Set the record straight

[OCsupertones]

Hey what's up everyone...It seems I kind of got "cought". Yes, it is true, Mr2 and OC are both me. I think I just started off wrong here on the board so I wanted to start fresh. I kind of learned something from the first time, AND the second time. The first time I started posting here...I went about it all the wrong way. I did the typical brainwashed christian thing. Even though I now consider myself more educated in evolution and what science has to offer...I truly think my original stance on the answers to life are still correct. Anyways, even as "OC" I think I went about stuff a little wrong too. Where I am at now is that I realize that even though I may seem to be outnumbered...I very well might not be. AND, even if I were..Ive learned to look at things from a third person view...What do the people who just read this stuff but dont post think? You know there are at least several new people who have never been to this forum before, but don't post everyday. That's why from now on...Im kind of going to post the way a real christian should. Anywho, thought I would just come clean...Im actually surprised no one really thought of it...I mean, mr2 kind of just dissapeared...Then the next couple of days, poof, OC is here and I still talk the same way, just not as immature and a little more polite. Anyways, hope you guys understand and don't outcast me to the desert :/...

[donniedarko]

No problem buddy, thanks for coming clean to us.

[DontBeAfraid]

...Im actually surprised no one really thought of it...

I reported you.
congratz on comoing clean are in order though.

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

Im actually surprised no one really thought of it

But you guys are all the same. You say the EXACT same HANDFUL of things. You all worship Hovind. You ignore overwhelming evidence. You NEVER post evidence in your favour. YOU JUST SAY STUFF. So when you really think about it, you shouldn't be surprised at all. All sheep look the same to me...

mr2 kind of just dissapeared

Yeah, but that happens here all the time. Young-earth creationists come and go like bowel movements. Once they realize that they cannot brainwash the intelligent posters on this forum, they leave and are never heard from again...

[Nasik]

What do the people who just read this stuff but dont post think? You:/...

I’ll tell you what I see.

Bullying and duplicity in moderation.

I see many helpful comments from the moderators concerning your dual identity yet I see that lengthy, hostile posts replete with abusive and offensive language seems to elicit little comment.

I see clear double-standards; if you are religious, particularly a “crazy-Christian” evidently, you cannot misspell a word, cannot make a grammatical mistake, cannot voice your opinion (because it seems if you are unable to prove the existence of God, evidently you have no business posting in the “religious” forum) and cannot make any generalizations.

In contrast, if you are not religious, the rules employed are somewhat different - you are entitled to hurl insults, swear and heap abuse. That you cannot necessarily prove each specific point, or that your grammar or spelling is not top drawer fails to attract any serious interest.

The only reason I can see “anti-religious” people hijack these threads is one thing – you are an easy target and bullying types prefer easy targets.

[DontBeAfraid]

OC makes a habit of calling out the non religious types. If I make serious gramatical errors please correct me. I hate looking like an idiot. I dont believe I pick on the religious types, just their ideas. Im rather friendly with the peeps who deserve it and rather hostile with the peeps who deserve THAT. For the most part you have stayed off my radar because you dont usually call me out like this.

OC is lucky this forum isnt hard about people posting under multiple handles. He clearly pretended to be more than one person which is rarely tolerated; however he did fess up(after he was caught) which really does deserve some gz's.

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

I pretty much pick on young-earth creationists. Sure, sometimes it spills over into broader subjects, but I primarily pick on the YEC's because they have got to be the most GULLIBLE people on the planet. I don't have a problem with religion in certain individuals who use it for good. I've got a friend who's a DIEHARD Christian and she's a great person and I've got a good friend who is Hindu. But they don't enter the realm of stupidity that is the worshipping of Dr.Dino. Man, it is a sad state of affairs when people actually consider Hovind to be an evolution expert. Sad sad sad...

[Raptor Witness]

This is one of the coolest forums I've ever been on. Not too religious, but enough so you can find both sides of non religious and religious arguments. I'm impressed that OC would come clean. Most people wouldn't say anything or just deny it forever.

Happiness are the folks who try and "set the record straight."

[Jupiter]

So it was the same person all along. B.Nye, usual bold correct insights as you frequently do!

You weren't really trying to con anyone, so it's just interesting - that sort of multi-thread personality thing can't be worked long-term I expect.

[Nasik]

Dear DBA,

Re: Request for Grammatical Monitoring

I am writing in response to your request to monitor your posts for any “serious gramatical [sic] errors." I am prepared to offer my services in this regard for a period of one week, where I will randomly sample your posts for any grammatical shortcomings on your undertaking that once the exercise is completed you will reassess the principle that grammatical errors form a legitimate basis for attacking the position or intelligence of a poster.

It should be understood that this arrangement is not quid pro quo, in other words, I am not requesting reciprocal services as I do not judge the quality of a post by such errors nor do I use such errors to support my argument(s).

Allow me, in good spirit, to provide an example of my services by assisting you with your recent post, as captioned below:

OC makes [has] a habit of calling out the non[-]religious types. If I make serious gramatical[grammatical] errors please correct me. I hate looking like an idiot. I dont [don’t] believe I pick on the religious types,[;] just their ideas. Im [I’m] rather friendly with the peeps who deserve it and rather hostile with the peeps who deserve THAT [it]. For the most part you have stayed off my radar because you dont [don’t] usually call me out like this.

OC is lucky this forum isnt [isn’t] hard about [strict on] people posting under multiple handles. He clearly pretended to be more than one person[,] which is rarely tolerated;[.] [H]however he did fess up [space] (after he was caught)[,] which really does deserve some gz's.

Please advise by return if you wish to employ my services in this regard.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
F.O.

[DontBeAfraid]

Please continue.

I don't use a posters grammar as a counter-argument. I dont use a posters poor grammar to reinforce any points I might be making. I just hate to see really EFF'd up grammar.

I also dont believe leaving out ' is a serious error.

[Nasik]

Very well.

I will shadow some randomly sampled posts and should I find "serious" errors, I will advise you of same promptly.

I take exception to your claim that you have not employed grammatical flaws as a basis for your arguments. Notwithstanding, am I to assume by your answer that only the most grevious of infractions warrant censure by you? If so, then please define the parameters for such infractions. For example, do errors such as "your" as opposed to "you're" or "there" rather than "their" justify condemnation while commas missing in action are acceptable? Also please explain why the standards are regimently enforced against OC and not others.

To be honest, I'm tired of this game. My point here is not to be the "grammar-police" my point is to highlight a little hyprocrisy and to serve you a bit of the dish that you give others.

Frankly, I think your posts are intelligent and I also think you have a good sense of humor.

I know that Bill is a forum bully, but strangely, a likeable one.

I just like sticking up for the underdog and if you are going to attack someone on their grammar then you should ensure that your own grammar is perfect otherwise a$$holes like myself will jump down your throat.

[DontBeAfraid]

I point out OC's errors because they get on my nerves and I would rather he didnt look like an idiot. I dont point them out to prove that whatever point he is trying to make is wrong. His grammar is not used against his arguments by myself. I address his grammar seperate from my attacks on his position.

Please let me know about commas and word misuse and anything that really bugs you. The ' , is not a huge concern to me because I know where they go, I just leave them out. If I forget a comma it can totally change the meaning of what I am posting so please point those out "religiously".

[Nasik]

No offense, but I'm not particularly interested in doing that. I really could care less about anyone's grammar - it doesn't prevent me from absorbing the context of the message.

I think you understand plainly the point I was making.

[DontBeAfraid]

You figured that I was pointing out grammar errors to be an asshole. You thought you could turn it around on me. However, if I am continually making errors that get on your nerves then please point them out to me because I do appreciate(sp) it.