the Bible as truth... as well as the evidence from my own eyes.

Jesus spoke of demons and the Gospel gives many accounts of Him exorcising them from people. If you believe in the Bible as truth, then it follows that you believe in demons...

Although now I don't fear them (like when I was 9). We all have the God-given gift of FREE WILL. WE decide what path we will take and whether it will be in the dark or in the light. A demon cannot posess an unwilling spirit.

***liberdave*** · May 25th, 2006 10:58 PM

A lot of Demonology comes from this source. You can read the whole thing here (Scroll down to the bottom of the page to change pages, also to view each seal, click on the Egyptian-looking eye.) Have fun kids, and remember to post any results you obtain!

**Fut004** · May 26th, 2006 8:58 AM

Originally Posted by autryn2

Well, then give us a reference that YOU consider TRUTH, rather than either fiction or opinion. I am unaware of another source for factual information. Course, I accept the Bible as truth... as well as the evidence from my own eyes.

Jesus spoke of demons and the Gospel gives many accounts of Him exorcising them from people. If you believe in the Bible as truth, then it follows that you believe in demons...

Look, I'm not trying to get into a whole Religious debate here, all I was saying is that using the Bible to "prove" something like this makes no sense. It's like defining a word by using that word in the definition.

As I said, I've never seen anything like this before, so I'm on the fence as to whether it's fact or not. I've seen various TV specials on the subject, and they were more scientific than religious while analysing those who were "possessed". I tend to believe that more than people saying "Jesus says it's true".

liberdave,
Thanks for those links. Is there anything Wikipedia can't do? hahah.
I started browsing those sites, but I'll have to come back to them later when I have more time... Strange stuff though.

**autryn2** · May 30th, 2006 10:36 AM

Fut004:

I'm not trying to argue either... I'm simply unaware of a reference other than the Bible that is a historic account rather than fiction that mentions demonic posession.

I guess there are more recent stories written and submitted as truth (just like my story above). You will, however, have to put faith in them to believe their account (just like the Bible).

:~)

Thats the thing with an account... I KNOW my story is real but anyone who reads it is probably full of doubt. If I was just an internet jerk that likes to make up stories and sell them as fact, there's no way for the reader to tell...

It all brings us back to faith. We all get to CHOOSE what we believe.